Kayra 1.1

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderator: Ras

DrEinstein
Posts: 75
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:50 pm
Full name: Albert Einstein

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by DrEinstein »

AlexChess wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:27 pm
DrEinstein wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:19 pm
I have just forked SF and modified it a bit. Working name is StockfishXXXXXX and XXXXXX is private. Depending on its additional settings, it plays exactly like SFdev or completely different from all derivatives, with less than 900 Elo if necessary. :lol:
So, despite your nick you are nobody. Don't fill this Mehmet topic with garbage, go to work.
Alex I agree, this thread is already full of garbage. So please stop your work and I will do the same :lol:
DrEinstein
Posts: 75
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:50 pm
Full name: Albert Einstein

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by DrEinstein »

Ah, forgot to say, my Noname engine is already 90 Elo stronger than your ProteusChessSF. Haha :P
DrEinstein
Posts: 75
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:50 pm
Full name: Albert Einstein

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by DrEinstein »

Final post in this thread about the final name of my upcoming great engine:
Noname v1.0

Bye bye
User avatar
AlexChess
Posts: 1562
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:06 am
Full name: Alex Morales

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by AlexChess »

DrEinstein wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:16 pm Final post in this thread about the final name of my upcoming great engine:
Noname v1.0

Bye bye
Obviously ProteusChessSF is so strong. It's latest Stockfish-dev with some badly altered values by me on psqt that cause blunders, to experiment. So I will not release it until it be will of some interest for others (I'm studying Stockfish code and use my Superblitz to check results). Do you care?
The Stockfish project builds on a thriving community of enthusiasts (thanks everybody!) that contribute their expertise, time, and resources to build a free and open-source chess engine that is robust, widely available, and very strong. We invite our chess fans to join the fishtest testing framework and programmers to contribute to the project.
Use your brain to do something interesting, instead of annoying others.
Chess engines and dedicated chess computers fan since 1981 :D macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.
ProteusSF Dev Forum
ChickenLogic
Posts: 154
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:23 am
Full name: kek w

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by ChickenLogic »

mehmet123 wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:56 pm
AlexChess wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:48 am In 2022 finally I'll begin to develop my own GPLv3 SF derivative that also in Ed's Code of Honor it's allowed... His RebelFish is a must :wink:
I have no doubt that you will develop more powerful chess engine than Kayra.
However, Kayra will not easily lose the title of being the most discussed and criticized chess engine. Also Kayra (private version) is the first chess engine whose tests were banned on a forum :)
Not even remotely true given that Houdini, Rybka and Fat Fritz 1 & 2 exist. Know your place mortal.
mehmet123
Posts: 681
Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:38 pm
Location: Turkey
Full name: Mehmet Karaman

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by mehmet123 »

ChickenLogic wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:50 pm
Not even remotely true given that Houdini, Rybka and Fat Fritz 1 & 2 exist. Know your place mortal.
You are right. But I will push the limits with Kayra 1.2 :)
tcusr
Posts: 325
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:32 pm
Full name: tcusr

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by tcusr »

mehmet123 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:30 pm
ChickenLogic wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:50 pm
Not even remotely true given that Houdini, Rybka and Fat Fritz 1 & 2 exist. Know your place mortal.
You are right. But I will push the limits with Kayra 1.2 :)
what are you going to do? start asking for money? already done
mehmet123
Posts: 681
Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:38 pm
Location: Turkey
Full name: Mehmet Karaman

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by mehmet123 »

tcusr wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:41 pm
what are you going to do? start asking for money? already done
Kayra chess engine will always be free. Some people offered me to make a customized chess engine for money, but I left their messages unanswered.
kranium
Posts: 2129
Joined: Thu May 29, 2008 10:43 am

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by kranium »

Code: Select all

Games Completed = 16384 of 16384 (Avg game length = 14.736 sec)
Settings = Gauntlet/32MB/1000ms+100ms/M 500cp for 6 moves, D 120 moves/EPD:book.epd(31526)
Time = 16236 sec elapsed, 0 sec remaining
 1.  Stockfish_2010122_x64_avx2	8378.5/16384	2751-2378-11255  	(L: m=12 t=0 i=0 a=2366)	(D: r=6236 i=2534 f=637 s=190 a=1658)	(tpm=107.0 d=18.72 nps=1187643)
 2.  Kayra_1.1_x64_avx2       	8005.5/16384	2378-2751-11255  	(L: m=14 t=0 i=0 a=2737)	(D: r=6236 i=2534 f=637 s=190 a=1658)	(tpm=107.0 d=18.56 nps=1247612)

1) Stockfish_2010122_x64_avx2  3404 :  16384 (+2751,=11255,-2378),  51.1 %
   vs.                              :  games (    +,     =,    -),   (%) :   Diff,  SD, CFS (%)
   Kayra_1.1_x64_avx2               :  16384 ( 2751, 11255, 2378),  51.1 :     +8,   2,  100.0

2) Kayra_1.1_x64_avx2          3396 :  16384 (+2378,=11255,-2751),  48.9 %
   vs.                              :  games (    +,     =,    -),   (%) :   Diff,  SD, CFS (%)
   Stockfish_2010122_x64_avx2       :  16384 ( 2378, 11255, 2751),  48.9 :     -8,   2,    0.0
   
error margin +- 1.8 Elo
   

Code: Select all

SF (tpm=107.0 d=18.72 nps=1187643)
K  (tpm=107.0 d=18.56 nps=1247612)
Kayra has lost some of SF's strength, although it would hard to tell at longer TCs.
Looks like search changes, the nps is higher but it's not searching as deeply...
User avatar
AlexChess
Posts: 1562
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:06 am
Full name: Alex Morales

Re: Kayra 1.1

Post by AlexChess »

kranium wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:54 pm

Code: Select all

Games Completed = 16384 of 16384 (Avg game length = 14.736 sec)
Settings = Gauntlet/32MB/1000ms+100ms/M 500cp for 6 moves, D 120 moves/EPD:book.epd(31526)
Time = 16236 sec elapsed, 0 sec remaining
 1.  Stockfish_2010122_x64_avx2	8378.5/16384	2751-2378-11255  	(L: m=12 t=0 i=0 a=2366)	(D: r=6236 i=2534 f=637 s=190 a=1658)	(tpm=107.0 d=18.72 nps=1187643)
 2.  Kayra_1.1_x64_avx2       	8005.5/16384	2378-2751-11255  	(L: m=14 t=0 i=0 a=2737)	(D: r=6236 i=2534 f=637 s=190 a=1658)	(tpm=107.0 d=18.56 nps=1247612)

1) Stockfish_2010122_x64_avx2  3404 :  16384 (+2751,=11255,-2378),  51.1 %
   vs.                              :  games (    +,     =,    -),   (%) :   Diff,  SD, CFS (%)
   Kayra_1.1_x64_avx2               :  16384 ( 2751, 11255, 2378),  51.1 :     +8,   2,  100.0

2) Kayra_1.1_x64_avx2          3396 :  16384 (+2378,=11255,-2751),  48.9 %
   vs.                              :  games (    +,     =,    -),   (%) :   Diff,  SD, CFS (%)
   Stockfish_2010122_x64_avx2       :  16384 ( 2378, 11255, 2751),  48.9 :     -8,   2,    0.0
   
error margin +- 1.8 Elo
   

Code: Select all

SF (tpm=107.0 d=18.72 nps=1187643)
K  (tpm=107.0 d=18.56 nps=1247612)
Kayra has lost some of SF's strength, although it would hard to tell at longer TCs.
Looks like search changes, the nps is higher but it's not searching as deeply...
How can you play so many games so quickly?? :D (retoric question)

I manage to play only +-130 games in a day with Windows 11 ARM64 under mac M1... :(

I must really buy a PC with 12 cores, hyper threading and BM2 and AVX2 support (I don't want to use my main work PC Ryzen 9 3900x)
Chess engines and dedicated chess computers fan since 1981 :D macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.
ProteusSF Dev Forum