CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Steve B wrote: it would be interesting to know BL's Eval Score after its 10th move and then perhaps every 10th move after that..
if you dont feel that is giving away too much info of course

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Steve
Quite OK to give that info - for 10.c5, BigLion's eval was +0.19
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Spock wrote:
Steve B wrote: it would be interesting to know BL's Eval Score after its 10th move and then perhaps every 10th move after that..
if you dont feel that is giving away too much info of course

Crossroads Regards
Steve
Quite OK to give that info - for 10.c5, BigLion's eval was +0.19
Thanks Ray
is that the score for White or Black?
Dedicated computers generally show the score for the computer so it would show a -.19 if it thought it was behind

Steve
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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That is from white's perspective
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Steve B wrote:
Spock wrote:
Steve B wrote: it would be interesting to know BL's Eval Score after its 10th move and then perhaps every 10th move after that..
if you dont feel that is giving away too much info of course

Crossroads Regards
Steve
Quite OK to give that info - for 10.c5, BigLion's eval was +0.19
Thanks Ray
is that the score for White or Black?
Dedicated computers generally show the score for the computer so it would show a -.19 if it thought it was behind

Steve
Wait: it thinks it stands better?
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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playjunior wrote: Wait: it thinks it stands better?
No, it thinks white is better
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:I thank the forum that apparently nobody has used an engine till now against BigLion in this game.
Weak and clueless BigLion is definitely beatable without engine help.

Matthias.
You should not be embarrassed about BigLion, it is doing a decent job, and furthermore it is your own creation

I chose BigLion because I reckoned that without computer help the forum had about a 50/50 chance of victory against it, and the chance of winning is important. Without a reasonable chance of victory, it would have been no fun for the forum and I think people would have lost interest very quickly. So I think it is ideal, and it will be a tough battle. This is no walk in the park for the forum brains

For the record, BigLion is playing on one core of an Intel QX6700 at 2.93Ghz
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Steve B wrote: you should be proud that BL played 10..c5
a good solid move that restrains Whites game
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Steve
I think BigLion's Knight on f6 is "pinned" by our a1+b2 battery and thus weak.
Pawn e7 cannot move either and our battery can last long, though it wastes queen power.

Matthias.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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At this early stage, I think we have

Bc3 - Steve, Tano, Matthias
h3 - Gerold, Graham
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Graham Banks wrote:11.h3 with the following plan in mind - 11....Bh5; 12.g4, Bg6; 13.Ne5 (or Nh4) with f4 to follow.
good plan Graham. B may not go to Bh5. B may go Be6.
In that case White plays e3-e4. Giving White complete
control the 4 middle squares.
h2-h3 drive away the black B and free up the white N and B.

Sending BL back home :) :) :) .

Best.

Gerold.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Spock wrote:That is from white's perspective
Very good. White still has a chance of winning.

Thanks.

Gerold.