five good reasons for the losses of rybka vs. zappa

[bedouin]

You forgot the main reason.
Convekta sponsored the match and they did not have to do it.

Uri

It was supposed to be Rybka taking on Deep Junior but the Junior team did not agree to playing on a local machine, submitting an executable as well as logs after each game. Thus Zappa was brought in to fill the void and it was expected that Zappa would be overpowered easily like the GMs in the handicap matches. If Zappa were to lose in Mexico (like Junior was also expected to lose) then Rybka with its coming GUI/Rybka 3 would get a huge boost.

[Ryan Benitez]

Rybka doing better than Zappa in the rating lists will not prove that Zappa winning this event is a fluk at all. Overall prep and play conditions are a big factor. Test groups will not replicate this.

[Christopher Conkie]

1. Zappa is a clone, oh you didn't know

2. The Zappa team found a way to dumb down Rybka, shame on them

3. Global warning helped Zappa

4. Just luck, anyone can win a few games, right

5. Zappa's team stole alien technology from area 51, yes some one will believe this one.

1.Ruy López
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5.Some Spanish Bishop named...........Ruy López de Segura



Christopher

[Ryan Benitez]

You forgot the main reason.
Convekta sponsored the match and they did not have to do it.

Uri

It was supposed to be Rybka taking on Deep Junior but the Junior team did not agree to playing on a local machine, submitting an executable as well as logs after each game. Thus Zappa was brought in to fill the void and it was expected that Zappa would be overpowered easily like the GMs in the handicap matches. If Zappa were to lose in Mexico (like Junior was also expected to lose) then Rybka with its coming GUI/Rybka 3 would get a huge boost.

That is ridicules, it is the Rybka team that did not agree to the terms of play. If you want to beat the champion you do so on their own grounds. The $100,000 challenge was nothing short of an empty threat made for marketing reasons.

[Christopher Conkie]

You forgot the main reason.
Convekta sponsored the match and they did not have to do it.

Uri

It was supposed to be Rybka taking on Deep Junior but the Junior team did not agree to playing on a local machine, submitting an executable as well as logs after each game. Thus Zappa was brought in to fill the void and it was expected that Zappa would be overpowered easily like the GMs in the handicap matches. If Zappa were to lose in Mexico (like Junior was also expected to lose) then Rybka with its coming GUI/Rybka 3 would get a huge boost.

That is ridicules, it is the Rybka team that did not agree to the terms of play. If you want to beat the champion you do so on their own grounds. The $100,000 challenge was nothing short of an empty threat made for marketing reasons.

Can you connect Ryan?

[bedouin]

That is ridicules, it is the Rybka team that did not agree to the terms of play. If you want to beat the champion you do so on their own grounds. The $100,000 challenge was nothing short of an empty threat made for marketing reasons.

Ridiculous? Fritz should not have played a match with Junior's mismatched hardware hidden in London - this is an oversight from ChessBase GMBH which has gone to great lengths to hide Fritz from all computer competition. Knowing what happened with Kasparov-Deep Blue (and the accusations made) one is not naive enough to put up 100,000 U.S. dollars and swallow that the other side can only play with 16 cores hidden in London and a local 8 core is not good enough.

How would you know that the 16 cores in London is not aided by a GM using another strong engine e.g Rybka to decide moves? Would you have accepted such a match?

[F. Bluemers]

both chesswar and openwar broadcasts are down.

[Christopher Conkie]

both chesswar and openwar broadcasts are down.

Do you know why? Is it that french hardware again?

[Uri Blass]

You forgot the main reason.
Convekta sponsored the match and they did not have to do it.

Uri

It was supposed to be Rybka taking on Deep Junior but the Junior team did not agree to playing on a local machine, submitting an executable as well as logs after each game. Thus Zappa was brought in to fill the void and it was expected that Zappa would be overpowered easily like the GMs in the handicap matches. If Zappa were to lose in Mexico (like Junior was also expected to lose) then Rybka with its coming GUI/Rybka 3 would get a huge boost.

That is ridicules, it is the Rybka team that did not agree to the terms of play. If you want to beat the champion you do so on their own grounds. The $100,000 challenge was nothing short of an empty threat made for marketing reasons.

I do not understand.

The rybka team offered the money and you claim that it is the rybka team that did not agree to the terms of play?

Note that the world computer champion is rybka.
"If you want to beat the champion you do so on their own grounds." means that Junior had to agree to the conditions and the fact that Junior did not agree means that they did not want to play.

Note that the rybka team agreed to local hardware and also could agree to playing by remote computers assuming some steps to prevent cheating.

It was the Junior team that did not like it.

Uri

[F. Bluemers]

both chesswar and openwar broadcasts are down.

Do you know why? Is it that french hardware again?

yes likely
tracert's last line:
10 42 ms 42 ms 44 ms gi1-0-0-51.bas01.lyo.as12876.net [212.129.14.17]

so it halts somewhere in froggyland.
probably 15 meters away from the pond )

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Fonzy