Fritz 11 available

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Mike S.
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Re: Fritz 11 available

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Tony Thomas wrote: I guess they are using that as a back up in case they can no longer make progress.
That idea makes sense, although in that case I would have expected that they would have used that potential already, because not only Rybka but before, also Shredder was stronger than Fritz.

I believe it may have to do with a special technique Fritz uses, making use of the MMX cpu registers (or what's that called?), for the bitboards. That is why alternative "NoMMX" versions of Fritz existed for 6, 7 and maybe also for 8, to run if the user has an old cpu without MMX capability still. I am not an expert of this topic but couldn't that be a reason to not create a 64 bit version?

I am only speculating. - Actually, I can also imagine that they think it just isn't wortwhile yet, to invest developement time in a 64 bit version because they estimate the share of users/buyers is very small still, compared to 32 bit buyers who don't care for such "tech stuff"... IOW. the Chessmaster approach, something like "Enhance/optimize the features 95% are interested in, ignore the features only 5% are interested in."
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Re: Fritz 11 available

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Usually most bitboard engines gain about 30-40 points from using 64bit architecture. Just that alone would put Fritz 10 at 3rd spot in CCRL single cpu section, instead of the current 7th place it is holding. May be Chrilly was wrong and Fritz doesnt gain much from 64bit. Who knows..
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Re: Fritz 11 available

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Marek Soszynski wrote:This appears in the recently printed Chess & Bridge Catalogue 2008 (from the London Chess Centre):
DEEP FRITZ 11 £109.95 (DVD) is the multiprocessor version of Fritz 11... Deep Fritz 11 is at least 50 points stronger than its single-processor counterpart when run on the same hardware.
The price is incorrect as it is in unconverted dollars. It should be £74.95.
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Re: Fritz 11 available

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Spock wrote:
geots wrote:
Spock wrote:Here in the U.K. distributors tell me they expect it on 27th or 28th November, so we have to wait
Chessbase.com shop says it is available from 21 Nov

I was told no Deep Fritz till March. :(
I'm referring to Fritz 11, not Deep Fritz 11
Oops, my mistake. :roll:
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Re: Fritz 11 available

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Marek Soszynski wrote:This appears in the recently printed Chess & Bridge Catalogue 2008 (from the London Chess Centre):
DEEP FRITZ 11 £109.95 (DVD) is the multiprocessor version of Fritz 11... Deep Fritz 11 is at least 50 points stronger than its single-processor counterpart when run on the same hardware.

Total BS of course, it might be correct for multiprocessor hardware.
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Dr.Ex wrote:
Marek Soszynski wrote:This appears in the recently printed Chess & Bridge Catalogue 2008 (from the London Chess Centre):
DEEP FRITZ 11 £109.95 (DVD) is the multiprocessor version of Fritz 11... Deep Fritz 11 is at least 50 points stronger than its single-processor counterpart when run on the same hardware.

Total BS of course, it might be correct for multiprocessor hardware.
That's how it used to be...Not total BS, it would be about 30-40 point stronger.