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Paloma
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Re: Hannibal is on the way ... corected score

Post by Paloma »

Hello Sam,

which was the correct result in Spark vs Hannibal Round 6?

The CCT12 Site http://www.cctchess.com/r6.htm shows 1-0

see also here:

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Cross Table

No  Name            Feder Rtg  1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9  

1.  Thinker,                  14:D 20:W 13:L 15:D 18:D 11:W 22:W  5:D 21:D
2.  Shredder,                 15:W 12:W 21:D 24:D  5:D 13:L 26:W  3:W 20:D
3.  Ikarus,                   16:W 22:W 24:D 13:L 20:L 18:W 27:W  2:L 10:W
4.  Gaviota,                  17:D  7:D 12:W  5:L 22:D 27:L 28:L 25:W  9:L
5.  Hannibal,                 18:W 24:L 10:W  4:W  2:D 20:L  7:W  1:D 28:L
6.  Diep,                     19:W 13:D 17:W 21:L   :    :    :    :    : 
7.  Crafty,                   20:D  4:D 22:W 18:W 24:D 21:D  5:L 15:W 13:L
8.  Dansah,                   21:L 19:W 15:L 27:D 17:D 28:L 12:W 14:D 18:W
9.  DayDreamerX,              22:L 23:W 18:L 12:W 10:D 26:L 11:W 28:L  4:W
10. BertaCCT,                 23:W 21:L  5:L 19:W  9:D 22:L 14:W 27:W  3:L
11. DirtyChess,               24:L 26:D 20:L 16:W 14:W  1:L  9:L 12:W 15:L
12. ButcherX,                 25:W  2:L  4:L  9:L 19:L 16:W  8:L 11:L   :W
13. SjengX,                   26:W  6:D  1:W  3:W 21:D  2:W 20:W 24:D  7:W
14. TinkerFICS,                1:D 17:L 25:W 26:L 11:L 23:W 10:L  8:D 16:W
15. NowX,                      2:L 28:W  8:W  1:D 26:W 24:L 17:D  7:L 11:W
16. ChessPlusPlus,             3:L 25:D 26:L 11:L 27:L 12:L   :W 23:W 14:L
17. Ktulu,                     4:D 14:W  6:L 20:L  8:D 19:W 15:D 22:L 25:L
18. BottheBaron,               5:L 27:W  9:W  7:L  1:D  3:L 19:W 26:L  8:L
19. Telepath,                  6:L  8:L 28:W 10:L 12:W 17:L 18:L   :W 23:W
20. Spark,                     7:D  1:L 11:W 17:W  3:W  5:W 13:L 21:D  2:D
21. Hiarcs,                    8:W 10:W  2:D  6:W 13:D  7:D 24:W 20:D  1:D
22. DeepJunior,                9:W  3:L  7:L 25:W  4:D 10:W  1:L 17:W 24:L
23. AlmondX,                  10:L  9:L 27:L 28:L   :W 14:L 25:L 16:L 19:L
24. Komodo,                   11:W  5:W  3:D  2:D  7:D 15:W 21:L 13:D 22:W
25. JabbaChess,               12:L 16:D 14:L 22:L 28:L   :W 23:W  4:L 17:W
26. DeuteriumCCT,             13:L 11:D 16:W 14:W 15:L  9:W  2:L 18:W 27:D
27. Amyan,                    28:L 18:L 23:W  8:D 16:W  4:W  3:L 10:L 26:D
28. Scorpio,                  27:L 15:L 19:L 23:W 25:W  8:W  4:W  9:W  5:W
shows Hannnibal round6: 20:L (against place 20, Lost)

On Schachwelt Interviev with Edsel
http://www.schach-welt.de/index.php?opt ... Itemid=138
stands 1/2-1/2, (1st diagram) i think this result is correct?

[Event "ICS rated standard match"]
[Site "freechess.org"]
[Date "2010.02.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Spark"]
[Black "Hannibal"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2215"]
[BlackElo "2506"]
[Annotator "29... -0.39"]
[PlyCount "132"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "3000+3"]

1. e4 {this move was unofficial as we forfeited due to late start. The author
of Spark offered to play anyway but td would not allow.} c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4
cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 h5 9. Qd2 Nbd7 10. Nd5
Bxd5 11. exd5 g6 12. Be2 Bg7 13. O-O-O Qc7 14. Kb1 O-O 15. g4 Rfc8 16. Rc1 a5
17. g5 Ne8 18. a4 Nb6 19. Bb5 Nc4 20. Qe2 Nxe3 21. Qxe3 Qd8 22. Nd2 Nc7 23. c4
Na6 24. Rhf1 Nc5 25. Ne4 Rab8 26. Rce1 Rc7 27. Nxc5 Rxc5 28. f4 Qc8 29. fxe5
Bxe5 {-0.39/21 1:02 A great position out of openings. Computers do not
understand how out of play the white bishop is.} 30. Qf3 Qc7 {-0.26/21 2:03}
31. Qe2 Rf8 {-0.19/21 1:58} 32. Rf3 Qd8 {-0.18/23 1:53} 33. Rg1 Qb6 {-0.05/21
1:49} 34. Rd1 Rc7 {+0.01/21 1:45} 35. Ka2 Re7 {+0.02/21 1:37} 36. Rdf1 f6 {+0.
15/21 1:37} 37. gxf6 Rxf6 {+0.07/22 24} 38. R3f2 Qd4 {+0.00/22 1:17} 39. Rg2
Rxf1 {+0.00/22 1:08} 40. Qxf1 Bg7 {+0.05/22 57} 41. Qb1 Re4 {+0.06/23 51} 42.
Qc2 Kh7 {+0.07/22 40} 43. Rd2 Qe5 {+0.16/21 1:21} 44. Rg2 Bf6 {+0.27/22 1:18}
45. Bd7 Kg7 {+0.24/21 1:12} 46. Bc8 b6 {+0.32/21 1:10} 47. Bd7 g5 {+0.35/21 1:
07} 48. Rf2 Qd4 {+0.45/23 54} 49. Bb5 g4 {+0.47/22 41} 50. Rf5 h4 {+0.69/20 51}
51. Rf2 Re3 {+0.78/21 24} 52. Rg2 g3 {+0.72/20 49} 53. Bd7 Rf3 {+0.82/20 33}
54. Bf5 Kh6 {+0.89/20 46} 55. Re2 Rf2 {+0.89/21 21} 56. hxg3 hxg3 {+0.96/22 38}
57. Rxf2 Qxf2 {+1.05/24 1:05} 58. Qxf2 gxf2 {+1.05/28 0.1} 59. Bd3 Kg5 {+1.05/
31 1:42} 60. Bf1 Kf4 {+1.05/30 38} 61. Kb3 Kg3 {+1.05/30 0.1} 62. Kc2 Kh2 {+1.
05/28} 63. Kd1 Bxb2 {+1.05/26 38} 64. Kd2 Bd4 {+1.05/28 42} 65. Kd1 Kg3 {+1.05/
29 35} 66. Ke2 Bg7 {+1.05/28 20 Spark lost connection; game adjourned} *

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Standings

Place Name            Feder Rtg Loc Score Buch.

  1   SjengX,                       7.5    50.0
  2   Hiarcs,                       6.5    49.5
 3-5  Shredder,                     6      48.5
      Komodo,                       6      48.5
      Scorpio,                      6      33.5
 6-8  Spark,                        5.5    48.0
      Thinker,                      5.5    45.0
      Ikarus,                       5.5    43.5
9-12  Crafty,                       5      47.0
      Hannibal,                     5      45.5
      NowX,                         5      45.0
      DeuteriumCCT,                 5      40.0
13-16 DeepJunior,                   4.5    41.0
      Dansah,                       4.5    38.5
      BertaCCT,                     4.5    38.0
      DayDreamerX,                  4.5    33.5
17-19 Amyan,                        4      35.0
      Telepath,                     4      34.5
      TinkerFICS,                   4      32.0
20-24 BottheBaron,                  3.5    42.5
      DirtyChess,                   3.5    40.0
      Ktulu,                        3.5    38.5
      Gaviota,                      3.5    38.0
      JabbaChess,                   3.5    31.0
 25   ButcherX,                     3      35.0
26-27 ChessPlusPlus,                2.5    32.5
      Diep,                         2.5    21.0
 28   AlmondX,                      1      36.0
Therefore must have hannibal 5.5 points :D, and Spark 5.0 point, right?

regards
Herbert
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Re: Hannibal is on the way ... corected score

Post by BubbaTough »

Paloma wrote:Hello Sam,

which was the correct result in Spark vs Hannibal Round 6?

The CCT12 Site http://www.cctchess.com/r6.htm shows 1-0

[Event "ICS rated standard match"]
[Site "freechess.org"]
[Date "2010.02.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Spark"]
[Black "Hannibal"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2215"]
[BlackElo "2506"]
[Annotator "29... -0.39"]
[PlyCount "132"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "3000+3"]

1. e4 {this move was unofficial as we forfeited due to late start. The author
of Spark offered to play anyway but td would not allow.} c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4
cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 h5 9. Qd2 Nbd7 10. Nd5
Bxd5 11. exd5 g6 12. Be2 Bg7 13. O-O-O Qc7 14. Kb1 O-O 15. g4 Rfc8 16. Rc1 a5
17. g5 Ne8 18. a4 Nb6 19. Bb5 Nc4 20. Qe2 Nxe3 21. Qxe3 Qd8 22. Nd2 Nc7 23. c4
Na6 24. Rhf1 Nc5 25. Ne4 Rab8 26. Rce1 Rc7 27. Nxc5 Rxc5 28. f4 Qc8 29. fxe5
Bxe5 {-0.39/21 1:02 A great position out of openings. Computers do not
understand how out of play the white bishop is.} 30. Qf3 Qc7 {-0.26/21 2:03}
31. Qe2 Rf8 {-0.19/21 1:58} 32. Rf3 Qd8 {-0.18/23 1:53} 33. Rg1 Qb6 {-0.05/21
1:49} 34. Rd1 Rc7 {+0.01/21 1:45} 35. Ka2 Re7 {+0.02/21 1:37} 36. Rdf1 f6 {+0.
15/21 1:37} 37. gxf6 Rxf6 {+0.07/22 24} 38. R3f2 Qd4 {+0.00/22 1:17} 39. Rg2
Rxf1 {+0.00/22 1:08} 40. Qxf1 Bg7 {+0.05/22 57} 41. Qb1 Re4 {+0.06/23 51} 42.
Qc2 Kh7 {+0.07/22 40} 43. Rd2 Qe5 {+0.16/21 1:21} 44. Rg2 Bf6 {+0.27/22 1:18}
45. Bd7 Kg7 {+0.24/21 1:12} 46. Bc8 b6 {+0.32/21 1:10} 47. Bd7 g5 {+0.35/21 1:
07} 48. Rf2 Qd4 {+0.45/23 54} 49. Bb5 g4 {+0.47/22 41} 50. Rf5 h4 {+0.69/20 51}
51. Rf2 Re3 {+0.78/21 24} 52. Rg2 g3 {+0.72/20 49} 53. Bd7 Rf3 {+0.82/20 33}
54. Bf5 Kh6 {+0.89/20 46} 55. Re2 Rf2 {+0.89/21 21} 56. hxg3 hxg3 {+0.96/22 38}
57. Rxf2 Qxf2 {+1.05/24 1:05} 58. Qxf2 gxf2 {+1.05/28 0.1} 59. Bd3 Kg5 {+1.05/
31 1:42} 60. Bf1 Kf4 {+1.05/30 38} 61. Kb3 Kg3 {+1.05/30 0.1} 62. Kc2 Kh2 {+1.
05/28} 63. Kd1 Bxb2 {+1.05/26 38} 64. Kd2 Bd4 {+1.05/28 42} 65. Kd1 Kg3 {+1.05/
29 35} 66. Ke2 Bg7 {+1.05/28 20 Spark lost connection; game adjourned} *
Herbert
Hannibal forfeited that round by arriving late. When we did arrive, we agreed with the author of Spark to play an unofficial game, which we terminated when the round was finished so we could start the next games on time. In the end position, Hannibal was a pawn up in an opposite color endgame. I have not really looked at the position to see if the game was won or drawn. Anyway, officially Hannibal forfeited that round, so Spark correctly gets a win and Hannibal a loss. I guess that should be indicated by an F in the cross-table, but its not really a big deal.

As an aside, there is an amusing symmetry between Hannibal's first round (where Baron resigned after the opening due to a bug, and we offered to replay the game) and the round with Spark (where the author agreed to play a time penalty or time reduced game with Hannibal instead of accepting the forfeit). Both results are understandable decisions by the TD since there is a lot of pressure to consistently enforce rules, but I love to see such sportsmanship by the engine authors. There is no money on the line after all, we are all just there to see some good chess :).

-Sam
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Re: Hannibal is on the way ... corected score

Post by Paloma »

oops, now i see the comment on 1.e4 :oops:

However, it's good to known the circumstances.
I was little bit confused.

Thanks
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Re: Hannibal is on the way ... corected score

Post by M ANSARI »

Thanks for the nice interview. Good luck Sam and Edsel !