NAUM 4.2

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David Dahlem
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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Uri Blass wrote:I bought Naum and tried to download the rar file and had problems.
If I click download I only get back to the same email with no download and
If I try to do save target as then it save it as a mail with smaller size and does not save the right file(it seems to save the mail that I get and not the file)

It seems that the problem is not with the programmer because even if I send to my self .rar file I cannot download it.

I did not download .rar file that I got by email in the last months but in the past I had no problem to do it.

I thought that the problem may be with my computer but I tried to download it from a different computer with no success.

I wonder if the problem is with gmail and if people can download .rar file today with gmail.

I found that
I can download .txt file with no problem with gmail so downloading naum as .txt file and renaming it can solve the problem(in case that Alex Naumov send me a renamed naum to .txt that I need to change to .rar) but I wonder if it is possible to change my setting to allow downloading .rar file directly.
I've never had any problem downloading .rar files with gmai. Downloading my Naum 4.2 file went without any trouble. Don't know what might be wrong for you.
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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David Dahlem wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I bought Naum and tried to download the rar file and had problems.
If I click download I only get back to the same email with no download and
If I try to do save target as then it save it as a mail with smaller size and does not save the right file(it seems to save the mail that I get and not the file)

It seems that the problem is not with the programmer because even if I send to my self .rar file I cannot download it.

I did not download .rar file that I got by email in the last months but in the past I had no problem to do it.

I thought that the problem may be with my computer but I tried to download it from a different computer with no success.

I wonder if the problem is with gmail and if people can download .rar file today with gmail.

I found that
I can download .txt file with no problem with gmail so downloading naum as .txt file and renaming it can solve the problem(in case that Alex Naumov send me a renamed naum to .txt that I need to change to .rar) but I wonder if it is possible to change my setting to allow downloading .rar file directly.
I've never had any problem downloading .rar files with gmai. Downloading my Naum 4.2 file went without any trouble. Don't know what might be wrong for you.
As I recall, I was emailing a .exe installer (actually, it was a .jar installer except Windows doesn't let .jar files have administrator privileges, so I used a program that let me make it .exe :P), and gmail was giving me a "you cannot email this kind of file for security reasons" sort of error. It even found the .exe in a .zip file, so my guess is it won't let you download the .rar file because Naum is an executable file. I think you can probably change some setting to let you download it, but I don't think you can email any exe or compressed exe. (I ended up renaming the installer to installername.installer and included instructions in the email to rename the extension to .exe).

Great work on Naum, and good luck implementing those Ippo ideas.... :roll:

Peter
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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alpha123 wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I bought Naum and tried to download the rar file and had problems.
If I click download I only get back to the same email with no download and
If I try to do save target as then it save it as a mail with smaller size and does not save the right file(it seems to save the mail that I get and not the file)

It seems that the problem is not with the programmer because even if I send to my self .rar file I cannot download it.

I did not download .rar file that I got by email in the last months but in the past I had no problem to do it.

I thought that the problem may be with my computer but I tried to download it from a different computer with no success.

I wonder if the problem is with gmail and if people can download .rar file today with gmail.

I found that
I can download .txt file with no problem with gmail so downloading naum as .txt file and renaming it can solve the problem(in case that Alex Naumov send me a renamed naum to .txt that I need to change to .rar) but I wonder if it is possible to change my setting to allow downloading .rar file directly.
I've never had any problem downloading .rar files with gmai. Downloading my Naum 4.2 file went without any trouble. Don't know what might be wrong for you.
As I recall, I was emailing a .exe installer (actually, it was a .jar installer except Windows doesn't let .jar files have administrator privileges, so I used a program that let me make it .exe :P), and gmail was giving me a "you cannot email this kind of file for security reasons" sort of error. It even found the .exe in a .zip file, so my guess is it won't let you download the .rar file because Naum is an executable file. I think you can probably change some setting to let you download it, but I don't think you can email any exe or compressed exe. (I ended up renaming the installer to installername.installer and included instructions in the email to rename the extension to .exe).

Great work on Naum, and good luck implementing those Ippo ideas.... :roll:

Peter
It's odd, gmail will not allow you to send a zipped .exe file, but you can send a .rar file with a .exe included. I had no problem download Naum in a .rar file, so Uri must have some other problem.
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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Werner wrote:Hi,
I think this is the first match Rybka 3 looses ever in our tests for CEGT 40/20:

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1   Naum 4.2 x64 4CPU  +16/-9/=25 57.00%   28.5/50
2   Rybka 3 x64 4CPU   +9/-16/=25 43.00%   21.5/50
and now the opposite result - here I used not 25 opening positions but the same (short) opening book for both engines:

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1   Rybka 3 x64 2CPU   +18/-8/=24 60.00%   30.0/50
2   Naum 4.2 x64 4CPU  +8/-18/=24 40.00%   20.0/50
here you see: not 50 but 500 or more games against many different engines are necessary to rate an engine.
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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David Dahlem wrote:
alpha123 wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I bought Naum and tried to download the rar file and had problems.
If I click download I only get back to the same email with no download and
If I try to do save target as then it save it as a mail with smaller size and does not save the right file(it seems to save the mail that I get and not the file)

It seems that the problem is not with the programmer because even if I send to my self .rar file I cannot download it.

I did not download .rar file that I got by email in the last months but in the past I had no problem to do it.

I thought that the problem may be with my computer but I tried to download it from a different computer with no success.

I wonder if the problem is with gmail and if people can download .rar file today with gmail.

I found that
I can download .txt file with no problem with gmail so downloading naum as .txt file and renaming it can solve the problem(in case that Alex Naumov send me a renamed naum to .txt that I need to change to .rar) but I wonder if it is possible to change my setting to allow downloading .rar file directly.
I've never had any problem downloading .rar files with gmai. Downloading my Naum 4.2 file went without any trouble. Don't know what might be wrong for you.
As I recall, I was emailing a .exe installer (actually, it was a .jar installer except Windows doesn't let .jar files have administrator privileges, so I used a program that let me make it .exe :P), and gmail was giving me a "you cannot email this kind of file for security reasons" sort of error. It even found the .exe in a .zip file, so my guess is it won't let you download the .rar file because Naum is an executable file. I think you can probably change some setting to let you download it, but I don't think you can email any exe or compressed exe. (I ended up renaming the installer to installername.installer and included instructions in the email to rename the extension to .exe).

Great work on Naum, and good luck implementing those Ippo ideas.... :roll:

Peter
It's odd, gmail will not allow you to send a zipped .exe file, but you can send a .rar file with a .exe included. I had no problem download Naum in a .rar file, so Uri must have some other problem.
I do not know what is the problem but I tried downloading from more than one computer with no success.

If I send myself .rar file I cannot download it but if I change the name to .txt and send the same file I have no problem.


For some reason when I click on download file the computer shows me loading uriblass@gmail.com and I get to the same email with no download.

When I send myself .txt file I have the options view download and open as a google document and all work

When I send myself .rar file I have only the option download that does not work.

Uri
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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David Dahlem wrote:
alpha123 wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I bought Naum and tried to download the rar file and had problems.
If I click download I only get back to the same email with no download and
If I try to do save target as then it save it as a mail with smaller size and does not save the right file(it seems to save the mail that I get and not the file)

It seems that the problem is not with the programmer because even if I send to my self .rar file I cannot download it.

I did not download .rar file that I got by email in the last months but in the past I had no problem to do it.

I thought that the problem may be with my computer but I tried to download it from a different computer with no success.

I wonder if the problem is with gmail and if people can download .rar file today with gmail.

I found that
I can download .txt file with no problem with gmail so downloading naum as .txt file and renaming it can solve the problem(in case that Alex Naumov send me a renamed naum to .txt that I need to change to .rar) but I wonder if it is possible to change my setting to allow downloading .rar file directly.
I've never had any problem downloading .rar files with gmai. Downloading my Naum 4.2 file went without any trouble. Don't know what might be wrong for you.
As I recall, I was emailing a .exe installer (actually, it was a .jar installer except Windows doesn't let .jar files have administrator privileges, so I used a program that let me make it .exe :P), and gmail was giving me a "you cannot email this kind of file for security reasons" sort of error. It even found the .exe in a .zip file, so my guess is it won't let you download the .rar file because Naum is an executable file. I think you can probably change some setting to let you download it, but I don't think you can email any exe or compressed exe. (I ended up renaming the installer to installername.installer and included instructions in the email to rename the extension to .exe).

Great work on Naum, and good luck implementing those Ippo ideas.... :roll:

Peter
It's odd, gmail will not allow you to send a zipped .exe file, but you can send a .rar file with a .exe included. I had no problem download Naum in a .rar file, so Uri must have some other problem.
In the past there was problem only with zip file but for some reason today there is also a problem with rar file(not that it does not allow me to send but that I simply cannot download it).
naum

Re: NAUM 4.2

Post by naum »

LOL. Frustrating isn't it. It would be so much easier if you could just copy the algorithm ;)
For the last 2 weeks I am trying various combinations of the BSR pruning (reduce later moves more). Engine goes so much deeper, but it sucks in games :(
naum

Re: NAUM 4.2

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Mostly various pruning techniques, the way forced move extensions are done, using move positional eval score in pruning and q-search,...
I also find interesting futility pruning in Stockfish.
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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Alex Naumov sent me Naum as .txt file and I renamed to .rar and now there is no problem with it(I still do not understand why I have problems to download rar files that I get by email).


Uri
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Re: NAUM 4.2

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naum wrote:Mostly various pruning techniques, the way forced move extensions are done, using move positional eval score in pruning and q-search,...
I also find interesting futility pruning in Stockfish.
How about the null-move pruning Dann Corbit used in Stockfish 1.6s? You might want to check that out, some tests had it up to ~60 elo stronger than the standard version. My tests had them roughly equal, though :(.

Peter