He is joking. Morsch was the developer until, and including, Fritz 13.Steve Maughan wrote:Hi Kai,Really? Or are you joking?Laskos wrote:I happened before, though not obviously. Fritz 11 has nothing to do with Fritz 10 and Frans Morsch. It has to do with Yuri Osipov and Vas Rajlich.
If it's true, it's news to me.
Steve
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Sounded more like an accusation wrapped in irony to me.
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Actually, I own both Fritz v10 and v11. They are different like day and night.Albert Silver wrote:He is joking. Morsch was the developer until, and including, Fritz 13.Steve Maughan wrote:Hi Kai,Really? Or are you joking?Laskos wrote:I happened before, though not obviously. Fritz 11 has nothing to do with Fritz 10 and Frans Morsch. It has to do with Yuri Osipov and Vas Rajlich.
If it's true, it's news to me.
Steve
Sure, Fritz 11 is visibly stronger, but the great style of Fritz 10, a landmark program that defeated WC Kramnik in 2006, was completely gone. Fritz 10 was/is one of the few programs capable of playing well in closed positions.
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Hi Carl,
I have Fritz 10, 12 and 13 - so missed 11. I was also impressed by 10. It seemed to a good engine.
So what's Frans Morsch up to these days? I had thought he was one of the very few professional chess programmers left.
Anyone know?
Steve
I have Fritz 10, 12 and 13 - so missed 11. I was also impressed by 10. It seemed to a good engine.
So what's Frans Morsch up to these days? I had thought he was one of the very few professional chess programmers left.
Anyone know?
Steve
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Hi Steve,Steve Maughan wrote:Hi Carl,
I have Fritz 10, 12 and 13 - so missed 11. I was also impressed by 10. It seemed to a good engine.
So what's Frans Morsch up to these days? I had thought he was one of the very few professional chess programmers left.
Anyone know?
Steve
It is a good question. It seems to me that his involvement in the Fritz project actually diminished after the success he had with Fritz 10. Some people say that CB wanted to catch up to Rybka and 'remodeled' Fritz to play more like Rybka, and thus we got Fritz 11-13, stronger but unimpressive.
Right now he seems to be out of the picture completely, which raises some questions.
However intrigued I am by the Pandix engine [aka Fritz 14], I do have to wonder about Frans Morsch exiting thru the backdoor like this.

Carl
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Re: New Fritz author?
There are no conspiracies. He is retiring of his own desire.carldaman wrote:Hi Steve,Steve Maughan wrote:Hi Carl,
I have Fritz 10, 12 and 13 - so missed 11. I was also impressed by 10. It seemed to a good engine.
So what's Frans Morsch up to these days? I had thought he was one of the very few professional chess programmers left.
Anyone know?
Steve
It is a good question. It seems to me that his involvement in the Fritz project actually diminished after the success he had with Fritz 10. Some people say that CB wanted to catch up to Rybka and 'remodeled' Fritz to play more like Rybka, and thus we got Fritz 11-13, stronger but unimpressive.
Right now he seems to be out of the picture completely, which raises some questions.
However intrigued I am by the Pandix engine [aka Fritz 14], I do have to wonder about Frans Morsch exiting thru the backdoor like this.![]()
Carl
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Re: New Fritz author?
Thanks for clarifying, Albert. I did not know the details.
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Re: New Fritz author?
Closed positions... Fritz10 or Deep Fritz10?carldaman wrote:Actually, I own both Fritz v10 and v11. They are different like day and night.Albert Silver wrote:He is joking. Morsch was the developer until, and including, Fritz 13.Steve Maughan wrote:Hi Kai,Really? Or are you joking?Laskos wrote:I happened before, though not obviously. Fritz 11 has nothing to do with Fritz 10 and Frans Morsch. It has to do with Yuri Osipov and Vas Rajlich.
If it's true, it's news to me.
Steve
Sure, Fritz 11 is visibly stronger, but the great style of Fritz 10, a landmark program that defeated WC Kramnik in 2006, was completely gone. Fritz 10 was/is one of the few programs capable of playing well in closed positions.
Regards,
CL
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Re: New Fritz author?
Deep Fritz 10.1 (version: 10.1.0.0; date of the version: 03-03-2007; size: 913.408 bytes) !A Distel wrote:Closed positions... Fritz10 or Deep Fritz10?carldaman wrote:Actually, I own both Fritz v10 and v11. They are different like day and night.Albert Silver wrote:He is joking. Morsch was the developer until, and including, Fritz 13.Steve Maughan wrote:Hi Kai,Really? Or are you joking?Laskos wrote:I happened before, though not obviously. Fritz 11 has nothing to do with Fritz 10 and Frans Morsch. It has to do with Yuri Osipov and Vas Rajlich.
If it's true, it's news to me.
Steve
Sure, Fritz 11 is visibly stronger, but the great style of Fritz 10, a landmark program that defeated WC Kramnik in 2006, was completely gone. Fritz 10 was/is one of the few programs capable of playing well in closed positions.
Regards,
CL
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Re: New Fritz author?
Fully agreed....Sylwy wrote:Deep Fritz 10.1 (version: 10.1.0.0; date of the version: 03-03-2007; size: 913.408 bytes) !A Distel wrote:Closed positions... Fritz10 or Deep Fritz10?carldaman wrote:Actually, I own both Fritz v10 and v11. They are different like day and night.Albert Silver wrote:He is joking. Morsch was the developer until, and including, Fritz 13.Steve Maughan wrote:Hi Kai,Really? Or are you joking?Laskos wrote:I happened before, though not obviously. Fritz 11 has nothing to do with Fritz 10 and Frans Morsch. It has to do with Yuri Osipov and Vas Rajlich.
If it's true, it's news to me.
Steve
Sure, Fritz 11 is visibly stronger, but the great style of Fritz 10, a landmark program that defeated WC Kramnik in 2006, was completely gone. Fritz 10 was/is one of the few programs capable of playing well in closed positions.
Regards,
CL
This engine has great tactical skills !
Regards,
SilvianR
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