86th Amateur Series Division 2

[Graham Banks]

Also the "nnue_scale" should be set to 256 for the net-scorpio-k16.bin net.
You have it set to 128 so that should be changed.

I'll do it now and restart the game.

[Daniel Shawul]

I don't think it is using NNUE net.
The scores it displays seems to match the non-NNUE version than it does the NNUE.
It would be very helpful to have a debug file from the GUI since I want to see how Scorpio is started. Maybe the GUI is messing up something.

Are you installing scorpio.bat as the engine in the GUI instead of scorpio.exe ?
That could be the reason ...

Note that I didn't have to edit anything in scorpio.ini after installation using the previous two steps.
I wonder why you had to edit so many things manually in your case.

[Graham Banks]

I'll email you a debug file.

[Daniel Shawul]

Thanks.
It looks like the GUI you are using fails to load egbbdll so it goes back to not using NNUE.

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Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- Number of cores 8 of 8
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- treeht 0 X 328 = 0.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- processors [1]
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- ht 16777216 X 16 = 256.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- eht 1048576 X 8 X 1 = 16.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- pht 131072 X 24 X 1 = 3.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- Error (unknown command): -xboard
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- EgbbProbe not Loaded!
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- loading_time = 0s
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- feature name=1 myname="Scorpio 3.0.12.1"

Also seems to not understand xboard mode.
You can try using UCI mode instead since Scorpio now supports UCI too.

Daniel

[Graham Banks]

Thanks.
It looks like the GUI you are using fails to load egbbdll so it goes back to not using NNUE.

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Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- Number of cores 8 of 8
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- treeht 0 X 328 = 0.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- processors [1]
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- ht 16777216 X 16 = 256.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- eht 1048576 X 8 X 1 = 16.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- pht 131072 X 24 X 1 = 3.0 MB
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- Error (unknown command): -xboard
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- EgbbProbe not Loaded!
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- loading_time = 0s
Eng01 (Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit) <- feature name=1 myname="Scorpio 3.0.12.1"

Also seems to not understand xboard mode.
You can try using UCI mode instead since Scorpio now supports UCI too.

Daniel

I'll try removing the xboard command first.
What I've previously found with Scorpio using uci, is that it plays the first move out of book instantly.

[Graham Banks]

I've tried everything I can think of now.

Daniel - if you have ChessGUI and Windows, can you please try?

[Graham Banks]

I have had to take Scorpio 3.0.12 64-bit out of the tournament, and replace it with Berserk 4.2.0 64-bit.

[Daniel Shawul]

I tried ChessGUI today and it seems it is one of those GUI's that only accepts exes and not bat files.
scorpio.bat is the engine that should be installed, not scorpio.exe, so it won't work unfortunately.
This is clearly mentioned in the INSTALL documentation, so if the GUI does not give you the option to pick scorpio.bat
we would have known it won't work right away.

Btw, I must mention how crappy ChessGUI is It has like a thousand tabs and I couldn't even get to run Stockfish with it ...

[Graham Banks]

86TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 2)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GM2700+.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)

The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will face automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.

Standings after Round 6

3.5 - Defenchess 2.2 64-bit
3.0 - Berserk 4.2.0 64-bit
3.0 - Arasan 22.3 64-bit
3.0 - Minic 3.07 64-bit
3.0 - Lc0 0.27.0 w703810 64-bit
3.0 - Combusken 1.4.0 64-bit
3.0 - DanaSah 8.8 64-bit
3.0 - Halogen 10 64-bit
3.0 - Wasp 4.50 64-bit
3.0 - Winter 0.9 64-bit
3.0 - RofChade 2.3 64-bit
2.5 - Schooner 2.2 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13048

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/

[Graham Banks]

I tried ChessGUI today and it seems it is one of those GUI's that only accepts exes and not bat files.
scorpio.bat is the engine that should be installed, not scorpio.exe, so it won't work unfortunately.
This is clearly mentioned in the INSTALL documentation, so if the GUI does not give you the option to pick scorpio.bat
we would have known it won't work right away.

Btw, I must mention how crappy ChessGUI is It has like a thousand tabs and I couldn't even get to run Stockfish with it ...

It's the GUI that I find most accommodating for engine v engine testing.

Sadly, Scorpio NNUE is the only engine I can't run.
If that changes, I'd be happy to run a gauntlet with it.