AlphaZero to analyse “no-castling” match

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Re: AlphaZero to analyse “no-castling” match

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Chessqueen wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:37 pm
AdminX wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:33 pm Well today is the day to fine out if Stockfish is better than AlphaZero in 'No Castling Chess', so here is the link to the website I believe.

https://sparkassen-chess-trophy.de/en
I can NOT find where Stockfish is playing Versus AlphaZero in 'No Castling Chess' ?
That is because that is not what I was referring to. I was referring to game analysis as was discussed early in this thread. As per the title of the Chessbase article, I thought that they would be analyzing the games live using AlphaZero and you could compare it with your local version on Stockfish.
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Vishy Anand and Vladimir Kramnik analyse their first game of the match

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NC Masters in Dortmund: Anand starts with a win

https://en.chessbase.com/post/nc-master ... with-a-win
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Game 2

[pgn]
[Event "NC World Masters 2021"]
[Site "Dortmund"]
[Date "2021.07.15"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B44"]
[WhiteElo "2753"]
[BlackElo "2753"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "78"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceQuality "1"]
[TimeControl "40/5400+30:1800+30"]

1. c4 {4} c5 {13} 2. Nf3 {6} Nf6 {17} 3. Nc3 {8} e6 {39} 4. e4 {8} Nc6 {50} 5.
d4 {8} cxd4 {105} 6. Nxd4 {6} e5 {25} (6... Bc5 $11 {remains equal.} 7. Nxc6
dxc6) 7. Nc2 {289} Bc5 {77} 8. Be3 {279} d6 {143} 9. Qd2 {152} Ng4 {330} 10.
Bxc5 {185} dxc5 {18} 11. Qxd8+ {264} Kxd8 {41} 12. Rd1+ {44} Nd4 {190} 13. h3 {
728} Nf6 {304} 14. f4 {343} Ke7 {807} 15. Bd3 {378} Nxc2+ {482} 16. Bxc2 {17}
Be6 {10} 17. fxe5 {53} Nd7 {9} 18. Nd5+ {38} Bxd5 {36} 19. exd5 {613} Nxe5 {45}
20. d6+ {25} Ke6 {182} 21. Rf1 {277} (21. O-O $5 f6 22. Bf5+ Kf7 23. Be4 $14)
21... g6 {79} 22. Be4 {576} f5 {79} 23. Bxb7 {173} Rab8 {184} 24. Bd5+ {7} Kxd6
{6} 25. Rd2 {388} Kc7 {172 Decoy} 26. Kd1 {86} Rhe8 {65} 27. Kc2 {636} Re7 {104
} 28. Re1 {234} Nc6 {185} 29. Rxe7+ {31} Nxe7 {6} 30. Kc3 {115} Rd8 {59} 31. a3
{27} Rd7 {202} 32. b4 {64} (32. Bf3 $11 {remains equal.}) 32... cxb4+ {42} ({
Better is} 32... Nxd5+ $17 33. cxd5 Kd6) 33. axb4 {10} Nxd5+ {4} 34. cxd5 {24}
Kd6 {7} 35. Kc4 {48} Rc7+ {62} 36. Kd4 {39} Rb7 {54} 37. Kc4 {12} Rc7+ $11 {
6 and Black has nothing to worry.} 38. Kd4 $11 {14} Rb7 {6} 39. Kc4 {4} Ke5 $2
1/2-1/2
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Re: AlphaZero to analyse “no-castling” match

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Where did you see that 39... Ke5? ??? :shock: :D
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Re: AlphaZero to analyse “no-castling” match

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AdminX wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:04 pm Game 2

[pgn]
[Event "NC World Masters 2021"]
[Site "Dortmund"]
[Date "2021.07.15"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B44"]
[WhiteElo "2753"]
[BlackElo "2753"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "78"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceQuality "1"]
[TimeControl "40/5400+30:1800+30"]

1. c4 {4} c5 {13} 2. Nf3 {6} Nf6 {17} 3. Nc3 {8} e6 {39} 4. e4 {8} Nc6 {50} 5.
d4 {8} cxd4 {105} 6. Nxd4 {6} e5 {25} (6... Bc5 $11 {remains equal.} 7. Nxc6
dxc6) 7. Nc2 {289} Bc5 {77} 8. Be3 {279} d6 {143} 9. Qd2 {152} Ng4 {330} 10.
Bxc5 {185} dxc5 {18} 11. Qxd8+ {264} Kxd8 {41} 12. Rd1+ {44} Nd4 {190} 13. h3 {
728} Nf6 {304} 14. f4 {343} Ke7 {807} 15. Bd3 {378} Nxc2+ {482} 16. Bxc2 {17}
Be6 {10} 17. fxe5 {53} Nd7 {9} 18. Nd5+ {38} Bxd5 {36} 19. exd5 {613} Nxe5 {45}
20. d6+ {25} Ke6 {182} 21. Rf1 {277} (21. O-O $5 f6 22. Bf5+ Kf7 23. Be4 $14)
21... g6 {79} 22. Be4 {576} f5 {79} 23. Bxb7 {173} Rab8 {184} 24. Bd5+ {7} Kxd6
{6} 25. Rd2 {388} Kc7 {172 Decoy} 26. Kd1 {86} Rhe8 {65} 27. Kc2 {636} Re7 {104
} 28. Re1 {234} Nc6 {185} 29. Rxe7+ {31} Nxe7 {6} 30. Kc3 {115} Rd8 {59} 31. a3
{27} Rd7 {202} 32. b4 {64} (32. Bf3 $11 {remains equal.}) 32... cxb4+ {42} ({
Better is} 32... Nxd5+ $17 33. cxd5 Kd6) 33. axb4 {10} Nxd5+ {4} 34. cxd5 {24}
Kd6 {7} 35. Kc4 {48} Rc7+ {62} 36. Kd4 {39} Rb7 {54} 37. Kc4 {12} Rc7+ $11 {
6 and Black has nothing to worry.} 38. Kd4 $11 {14} Rb7 {6} 39. Kc4 {4} Ke5 $2
1/2-1/2
[/pgn]
Like I said before Chess knowledge is chess Knowkedge, and it all depends on who is in better form with most active play during the year, NO matter if it is Normal Chess, Chess960(FRC) or No Castling chess, Anand has been the most active player and will come ahead :roll:
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ernest wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:03 am Where did you see that 39... Ke5? ??? :shock: :D
It was not played, dgt board when the king was placed on e5 to indicate a draw and the chessbase software recorded the move.
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Re: AlphaZero to analyse “no-castling” match

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What happened with the AlphaZero analysis, did that get cancelled?
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Leto wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:42 pm What happened with the AlphaZero analysis, did that get cancelled?
Good Question! I guess we will have to wait until the match is over, if we are to ever see it. :evil: It would have been nice to compare it with say Stockfish, Komodo, or Leela in real-time.
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