When Magnus cheats

[lkaufman]

I “link” to Niemann? Where?

For example here:

As a known cheater (see the thread about his cheating in lichess on a stream), why should we take Magnus seriously? Or is it one standard for Magnus, another for Hans?

or here:

So we have evidence of cheating from both Magnus and Hans.

You don't even just link the cases, you equalize them. And that's just ridiculous...

If someone says to you "You can trap it" in a won position in an OTB tournament you are a cheater? You would call the TD, and he would either adjudicate the position, or give a loss for you. Thats it.

Not necessarily. The person who called out "you can trap it" would probably be expelled, but it's not clear that any penalty can be applied to the player since he might have seen the move on his own (though apparently not in the current example) and should not be presumed to have requested help. Otherwise you could get a player forfeited by having an associate shout out unsolicited obvious advice.

[M ANSARI]

You want this to portray MC as a cheater that is fine, maybe this will make any cheating by Hans more acceptable to you. Good for you! dude really .

By the way what happened about me gossiping about Dlugy being banned for cheating? I guess maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do. Next time do your research before before accusing others of gossip.

It’s not a question of what I want but a question of fact.

As for Maxim Dlugy, let me guess: you don’t know anything just heard some more gossip. If chess.com has an announcement or statement somewhere, please share it.

Why don't you go and check the games out for yourself. With Dlugy it was not a sophisticated cheat ... it was a bunch of 98 and even 99% first engine moves in games he won in a row and then he got thrown out for cheating. If you look at his game against Hikaru ... it was around 50%.

[dkappe]

You want this to portray MC as a cheater that is fine, maybe this will make any cheating by Hans more acceptable to you. Good for you! dude really .

By the way what happened about me gossiping about Dlugy being banned for cheating? I guess maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do. Next time do your research before before accusing others of gossip.

It’s not a question of what I want but a question of fact.

As for Maxim Dlugy, let me guess: you don’t know anything just heard some more gossip. If chess.com has an announcement or statement somewhere, please share it.

Why don't you go and check the games out for yourself. With Dlugy it was not a sophisticated cheat ... it was a bunch of 98 and even 99% first engine moves in games he won in a row and then he got thrown out for cheating. If you look at his game against Hikaru ... it was around 50%.

You have some examples? Or you just read some gossip somewhere? I know: you could watch some of Dlugy’s instructional videos on chess.com.

[CornfedForever]

I “link” to Niemann? Where?

For example here:

As a known cheater (see the thread about his cheating in lichess on a stream), why should we take Magnus seriously? Or is it one standard for Magnus, another for Hans?

or here:

So we have evidence of cheating from both Magnus and Hans.

You don't even just link the cases, you equalize them. And that's just ridiculous...

If someone says to you "You can trap it" in a won position in an OTB tournament you are a cheater? You would call the TD, and he would either adjudicate the position, or give a loss for you. Thats it.

Not necessarily. The person who called out "you can trap it" would probably be expelled, but it's not clear that any penalty can be applied to the player since he might have seen the move on his own (though apparently not in the current example) and should not be presumed to have requested help. Otherwise you could get a player forfeited by having an associate shout out unsolicited obvious advice.

In the Magnus example, he specifically asks "how?" That is the very definition of soliciting, isn't it?

[lkaufman]

I “link” to Niemann? Where?

For example here:

As a known cheater (see the thread about his cheating in lichess on a stream), why should we take Magnus seriously? Or is it one standard for Magnus, another for Hans?

or here:

So we have evidence of cheating from both Magnus and Hans.

You don't even just link the cases, you equalize them. And that's just ridiculous...

If someone says to you "You can trap it" in a won position in an OTB tournament you are a cheater? You would call the TD, and he would either adjudicate the position, or give a loss for you. Thats it.

Not necessarily. The person who called out "you can trap it" would probably be expelled, but it's not clear that any penalty can be applied to the player since he might have seen the move on his own (though apparently not in the current example) and should not be presumed to have requested help. Otherwise you could get a player forfeited by having an associate shout out unsolicited obvious advice.

In the Magnus example, he specifically asks "how?" That is the very definition of soliciting, isn't it?

Yes, I'm only saying that you can't blame a player from getting unsolicited advice; that doesn't seem to apply in this case once he asked "how?".