Another Stockfish Clone/ Genko

[mehmet123]

If this NNUE network (nn-154550620475) is incompatible with Stockfish codes, wouldn't it be possible to see bad results against Stockfish. At least, I have not encountered such a situation in my own tests.
forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=81044

[DrEinstein]

I have to admit that I like this thread and that I have a lot of fun reading it. Keep up this intertaining thread guys!

[mehmet123]

I have to admit that I like this thread and that I have a lot of fun reading it. Keep up this intertaining thread guys!

I'm glad you read it with a smile . The person you use in your nickname Albert Einstein argued that neither wealth nor the accumulation of possessions enhances a person's happiness and that the simplest things can provide great joy. One of the two universities I graduated from was Physics. Quantum Physics has always been my favourite and for me Quantum Physics is illogical.

[DrEinstein]

I have to admit that I like this thread and that I have a lot of fun reading it. Keep up this intertaining thread guys!

I'm glad you read it with a smile . The person you use in your nickname Albert Einstein argued that neither wealth nor the accumulation of possessions enhances a person's happiness and that the simplest things can provide great joy. One of the two universities I graduated from was Physics. Quantum Physics has always been my favourite and for me Quantum Physics is illogical.

The mathematics of quantum mechanics and later quantum theories (QED, QCD, ...) isn't illogical. However, I agree that all 'interpretations' of quantum mechanics are, to a certain degree, illogical. A good example is Einstein's 'spooky action at a distance' for entangled particles. Feynman stated that nobody really 'understands' quantum physics which is, till today, in particular true for such particle pairs. But as I wrote at the beginning: The math of these theories works perfect and explains a lot of things in nature very well.
Quit a little bit OT but it took to long to just delete it now.

[supersharp77]

Don't Listen To The Skeptics & Haters....Kayra Tests Very very well (Kayra v1.4!) I assume Genko 1.0a (with bin books) will test strong as well!! Great Work My Friend!

You want people to use your engine, but you're not moving forward. At least Andrea Manzo is there on PlayChess watching. MZ played and tested a lot on PlayChess (even with 2 accounts at the same time). The Eman author plays the tournaments on InfinityChess every day. He even plays with 3 or 4 accounts at the same time. The Raubfisch author also plays on PlayChess, and also on InfinityChess. I played against him in the freestyle tournament. The Fire author is also on InfinityChess. We all test live. Only you don't do that and only post unimportant private results.

I didn't have a curiosity about whether people playing on platforms like Playchess use Kayra. I haven't logged into my Playchess account for a long time anyway. The number of download numbers doesn't matter to me either but Kayra is already one of the most downloaded chess engine after Stockfish. I think that especially Turkish chess fans are effective for this.

A few years ago on a not active Turkish chess forum, I started sharing links to new chess programs (not commercial) and news about computer chess.
I took action because it was enough for me to inform even one person about chess programs. In time, interest in this topic has increased, especially after the release of Kayra chess engines and it has exceeded as a record number like 816,000 as of now.

My main purpose of writing in this topic is to increase the culture of young people about Computer Chess World. Young chess fans not only should know popular programs like Stockfish, Komodo, Houdini, but they should know today's engines like Ethereal, Koivisto, Wasp etc. and they should know important nostalgic chess programs like MacHack, Chess, Kaissa, Bell, Cray Blitz, Hitech, Deep Thought, Zappa etc. Also, chess fans should not forget the names of people who contributed to Computer Chess World such as Georgy Adelson-Velsky, Hans Berliner, Dan/Kathleen Spracklen, Tony/Linda Scherzer, Ken Thompson, Robert Hyatt, Don Dailey etc.

Many things were said in the forums of Kayra chess engines that it violated GPL rules( pre test times), clone, weak, codes / parameters are ridiculous, etc. These are not things that I'm angry about, people are free to think as they want. But even today I get angry at the disrespectful people who make fun of Robert Hyatt and insult him because of Crafty engine isn' t one of the top engines in Rybkaforum. Although the chess engines developed by people who have made significant contributions to the Computer Chess World in the past are among the weakest chess engines today, these people don' t lose anything from their dignity.

[mehmet123]

Don't Listen To The Skeptics & Haters....Kayra Tests Very very well (Kayra v1.4!) I assume Genko 1.0a (with bin books) will test strong as well!! Great Work My Friend!

The successful results of Kayra chess engines against other chess engines (Stockfish Dev/Stockfish Derivatives) in independent tests are published in chess forums (I don't not include my own chess engine tests).
In addition, in the Woblis rating list, the top 3 rankings are Kayra 1.5, Kayra 1.6 and Kayra 1.4.
I think the measure of success that Eduard is based on Playchess and the chess problem solving capacity. Ironic, he was the one who stated on the forums that although he played Kayra in playchess without a strong opening book and he had never been defeated with Kayra chess engine in more than 1500 games.

I noticed that Eduard had developed Stockfish derivative chess engines with very strong problem solving abilities. Frankly, I was surprised to find that in a test Leptir 4 chess engine solved more chess problems than Crystal 5 (115/120 vs 113/120). Crystal has been developed by Joseph Ellis for better problem solving for 3-4 years.
https://solistachess.jimdosite.com/testing/

[mehmet123]

Genko 1.1:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/xuo1vjxv ... 1.zip/file

[Sopel]

Let me guess, new net?

[mehmet123]

Let me guess, new net?

You are right. This NNUE net is the first net to pass the tests after 5 months. I don't think this NNUE net will affect the engine +3 elo in long-time games. My guess is that the effect of this NNUE net on the engine is in the range of 0-1 elo at rapid/ long time games.