Terry McCracken wrote:Hmmm....What can I do do get $1,500 out of you? Regards,
Terry
Very Easy Terry
achieve an Elo of above 2600 for 10 years and then agree to play a draw odds match(black pieces only) against the current strongest PC engine
Walk In The Park Regards
Steve
How about a correspondence ELO above 2600 (and correspondence draw odds games)?
hi Robin
well you are a two-time US Correspondence Champion and of course a GM so i think you would just eat Rybka for Breakfast
and besides..you will be too busy as a moderator for the CTF
Breakfast Of Champions Regards
Steve
I have also correspondence rating above 2600 and
I think that you underestimate rybka.
Correspondence players above 2600 are better than engines but
I think that the difference is not big enough to expect beating rybka with draw odds espacially when I expect the rybka team to do some modifications for the match to make winning harder when rybka will force a draw even in a slightly better position because she is going to consider a draw as a win for herself.
Terry McCracken wrote:Hmmm....What can I do do get $1,500 out of you? Regards,
Terry
Very Easy Terry
achieve an Elo of above 2600 for 10 years and then agree to play a draw odds match(black pieces only) against the current strongest PC engine
Walk In The Park Regards
Steve
How about a correspondence ELO above 2600 (and correspondence draw odds games)?
Serious, I think it´s a good idea, a correspondence match. Do you remember Steeve Ram match against some engines?
I liked this match.
Do you think that you have chances against Rybka? Chess, not pawn odds.
By the way I didnt´t knew that you are a strong correspondence chess player. I knew that Uri was strong.
Congratulations,
Terry McCracken wrote:Hmmm....What can I do do get $1,500 out of you? Regards,
Terry
Very Easy Terry
achieve an Elo of above 2600 for 10 years and then agree to play a draw odds match(black pieces only) against the current strongest PC engine
Walk In The Park Regards
Steve
How about a correspondence ELO above 2600 (and correspondence draw odds games)?
Serious, I think it´s a good idea, a correspondence match. Do you remember Steeve Ram match against some engines?
I liked this match.
Do you think that you have chances against Rybka? Chess, not pawn odds.
By the way I didnt´t knew that you are a strong correspondence chess player. I knew that Uri was strong.
Congratulations,
Paulo Soares
Thanks Paulo. However I don't think my playing a correspondence match versus Rybka would be nearly as interesting as Steve Ham's match was. This is because Steve played without computer assistance, while I always play with computer assistance. Since I would know I was playing Rybka, and could consult Rybka, this would give me an unfair advantage and detract from the interest.
i wonder if we could make the match more interesting ...
i have a theory that Gm's of Benjamins strength and experience with chess engines can still play close to even with the White pieces but no longer as Black
so i am proposing the following for which i would add to the prize fund a Guaranteed appearance fee to GM Benjamin of $1500 (all other monetary conditions would remain the same)
The GM plays White 4 games against a fully loaded Rybka with full Noomen book and full table bases
with the Black pieces the GM receives DRAW ODDS(meaning that a draw is scored as a win for black)
book limited to 5 moves..full table bases
if the GM will not agree to that then another possibility is for the GM
as Black to receive pawns odds(and therefore no book ) table bases allowed
the pawn to be removed is randomly chosen at the start of each game by the drawing of lots(sealed letters a-h)
each successive pawns odds game will be chosen from the remaining pawns so as not to repeat the same pawn being removed
in my opinion these two alternatives would be far more interesting then the present match conditions
ALL other match terms and conditions as already stated would hold
as the match now stands Joel could go home with NOTHING(if he were not to score any points) and would only walk away with the $150 Train fare
certainly a GM of Benjamin's Stature is deserving of something better then that
under my proposal he receives a Guaranteed appearance fee of $1500(which is only $700 less then the MAXIMUM he could win as it stands now)and he still has the chance to win the $2200
of course these two proposals are not straight up ..mano y mano contests with no odds
but i fear that the GM would not even consider to play on even terms and i doubt he could win such a match(although he could probably score some points)
i think the "draw odds" proposal is not so onerous and it does not alter the normal play of the game in any way as does material odds
hopefully he would agree to DRAW odds and not pawn odds with the black pieces
i would send the money by Paypal to Kaufman or the Rybka Paypal site(to be turned over to Kaufman) immediately as soon as i am contacted by either Kaufman or Rajlich so that they had the money in their hands well in advance of even mentioning the proposal to the GM
if he agrees the money is paid upon his appearance at Kaufmans home on the scheduled start day of the match..if he does not the money is returned to me
Best Regards
Steve
Hi Steve,
thanks very much.
This match is handled by Larry Kaufman. I'm sending him an email to make sure that he's aware of your offer. He's on vacation right now so it might be a couple of days before you get an answer.
Indeed, we are still trying to raise a bit more money for this match.
Vas
Thanks Vas
i am glad you take my offer in the good spirit of competition that it was intended
i will send the money to you or Kaufman even BEFORE you mention the offer to GM Benjamin so that you have the comfort of knowing it is already in your hands
if you like i can send the money even right now to a Paypal address you provide me .(.either here or privately) ..i will incur all Paypal fees as well so that you have in your hands EXACTLY $1500
if GM Benjamin declines my offer (or if Kaufman declines it ) then the money can simply be returned to my Paypal account
Mark wrote:Maybe more money could be raised if Larry sets up a few folding chairs (or a leather recliner if Steve comes) in his living room and sells tickets? I live very close to Larry and would love to see a game or two.
