Ifrid??

[Dann Corbit]

{Using the version of the program with serious bugs removed}

Can this bug-free version be downloaded?

I sent the repaired version back to the author. I do not know if he will accept my changes.

[Tony Thomas]

{Using the version of the program with serious bugs removed}

Can this bug-free version be downloaded?

I sent the repaired version back to the author. I do not know if he will accept my changes.

There is a C27 version available.

[Dann Corbit]

{Using the version of the program with serious bugs removed}

Can this bug-free version be downloaded?

I sent the repaired version back to the author. I do not know if he will accept my changes.

There is a C27 version available.

My corrections were done to that version. C27 is definitely broken. It reads and writes to random places in memory and so it is clearly not safe to use it. I sent a corrected version to the author. I sent explanations machine translated to Russian to the author this morning.

[Dann Corbit]

{Using the version of the program with serious bugs removed}

Can this bug-free version be downloaded?

I sent the repaired version back to the author. I do not know if he will accept my changes.

There is a C27 version available.

My corrections were done to that version. C27 is definitely broken. It reads and writes to random places in memory and so it is clearly not safe to use it. I sent a corrected version to the author. I sent explanations machine translated to Russian to the author this morning.

This is the text of the message I sent this morning:

"There are two very important corrections.

There is a structure that is used to perform addressing that contains garbage because it is not initialized. This causes reading and writing to random places in memory.

There is also a character string that is far too small, causing memory overwrites.

Char string_in_l[20] ; // Is much too small!
T_board_list_816 board_list_816={0};// this must be initialized to {0}!

The other problems are mostly due to language changes. The C++ standard specifies <iostream> and not <iostream.h> for instance.

Machine translation:
2 очень важных коррекции. Будет структура использована для того чтобы выполнить адресовать то содержит отброс потому что он не выступлен с иничиативой. Это причиняет чтение и сочинительство к случайно местам в памяти. Будет также характерная черта далекие слишком малыми, причиняя память overwrites.

char string_in_l[20 ]; //очень слишком мало!

t_board_list_816 board_list_816={0};// это необходимо выступить с иничиативой к {0}!

There is resistance to your site because there are links that advocate software stealing.

Machine translation:
Будет сопротивление к вашему месту потому что будут соединения защищают красть средства программирования."

[Dann Corbit]

{Using the version of the program with serious bugs removed}

Can this bug-free version be downloaded?

I sent the repaired version back to the author. I do not know if he will accept my changes.

There is a C27 version available.

My corrections were done to that version. C27 is definitely broken. It reads and writes to random places in memory and so it is clearly not safe to use it. I sent a corrected version to the author. I sent explanations machine translated to Russian to the author this morning.

This is the text of the message I sent this morning:

"There are two very important corrections.

There is a structure that is used to perform addressing that contains garbage because it is not initialized. This causes reading and writing to random places in memory.

There is also a character string that is far too small, causing memory overwrites.

Char string_in_l[20] ; // Is much too small!
T_board_list_816 board_list_816={0};// this must be initialized to {0}!

The other problems are mostly due to language changes. The C++ standard specifies <iostream> and not <iostream.h> for instance.

Machine translation:
2 очень важных коррекции. Будет структура использована для того чтобы выполнить адресовать то содержит отброс потому что он не выступлен с иничиативой. Это причиняет чтение и сочинительство к случайно местам в памяти. Будет также характерная черта далекие слишком малыми, причиняя память overwrites.

char string_in_l[20 ]; //очень слишком мало!

t_board_list_816 board_list_816={0};// это необходимо выступить с иничиативой к {0}!

There is resistance to your site because there are links that advocate software stealing.

Machine translation:
Будет сопротивление к вашему месту потому что будут соединения защищают красть средства программирования."

The author posted the corrected version at his site:
http://andchess2006.narod.ru/Dann_Corbit/ifrid.zip

About the piracy link, I looked at the links and the sites are in Russian. The third link has a picture of a pirate on it, but does anyone know if the site actually advocates piracy? I cannot tell from what I see of it.

[Dann Corbit]

Interesting......so CCRLka don't careka what the author is called after all. So if you test Ifrid you will test all our ones as well. Good to knowka....

Get to it Grahamka.......

Seems the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing at CCRLka.

Also for information Tony............Mutha is an original engine

Chriska

Chris,

First I will not be testing Ifrid while the engine site links to a forum that allows pirated software...

However I seriously doubt an open source engine is going to be a clone - this would have to be a first...

Please stick to the facts and stop 'spinning/twisting' everything.

I support what you are trying to do but I hate the way you are going about it.

Shaun

That is why I told him to go and look at the source. He asked what I thought of Ifrid. I have no thoughts on the matter. He can easily go and find out himself as the engine IS open source. Do keep up.......

As to the pirate software site, that's wrong but being a human (yes its true) I do have a choice. I can choose wether to click on it or not.

The pirate software site itself should be shut down.

The comments directed at CCRLka are because they previously stated that they do not test anonymous engines. Ifrid IS anonymous.

So one member states they dont test them......

http://schachwerkstatt.foren-city.de/to ... rybka.html

......and here....another one (Kirill Kryukov) says they do.

I hate the way the american computer chess community is not self aware. In the european computer chess community its very different. Most of the people there know when a dog is a dog. Issues of copyright are resolved in a fair and methodical way. Here its trial by forum and even those who should know better perform as if they have blinkers on.

In the US disassembly is ok it seems (i'd love to see it really tested although). In Europe its not and it does not matter how bloody strong the engine is.

While this impass exists you will always struggle here.

I personally cannot be bothered with what you think here whilst you insist on giving air to what is so obviously illegal. Me? I will however stop on the road to shoot in the head a rabid dog. If you want to be bitten by it of course that is not my problem. Hey....I'm alive....who cares about you?

If you want people to just hop in at 2800 elo with no work involved thats up to you. Marian Jones syndrome is a well tried and very precarious route to success throughout history.

In sane societies it fails for obvious reasons.

There is no spin here. If you allow things like Strelka any form of competition is dead. CCRLka should know better but to be blinded by elo is a force to be reckoned with.

I have no qualms about placing in the bucket any kind of rubbish like that at all.

Time you all woke up or even developed a pulse........

Chriska

I have to admit it, I am agreeing with Chris Conkie about something.

Software piracy should not be condoned.

I must caution that there are links on his site that are possibly advocating software piracy.

Especially with chess, software piracy makes no sense. You can get amateur programs that are nearly as strong as the strongest professional ones for free and great free interfaces like Areana and Winboard and great free databases like Scid. And the cost for chess software is very reasonable anyway (I just purchased ChessAssistant 9.1 mega package last night for $99 as an upgrade). It's a sad comment on society I guess. I cannot say for sure that something bad is going on because I do not understand Russian and the machine translators are not very good at following links.