Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

[AdminX]

18 years old Vincent Keymer Just stated in an interview, that he studied 75% of Carlsen games and he was just waiting for a chance to see how he would play against the Champ. That is the disadvantage of being the Champion, that everybody who wants to become the World champion someday study your games in detail

I agree, 'That is the disadvantage of being the Champion'.

[M ANSARI]

Well he has been at it for 10 years and still he is way ahead of everyone. Of course everyone goes all out against him as they have nothing to lose, but in his interview he says he likes that challenge. I think MC has won everything there is to win and just wants to enjoy chess without having to work endlessly at openings and preparation. His reaction to the chess cheating was unusual for him, so I am sure he thinks something is up with Hans. His collaboration with Chess.com might have given him additional inforamtion that reinforced his conclusion that Hans is not clean. If any chess player can force taking chess cheating seriously ... it is him. A tournament he plays in attracts way more viewers than a tournament he doesn't participate in. I do think if chess cheating is not taken seriously it could damage chess as a spectator sport. Nepo has put a video on what he thinks. You can see he is very suspicious of Hans ... and was surprised and not happy at all and complained when Hans got a wild card entry when Rapport had logistical problems and couldn't participate. He mentions again that a strong player ... say 2600 ... can really crush anyone by just a few hints in a game. I think that is why the chess moves alone should not be the only tangent you use to find a chess cheater. There probably is a lot of information on non chess
statistical information. You can see his interview here. It is a little long but it shows the struggles many of the GM's are feeling at the moment.

[AdminX]

Thanks to the Chessable ad's shown in the Julius Baer Generation Cup, I have found out that I am both John and Ed! SMH

[CornfedForever]

His reaction to the chess cheating was unusual for him, so I am sure he thinks something is up with Hans.

Unusual...and the proverbial 'pot calling the kettle black' would fit given the livestream video which shows Magnus saying he is "still confused"...and David Howell saying "you can trap it"...Magnus asking David "How?" and then realizing he could trap Daniel Naroditsky's Queen...and playing the move to do so. Titled Arena December 2021. Yes, it was a prize $$ tourney the winner (DrChampionstein - Magnus) getting $500.

[M ANSARI]

Caruana gives a surprising interview with some new data. He says MC had felt for a while that Hans was cheating and that seemed to complain to the organizers about the issue before the SL tournament when he was given a Wild Card and replaced Rapport. He also gives a very pessimistic view on the future of ocmpetitive chess if cheating is not somehow controlled. He also trashes IM Regan chess cheating algo and says he knows one chess cheater that he is 100% was cheating in OTB tourney where after an investigation, the Regan algo exonerated him. Also that many GM's were suspicious and would ask him his opinion with regards to Hans.

I also agree that the IM Regan system of checking if someone is cheating is very primitive. A smart cheater would easily be able to circumvent it. Caruana seems to think that Chess.com anti cheating algo is at the forefront of anti cheating and is the way to go. Here you can get a few more insights on how Chess.com anti cheating algo works by Danny Rensch.

[marsell]

A real witch hunt by MC without providing any evidence... disgusting

[M ANSARI]

His reaction to the chess cheating was unusual for him, so I am sure he thinks something is up with Hans.

Unusual...and the proverbial 'pot calling the kettle black' would fit given the livestream video which shows Magnus saying he is "still confused"...and David Howell saying "you can trap it"...Magnus asking David "How?" and then realizing he could trap Daniel Naroditsky's Queen...and playing the move to do so. Titled Arena December 2021. Yes, it was a prize $$ tourney the winner (DrChampionstein - Magnus) getting $500.

With regards to the prize money that MC got from these tourneys ... he must have won it maybe like 10 x or more ... every time he wins he lets the winnings go to the next tournament so that the prize money is increased for someone else to win it. I think at one time he won something like 3 or 4 x in a row and the prize would get bigger and bigger. He sometimes comes in these tourney like an hour late ... which is the equivalent of forfeiting around 20 games and giving people a head start and he tries to catch up. I agree that what Howell did was not correct and if you watch the video you can see that MC also immediately says so. I am quite sure that this was not a premediated cospiracy to cheat and steal the $500 prize money ... I mean Howell is maybe 400 ELO points weaker in bullet and maybe getting help from a person who is much weaker than you can probably hurt more than help, especially in a bullet game. Howell was not using an engine I am quite sure. This was a bunch of jovial guys chugging alcohol and a sober Howel would probably not have done that. You could say that is enough reason to disqualify someone for a tournament ... but I don't know if you could or what the rules are for something like that.

I am sure you probably know most of that and somehow you want to use this to equate to the cheating that Hans did ... so if MC did it then Hans also can do it and it is no big deal. Hans cheating was using a premeditated and calculated scheme where he used engine help to obfuscate that he was cheating. He did this not once, but many times and every time he would try to mprove his cheating system. That is very worrying, especially as he is a very strong player and most likely 2600+ ELO. Here is Hans on one of the times he got banned ... it is live on his stream ... he acts like he is dumbfounded how Chess.com could accuse him of cheating and immediately says he wants to quit Chess.com and go to Lichess (where apparently it is easier to cheat). His reaction to him getting caught (and he admitted being caught and that Chess.com has best anti cheating system)... speaks volumes on his character. This was not someone who sheepishly accepted he got caught ... it is someone that was surprised he got caught and immediately ridicules those who caught him. It is an extremely worrying personality trait and really you have to cringe when you watch this video of him getting caught while he is streaming.

[Alexander Schmidt]

A real witch hunt by MC without providing any evidence... disgusting

For me this is a witch hunt on MC. He just don't want to play a known cheater anymore which I can fully understand.

[AdminX]

Boo hoo. I lost. He must have cheated.

You are correct Sir, He should have done that against GM Pragg that beats him thee times already==>

You are correct Sir, his (Graham Banks) facts don't match his feelings!

[chetday]

I read a good article this morning which quotes a few words and a not so subtle slam at Niemann's mentor. Magnus said:

"Unfortunately I cannot particularly speak on that, but people can draw their own conclusion, and they certainly have. I have to say I’m very impressed by Niemann’s play, and I think his mentor Maxim Dlugy must be doing a great job."

Full article at:

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/genera ... ut-niemann