AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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CornfedForever wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:41 pm
Level-4-Lab wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:45 am
CornfedForever wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:44 pm Right, but not using Ryzen Master. You actually have to your BIOS and tweak it...every time I think so that's not ideal. "This is for advanced users only, so beware—anytime you tinker with your BIOS settings, there are many things that can go wrong. (Especially with a new platform that may have some gremlins in the software this early, so do so at your own risk and tread carefully."

And if someone was wanting to run this at 65W (except for 'gaming) regularly, it could be argued that they should probably just get a different processor.
No surprise the guy who is drooling over the new watered down Kindergarten version of the Chessbase interface can't figure out how to tweak bios settings without bricking his 'puter. Too bad they don't have a menu option button that says "make cpu faster" in a large comic sans font. You would love that :D
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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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I found a low price Ryzen 7000 series desktop. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions?

https://www.magicmicro.com/14463/
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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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Leo wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:47 pm I found a low price Ryzen 7000 series desktop. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions?

https://www.magicmicro.com/14463/
Not that I am aware of, but I've seen this as well - no 7950 non-X though. The highest they go is 7900 non x. Cheaper yet overclockable to really the same power at the original 'X'. AND it comes with a good CPU Cooler which handles 65W and a bit above.

A good option as the specs (sanz the extra heat/power) are the same. The way I see it is you can run at 65W but for a few sec more and get the same results as if you ran the 'x' version (with watercooling) at full throttle. And...again...it's overclockable, but you would need watercooling for that.

I seriously doubt AMD will come out with a 7950x. Gotta keep that differentiation at the top to justify the price of the flagship processor.

I read SEVERAL articles/videos about these last night at different places...just google'.

Also, I saw a good video about running the big 'x' versions at 65W and an 'in between' number (80W?) from Gamers NEXUS a while back. But you would need a good CPU cooler for those...the 'non-X' comes with one.

I'm seriously thinking about the 7900 for 2 reasons: 1. I do NOT want to use a watercooler at this point - perhaps ever really...but i would still have that option 2. the platform should be good thru at least 2025 and it motherboard/socket would be able to handle the next iteration of this chip should I chose to upgrade (The Intel version is a dead end - moving to a new platform next CPU generation).
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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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I would like to make a request to someone who has the 7950x.
Do a test using a pre-NNUE version of SF to isolate pure integer performance.
test 1 - using 16 threads
test 2 - using 32 threads
To see how much better are 32 threads than 16 threads.
This way we can have an idea if those hyperthreading cores are any good.
I have reasons to suspect AMD changes this overtime. I suspect the 3000 series has good hyperthreading cores but the 5000 series has not.

thanks,
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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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CornfedForever wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:32 pm
Leo wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:47 pm I found a low price Ryzen 7000 series desktop. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions?

https://www.magicmicro.com/14463/
Not that I am aware of, but I've seen this as well - no 7950 non-X though. The highest they go is 7900 non x. Cheaper yet overclockable to really the same power at the original 'X'. AND it comes with a good CPU Cooler which handles 65W and a bit above.

A good option as the specs (sanz the extra heat/power) are the same. The way I see it is you can run at 65W but for a few sec more and get the same results as if you ran the 'x' version (with watercooling) at full throttle. And...again...it's overclockable, but you would need watercooling for that.

I seriously doubt AMD will come out with a 7950x. Gotta keep that differentiation at the top to justify the price of the flagship processor.

I read SEVERAL articles/videos about these last night at different places...just google'.

Also, I saw a good video about running the big 'x' versions at 65W and an 'in between' number (80W?) from Gamers NEXUS a while back. But you would need a good CPU cooler for those...the 'non-X' comes with one.

I'm seriously thinking about the 7900 for 2 reasons: 1. I do NOT want to use a watercooler at this point - perhaps ever really...but i would still have that option 2. the platform should be good thru at least 2025 and it motherboard/socket would be able to handle the next iteration of this chip should I chose to upgrade (The Intel version is a dead end - moving to a new platform next CPU generation).
OK. Thanks.
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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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Leo wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:47 pm I found a low price Ryzen 7000 series desktop. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions?

https://www.magicmicro.com/14463/
As already mentioned, for the X-series you want to consider an AIO water-cooling solution, as a rule of thumb, 1x120mm radiator+fan@1000RPM @~20°C ambient cools about 100W, to fully unlock the 7950X with acceptable noise level a 3x120mm radiator+fans it should be, some people swear on the maxed-out Noctua air-coolers. A high-end GPU consumes nowadays up to 450W, maybe this will increase to max 500W in future, so the PSU you choose now defines your upgrade path, and the more heat by CPU+GPU in your case, the more case-fans you want to add for the air flow. Running a Ryzen 7000@65W and running a Ryzen 7000@230W + GPU@450W needs different solutions for PSU and cooling...

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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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Cardosa: Ipman has already test! 75.455.520 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X @4.7Ghz DDR5 6000 CL30 32threads
48.196.993 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X @4.7Ghz DDR5 6000 CL30 16cores
Big gain, but NPS don't tell much about ELO gain.
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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks - Thank you very much Jouni.

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Thank you very much Jouni.
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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Benchmarks

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Jouni wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:03 am Cardosa: Ipman has already test! 75.455.520 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X @4.7Ghz DDR5 6000 CL30 32threads
48.196.993 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X @4.7Ghz DDR5 6000 CL30 16cores
Big gain, but NPS don't tell much about ELO gain.
'elo' is just a number related to engine vs engine.
But NPS...is kind of a measure of how much work can get done in a given period of time. With the numbers cited, it looks like you can get much more done quicker.
In that sense, I find comparing different CPU's at different threads to be interesting. For example a cheaper 7900x at 24 thread vs a 7950xat 16 threads...or even the new 7900 at 65W and 24 thread vs the 7950x at 12 thread. I would guess the number are out there for most CPU's, but have not had a chance to see 'what equals what' yet.