Le Tournoi Thematique B22 (60'/40+30')

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Le Tournoi Thematique B22 (60'/40+30')

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Hi,

The thematic tournament B22 is online.

The start position after 1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nf3 e6 5.d4 cxd4 6.cxd4 b6 7.Bc4
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Naum 2.0 and Glaurung played 7...Ba6 as Black (65% for Black), other engines played 7...Bb7 (only 30% for Black).

PGN and opening report here

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Patrick
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Re: Le Tournoi Thematique B22 (60'/40+30')

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Hi Patrick !

Just again only top-engines. :?
Do you do this opening tourney with other engines (leagues) as well ?


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Daniel Mehrmann wrote:Hi Patrick !

Just again only top-engines. :?
Do you do this opening tourney with other engines (leagues) as well ?


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Daniel
Hi Daniel,

All Engines of all Divisions played with this opening in 5'+5"; but it's too fast for you.

But play 392 games at 60'/40+30' = 50 days. In 50 days, 10% of the engines are updated.

If you have interest on B22 thematic tournaments Tournois thématiques B22 in the UEL, if you have only interest on long time thematic tournaments Index de tous Les Tournois Thématiques

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Patrick
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Re: Le Tournoi Thematique B22 (60'/40+30')

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Le Fou numerique wrote:
All Engines of all Divisions played with this opening in 5'+5"; but it's too fast for you.
Naaaaa, it's okay for me. I just overlooked that... :oops:

Why should it to fast for me ? Yes, right, Homer isn't good on blitz level, but that's okay. :)
I decided myself, a year ago, to go another way. I believe on knowledge. I think it's the key for a strong engine. But knowledge costs speed and speed is needed for blitz games.
However, i have no problem with Blitz tourneys at all. If Homer has only 2300 ELO in engine vs engine matches on blitz level it's true and okay.

My personal focus is on creating a analyse tool for human players and nothing else. Just right now i'm doing a break of developing my engine.
It's pretty nice and i'm starting to see things different. :D

I'm staying over the things just for myself now. They can't hurt me longer and i'm feeling fully relaxed. I'm looking for tourney results of course, but i'm no longer comment them, good or bad. I know people are happy if they can do engines vs engines matches and i'm happy as well, because they are happy. (pretty easy, isn't it ?)

And i like the UEL work!


If you have interest on B22 thematic tournaments Tournois thématiques B22 in the UEL, if you have only interest on long time thematic tournaments Index de tous Les Tournois Thématiques
Thanks for the nice information!

I hope you understand me now :)

Best,
Daniel
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Daniel Mehrmann wrote: And i like the UEL work!
Yes - I enjoy following it too. :D
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Le Tournoi Thematique May 2007

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Daniel Mehrmann wrote:
However, i have no problem with Blitz tourneys at all. If Homer has only 2300 ELO in engine vs engine matches on blitz level it's true and okay.
Hi Daniel,

I propose for the thematic tournament of May (60'/40+30') to use Homer 2.0 and 5 engines published in 2007 classified better in the UEL that Homer 2.0:
Alaric 704
Delfi 5.1
Booot 4.13.1
Movei 0.08.403
Twisted Logic 0.085x3x1
Alfil 7.3
Hamsters 0.2
or updated version of this engines if necessary.

If you want, you can choose the opening or the position.

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Re: Le Tournoi Thematique May 2007

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Le Fou numerique wrote:
Daniel Mehrmann wrote:
However, i have no problem with Blitz tourneys at all. If Homer has only 2300 ELO in engine vs engine matches on blitz level it's true and okay.
Hi Daniel,

I propose for the thematic tournament of May (60'/40+30') to use Homer 2.0 and 5 engines published in 2007 classified better in the UEL that Homer 2.0:
Alaric 704
Delfi 5.1
Booot 4.13.1
Movei 0.08.403
Twisted Logic 0.085x3x1
Alfil 7.3
Hamsters 0.2
or updated version of this engines if necessary.

If you want, you can choose the opening or the position.

Regards,
Patrick
Hi Patrick !

Mmmmh, that would be not fair anyway.
First all other engines just doing these tournaments inside her divisions and this rule should be hold in any case. Means, if you wanna use Homer just start a MiniMe tourney.

I don't want to choose a opening. Its on you to do that. :D

But thanks for the great offer anyway :)

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Re: Le Tournoi Thematique May 2007

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Daniel Mehrmann wrote:
Hi Patrick !

Mmmmh, that would be not fair anyway.
First all other engines just doing these tournaments inside her divisions and this rule should be hold in any case. Means, if you wanna use Homer just start a MiniMe tourney.

I don't want to choose a opening. Its on you to do that. :D

But thanks for the great offer anyway :)

Best,
Daniel
Hi Daniel,

The LTT (Le Tournoi Thématique) is valided in the UEL only if the conditions are conform tio the rules of the UEL (6 engines from a Division, etc.)

But in the LTT, as you can see in the differents tournaments, there are also playing 'non-UCI' engines. In this case, the games on UCI engines aren't inclued in the base for the rating calculation.

It's not a problem to let play a tournament with 6 UCI engines outside of the UEL.

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Patrick
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Re: Le Tournoi Thematique May 2007

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Daniel Mehrmann wrote: I don't want to choose a opening. Its on you to do that. :D
Hi Daniel,

I choose the start position for the next LTT May 2007:

A40 English Defense
1.d4 e6 2.c4 b6 3.e4 Bb7 4.Nc3 Bb4 5.Bd3 f5

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My offer is still open.

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Le Fou numerique wrote:
Daniel Mehrmann wrote: I don't want to choose a opening. Its on you to do that. :D
Hi Daniel,

I choose the start position for the next LTT May 2007:

A40 English Defense
1.d4 e6 2.c4 b6 3.e4 Bb7 4.Nc3 Bb4 5.Bd3 f5

Image

My offer is still open.

Regards,
Patrick
Hi Patrick,

i don't understand your offer. If you wanna use Homer 2.0 for this tournament you can use Homer of course.
I would be the last men on this world which says no ;)

Best,
Daniel