I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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I defeated Sjeng 2.5

Post by Tony Thomas »

Just felt like messing with all of you, I defeated it at 1375 elo setting.
:lol:

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[Event "Fool's play"]
[Site "Grim's Den"]
[Date "3333.44.55"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Tony"]
[Black "Sjeng limit strength"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d4 Qa5 4. dxc5 Qxc5 5. Be3 Qb4 6. Rb1 b6 
7. Qe2 Ba6 8. Qd1 Bb7 9. Qd4 Bxe4 10. Qxb4 Bxb4 11. Bd2 Bxc2 12. Rc1 Bg6 
13. Nce2 Nc6 14. Rc3 Nd8 15. Rc4 Bc5 16. Bc3 d5 17. Bxg7 Bxf2+ 18. Kxf2 dxc4 
19. Bxh8 Bd3 20. Ke3 Nc6 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Ng3 Nge7 23. Bxd3 cxd3 24. Rd1 Nb4 
25. a3 Ned5+ 26. Kf2 Ke7 27. axb4 Rg8 28. Bc3 Nxc3 29. bxc3 d2 30. Rxd2 f5 
31. Nh5 a6 32. Ne5 Rd8 33. Rxd8 Kxd8 34. Ke3 a5 35. bxa5 bxa5 36. Nc4 a4 
37. Kd4 Ke7 38. Ke5 h6 39. Nf4 a3 40. Nxa3 h5 41. Nxh5 Kd7 42. c4 Ke7 
43. c5 Kd7 44. Nb5 Kc6 45. Kxe6 Kxb5 46. Kd6 Kc4 47. c6 Kd4 48. c7 Kc3 
49. c8=Q+ Kb4 50. Qxf5 Ka4 51. g4 Kb4 52. g5 Ka4 53. g6 Kb4 54. g7 Kb3 
55. g8=Q+ Ka3 56. Ng7 Ka4 57. h4 Ka3 58. h5 Ka4 59. h6 Ka3 60. Ne8 Ka4 
61. h7 Ka3 62. h8=Q Ka4 63. Qc4+ Ka3 64. Qhc3# 1-0
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Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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Tony Thomas wrote:Just felt like messing with all of you, I defeated it at 1375 elo setting.
:lol:

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[Event "Fool's play"]
[Site "Grim's Den"]
[Date "3333.44.55"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Tony"]
[Black "Sjeng limit strength"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d4 Qa5 4. dxc5 Qxc5 5. Be3 Qb4 6. Rb1 b6 
7. Qe2 Ba6 8. Qd1 Bb7 9. Qd4 Bxe4 10. Qxb4 Bxb4 11. Bd2 Bxc2 12. Rc1 Bg6 
13. Nce2 Nc6 14. Rc3 Nd8 15. Rc4 Bc5 16. Bc3 d5 17. Bxg7 Bxf2+ 18. Kxf2 dxc4 
19. Bxh8 Bd3 20. Ke3 Nc6 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Ng3 Nge7 23. Bxd3 cxd3 24. Rd1 Nb4 
25. a3 Ned5+ 26. Kf2 Ke7 27. axb4 Rg8 28. Bc3 Nxc3 29. bxc3 d2 30. Rxd2 f5 
31. Nh5 a6 32. Ne5 Rd8 33. Rxd8 Kxd8 34. Ke3 a5 35. bxa5 bxa5 36. Nc4 a4 
37. Kd4 Ke7 38. Ke5 h6 39. Nf4 a3 40. Nxa3 h5 41. Nxh5 Kd7 42. c4 Ke7 
43. c5 Kd7 44. Nb5 Kc6 45. Kxe6 Kxb5 46. Kd6 Kc4 47. c6 Kd4 48. c7 Kc3 
49. c8=Q+ Kb4 50. Qxf5 Ka4 51. g4 Kb4 52. g5 Ka4 53. g6 Kb4 54. g7 Kb3 
55. g8=Q+ Ka3 56. Ng7 Ka4 57. h4 Ka3 58. h5 Ka4 59. h6 Ka3 60. Ne8 Ka4 
61. h7 Ka3 62. h8=Q Ka4 63. Qc4+ Ka3 64. Qhc3# 1-0
Great game Tony. Keep up the good work. :) :) :)
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Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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Bravo Tony,you can climb the ladder step by step,just keep on playing....
BTW,climbing the ladder,watch out not to hit me high high up there :P

:wink:
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Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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...........Tony :?: :shock: :shock: :shock:

.............................Tony Thomas... :?: :?: :?:
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Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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Tony Thomas wrote:Just felt like messing with all of you, I defeated it at 1375 elo setting.
:lol:
....
[Black "Sjeng limit strength"]
[Result "1-0"]
.....
-> to go 1475! :o
Tony Thomas

Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Bravo Tony,you can climb the ladder step by step,just keep on playing....
BTW,climbing the ladder,watch out not to hit me high high up there :P

:wink:
Wael, I will be sure to use another ladder. Did you notice that I had two queens and a rook during the endgame? By the way, I lost the two games after that.
Tony Thomas

Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

Post by Tony Thomas »

Another one against 1401. :lol:

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[Event "Booya"]
[Site "Grim's Den"]
[Date "5555.11.22"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Tony Thomas"]
[Black "Sjeng handicap mode"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d4 Nc6 4. dxc5 Bxc5 5. Be3 Bxe3 6. fxe3 Qg5 
7. Qf3 Nf6 8. Qf4 Qxf4 9. exf4 Nb4 10. Rc1 d6 11. a3 Nxc2+ 12. Rxc2 Bd7 
13. Bb5 Bxb5 14. Nxb5 Rd8 15. Nxa7 Nxe4 16. Nb5 d5 17. Nc3 Nxc3 18. Rxc3 g5 
19. fxg5 Rg8 20. h4 f6 21. Rg3 Rc8 22. Kf2 Rc2+ 23. Kf3 fxg5 24. Rxg5 Rxg5 
25. hxg5 Rxb2 26. Rxh7 Ra2 27. g6 Rxa3+ 28. Kf4 b5 29. g7 Kf7 30. Kg5 Ra2 
31. Kh6 Rxg2 32. Nf3 Rg3 33. Ng5+ Rxg5 34. Kxg5 Kg8 35. Kh6 Kf7 36. Rh8 Ke7 
37. g8=Q e5 38. Qe8+ Kd6 39. Qd8+ Kc5 40. Rf8 d4 41. Rf5 b4 42. Rxe5+ Kc6 
43. Re6+ Kb5 44. Qd5+ Ka4 45. Qxd4 Kb5 46. Re5+ Ka6 47. Qd6+ Kb7 48. Re7+ Ka8 
49. Qd8# 1-0
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Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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Tony Thomas wrote:Just felt like messing with all of you, I defeated it at 1375 elo setting.
:lol:

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[Event "Fool's play"]
[Site "Grim's Den"]
[Date "3333.44.55"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Tony"]
[Black "Sjeng limit strength"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d4 Qa5 4. dxc5 Qxc5 5. Be3 Qb4 6. Rb1 b6 
7. Qe2 Ba6 8. Qd1 Bb7 9. Qd4 Bxe4 10. Qxb4 Bxb4 11. Bd2 Bxc2 12. Rc1 Bg6 
13. Nce2 Nc6 14. Rc3 Nd8 15. Rc4 Bc5 16. Bc3 d5 17. Bxg7 Bxf2+ 18. Kxf2 dxc4 
19. Bxh8 Bd3 20. Ke3 Nc6 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Ng3 Nge7 23. Bxd3 cxd3 24. Rd1 Nb4 
25. a3 Ned5+ 26. Kf2 Ke7 27. axb4 Rg8 28. Bc3 Nxc3 29. bxc3 d2 30. Rxd2 f5 
31. Nh5 a6 32. Ne5 Rd8 33. Rxd8 Kxd8 34. Ke3 a5 35. bxa5 bxa5 36. Nc4 a4 
37. Kd4 Ke7 38. Ke5 h6 39. Nf4 a3 40. Nxa3 h5 41. Nxh5 Kd7 42. c4 Ke7 
43. c5 Kd7 44. Nb5 Kc6 45. Kxe6 Kxb5 46. Kd6 Kc4 47. c6 Kd4 48. c7 Kc3 
49. c8=Q+ Kb4 50. Qxf5 Ka4 51. g4 Kb4 52. g5 Ka4 53. g6 Kb4 54. g7 Kb3 
55. g8=Q+ Ka3 56. Ng7 Ka4 57. h4 Ka3 58. h5 Ka4 59. h6 Ka3 60. Ne8 Ka4 
61. h7 Ka3 62. h8=Q Ka4 63. Qc4+ Ka3 64. Qhc3# 1-0

1)I do not understand 7.Qe2
You should develop the bishop and the queen at e2 blocks the bishop f1

2)Why not 10.Qxe4 that wins a piece?
Were you afraid of 10...Qxe4 when you did not see that the knight is not pinned after that move or maybe you planned 10.Qxb4 Bxb4 11.Nxe4 when you did not see that 11.Nxe4 is illegal because the knight is pinned after 10...Bxb4

3)Why 13.Nce2?
It is better to play 13.Nb5 that threat 14.Nc7+
13.Nce2 blocks the bishop so it prevents you to develop your pieces

4)Why 14.Rc3 that sacrifices the rook?
Did you think later to play Bxg7
Maybe it can works against a weak player but if you want to learn to play better it is better not to assume stupid blunders of the opponent.

5)Why 17.Bxg7?
It was better to play first 17.Rxc5 so at least you get a bishop for the rook c4 inspite of the fact that your opponent insisted that you get that bishop by playing Bxf2+ for no logical reason

Based on this game my estimate is that the rating of the players was lower than 1375.

I saw games of players with rating 1300-1400 and their level is higher than it.

Uri
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Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

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Tony Thomas wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Bravo Tony,you can climb the ladder step by step,just keep on playing....
BTW,climbing the ladder,watch out not to hit me high high up there :P

:wink:
Wael, I will be sure to use another ladder. Did you notice that I had two queens and a rook during the endgame? By the way, I lost the two games after that.
<Dr.Deeb in Benedicto mode>

W'tz up Tony :!: :?: :D :shock: 8-)


..................................cooool play :D :) :shock: 8-) :lol: :wink: :lol:


hehehehe,Tony Thomas rulz baby :P 8-) :) :D


:wink:
<Dr.Deeb out of Benedicto mode>

:P
Last edited by Dr.Wael Deeb on Sat May 26, 2007 7:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: I defeated Sjeng 2.5

Post by Uri Blass »

Tony Thomas wrote:Another one against 1401. :lol:

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&#91;Event "Booya"&#93;
&#91;Site "Grim's Den"&#93;
&#91;Date "5555.11.22"&#93;
&#91;Round "2"&#93;
&#91;White "Tony Thomas"&#93;
&#91;Black "Sjeng handicap mode"&#93;
&#91;Result "1-0"&#93;

1. e4 e6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d4 Nc6 4. dxc5 Bxc5 5. Be3 Bxe3 6. fxe3 Qg5 
7. Qf3 Nf6 8. Qf4 Qxf4 9. exf4 Nb4 10. Rc1 d6 11. a3 Nxc2+ 12. Rxc2 Bd7 
13. Bb5 Bxb5 14. Nxb5 Rd8 15. Nxa7 Nxe4 16. Nb5 d5 17. Nc3 Nxc3 18. Rxc3 g5 
19. fxg5 Rg8 20. h4 f6 21. Rg3 Rc8 22. Kf2 Rc2+ 23. Kf3 fxg5 24. Rxg5 Rxg5 
25. hxg5 Rxb2 26. Rxh7 Ra2 27. g6 Rxa3+ 28. Kf4 b5 29. g7 Kf7 30. Kg5 Ra2 
31. Kh6 Rxg2 32. Nf3 Rg3 33. Ng5+ Rxg5 34. Kxg5 Kg8 35. Kh6 Kf7 36. Rh8 Ke7 
37. g8=Q e5 38. Qe8+ Kd6 39. Qd8+ Kc5 40. Rf8 d4 41. Rf5 b4 42. Rxe5+ Kc6 
43. Re6+ Kb5 44. Qd5+ Ka4 45. Qxd4 Kb5 46. Re5+ Ka6 47. Qd6+ Kb7 48. Re7+ Ka8 
49. Qd8# 1-0
Something is clearly broken in Deep Sjeng handicap mode because no player at level of 1401 will play moves like 11...Nxc2+

It is possible to simulate 1401 level of playing strength by making that blunder and playing later like a strong player(playing like 1700 player after blundering a piece is enough and you do not need to play like a GM) but deep sjeng does not do it and it continues to blunder also later when it miss a draw against you.

32...Kf6 could be enough for a draw after you blundered by 29.g7 and 30.Kg5
29.Rh8+ was a simple win for white and there are more blunders by both sides that I do not mention here.

Uri