Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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Rybka will play the same formula with the same time control as their human colleagues Anand, Kasimdzhanov, Aronian and Bacrot in the human top event: a double round-robin, followed by a final on the last day

It would be great if the winner's program play at least 3 games with the human that win the event :roll:
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Re: Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
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Re: Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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Dirt wrote:
pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
Agreed.Question is if it can beat any of these GM's with only rook pawn odd.
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swami wrote:
Dirt wrote:
pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
Agreed.Question is if it can beat any of these GM's with only rook pawn odd.

My pawnpusher friend, Anand would even take Rybka apart in a game of 25 minutes per side in normal chess without any odd. Just because Rybka performance against other chess programs has been excellent, it has never played the best blitz human player in the world.
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Re: Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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pichy wrote:
swami wrote:
Dirt wrote:
pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
Agreed.Question is if it can beat any of these GM's with only rook pawn odd.
My pawnpusher friend, Anand would even take Rybka apart in a game of 25 minutes per side in normal chess without any odd. Just because Rybka performance against other chess programs has been excellent, it has never played the best blitz human player in the world.
my patzer friend,Whatever,but that's your opinion :)
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Re: Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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swami wrote:
pichy wrote:
swami wrote:
Dirt wrote:
pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
Agreed.Question is if it can beat any of these GM's with only rook pawn odd.
My pawnpusher friend, Anand would even take Rybka apart in a game of 25 minutes per side in normal chess without any odd. Just because Rybka performance against other chess programs has been excellent, it has never played the best blitz human player in the world.
my patzer friend,Whatever,but that's your opinion :)
What make you think that Rybka is so powerful to be able to beat Anand with a rook pawn odd? Are you out off your logical mind :?:
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Re: Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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swami wrote:
pichy wrote:
swami wrote:
Dirt wrote:
pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
Agreed.Question is if it can beat any of these GM's with only rook pawn odd.
My chess enthusiast friend, Anand would even take Rybka apart in a game of 25 minutes per side in normal chess without any odd. Just because Rybka performance against other chess programs has been excellent, it has never played the best blitz human player in the world.
My patzer friend,Whatever,but that's your opinion :)
PS: I also wish to the Rybka team luck against Joel Benjamin playing vs Rybka with a pawn odd, since Rybka is considered to be much stronger than Deeper Blue and Joel had an excellent 2-0 record against Deep Blue; and Benjamin was one of the key GM in tunning Deeper Blue versus Kasparov. Anyway in my opinion Anand is a much better player than Joel at any given time control and should score better than against Rybka :wink:

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=1715
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Re: Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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pichy wrote:
swami wrote:
pichy wrote:
swami wrote:
Dirt wrote:
pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
Agreed.Question is if it can beat any of these GM's with only rook pawn odd.
My chess enthusiast friend, Anand would even take Rybka apart in a game of 25 minutes per side in normal chess without any odd. Just because Rybka performance against other chess programs has been excellent, it has never played the best blitz human player in the world.
My patzer friend,Whatever,but that's your opinion :)
PS: I also wish to the Rybka team luck against Joel Benjamin playing vs Rybka with a pawn odd, since Rybka is considered to be much stronger than Deeper Blue and Joel had an excellent 2-0 record against Deep Blue; and Benjamin was one of the key GM in tunning Deeper Blue versus Kasparov. Anyway in my opinion Anand is a much better player than Joel at any given time control and should score better than against Rybka :wink:

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=1715
This is a pure speculation about Anand,the guy was sweaped away by the old program Rebel a long time ago 8-)
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Re: Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?

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pichy wrote:
swami wrote:
pichy wrote:
swami wrote:
Dirt wrote:
pichy wrote:Can Rybka beat Aronian or Anand at this time control ?
In FRC? Easily. Unlike normal chess, I think Rybka could give draw odds and still be a heavy favorite. The novel positions will hurt the GMs more than Rybka.
Agreed.Question is if it can beat any of these GM's with only rook pawn odd.
My chess enthusiast friend, Anand would even take Rybka apart in a game of 25 minutes per side in normal chess without any odd. Just because Rybka performance against other chess programs has been excellent, it has never played the best blitz human player in the world.
My patzer friend,Whatever,but that's your opinion :)
PS: I also wish to the Rybka team luck against Joel Benjamin playing vs Rybka with a pawn odd, since Rybka is considered to be much stronger than Deeper Blue and Joel had an excellent 2-0 record against Deep Blue; and Benjamin was one of the key GM in tunning Deeper Blue versus Kasparov. Anyway in my opinion Anand is a much better player than Joel at any given time control and should score better than against Rybka :wink:

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=1715
Whatever,Jorge but you slightly underestimate the strength of Rybka, Hydra did crush Adams by 5.5-0.5,Adams is almost equal to Anand and without the pawn odd there is a good chance that Rybka would defeat Anand and with the pawn odd,the game would be interesting and i bet the score would be equal.

and by the way,Even Fritz which is 300 elo lesser than Rybka can defeat Kramnik in normal chess.