Are dead The Leton gambit ? this q. is 4u Dr. Wael

[ArmyBridge]

Dr. Wael, what dou you think about the leton gambit?,is it unsound? I read in several page that discussion... in Human level seems like the leton gambit is a bad opening (atleast for black ) and is very rare see this opening in Comp. Chess, let me know u opinion
REgards

[ArmyBridge]

ups!! I wrote wrong the name, I mean Latvian gambit

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Dr. Wael, what dou you think about the leton gambit?,is it unsound? I read in several page that discussion... in Human level seems like the leton gambit is a bad opening (atleast for black ) and is very rare see this opening in Comp. Chess, let me know u opinion
REgards

There is no doubt that this opening is bad for black when playing eng-eng matchs,I've tried several times to find and tune particular opening lines which at least will equalize the black position,but with no sign of success
OTOH,in human tournaments you can use it against equal or weaker opponents as a surprise and you can gain success.....

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

ups!! I wrote wrong the name, I mean Latvian gambit

No problem,I understood what you mean

[Harvey Williamson]

Dr. Wael, what dou you think about the leton gambit?,is it unsound? I read in several page that discussion... in Human level seems like the leton gambit is a bad opening (atleast for black ) and is very rare see this opening in Comp. Chess, let me know u opinion
REgards

There is no doubt that this opening is bad for black when playing eng-eng matchs,I've tried several times to find and tune particular opening lines which at least will equalize the black position,but with no sign of success
OTOH,in human tournaments you can use it against equal or weaker opponents as a surprise and you can gain success.....

You might like this from a recent postal game of mine. It is a no draw knockout competition so a draw and both players go out.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.d4 d6
5.Nc4
fxe4 6. Nc3 Qg6 7. f3 Be7 8.fxe4 Nh6 9. Bxh6
Qxh6
10.g3 0-0 11. Bg2 Nc6 12.a3 b5 13.d5 bxc4
14.dxc6
Rb8 15. Rb1?? Qe3+!! 16.Ne2 Qf2+ 17.Kd2 Bg5 18.Kc3
Qe3 19. resign 0-1

Well played. I am afraid 15.Rb1? meant doom for me and
I can see no escape. (A comment from my opponent)

In Kosten's book on the Latvian he gives 7...Be7 as?! but I quite liked this combined with Nh6 and 0-0 giving the open f file to the Rook.

Best Wishes,

Harvey

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Dr. Wael, what dou you think about the leton gambit?,is it unsound? I read in several page that discussion... in Human level seems like the leton gambit is a bad opening (atleast for black ) and is very rare see this opening in Comp. Chess, let me know u opinion
REgards

There is no doubt that this opening is bad for black when playing eng-eng matchs,I've tried several times to find and tune particular opening lines which at least will equalize the black position,but with no sign of success
OTOH,in human tournaments you can use it against equal or weaker opponents as a surprise and you can gain success.....

You might like this from a recent postal game of mine. It is a no draw knockout competition so a draw and both players go out.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.d4 d6
5.Nc4
fxe4 6. Nc3 Qg6 7. f3 Be7 8.fxe4 Nh6 9. Bxh6
Qxh6
10.g3 0-0 11. Bg2 Nc6 12.a3 b5 13.d5 bxc4
14.dxc6
Rb8 15. Rb1 Qe3+ 16.Ne2 Qf2+ 17.Kd2 Bg5 18.Kc3
Qe3 19. resign 0-1

Well played. I am afraid 15.Rb1? meant doom for me and
I can see no escape. (A comment from my opponent)

In Kosten's book on the Latvian he gives 7...Be7 as?! but I quite liked this combined with Nh6 and 0-0 giving the open f file to the Rook.

Best Wishes,

Harvey

Wow,thanks Harvey for the nice game,this game proves my theory regarding using this opening against humans

[ArmyBridge]

I like this kind of wild openings, by the way what about the traxler defense?? also is rare see this in eng-eng matchs and I think that it is a very nice weapon for black

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I like this kind of wild openings, by the way what about the traxler defense?? also is rare see this in eng-eng matchs and I think that it is a very nice weapon for black

Now the traxler defence is too complicated even for a professor in the opening theory like myself

[ArmyBridge]

I´ll looking for it in my database's and hope find somes game s

[AdminX]

Dr. Wael, what dou you think about the leton gambit?,is it unsound? I read in several page that discussion... in Human level seems like the leton gambit is a bad opening (atleast for black ) and is very rare see this opening in Comp. Chess, let me know u opinion
REgards

There is no doubt that this opening is bad for black when playing eng-eng matchs,I've tried several times to find and tune particular opening lines which at least will equalize the black position,but with no sign of success
OTOH,in human tournaments you can use it against equal or weaker opponents as a surprise and you can gain success.....

You might like this from a recent postal game of mine. It is a no draw knockout competition so a draw and both players go out.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.d4 d6
5.Nc4
fxe4 6. Nc3 Qg6 7. f3 Be7 8.fxe4 Nh6 9. Bxh6
Qxh6
10.g3 0-0 11. Bg2 Nc6 12.a3 b5 13.d5 bxc4
14.dxc6
Rb8 15. Rb1?? Qe3+!! 16.Ne2 Qf2+ 17.Kd2 Bg5 18.Kc3
Qe3 19. resign 0-1

Well played. I am afraid 15.Rb1? meant doom for me and
I can see no escape. (A comment from my opponent)

In Kosten's book on the Latvian he gives 7...Be7 as?! but I quite liked this combined with Nh6 and 0-0 giving the open f file to the Rook.

Best Wishes,

Harvey

Wow Harvey,

While I'm not an opening expert like yourself. I think White's plan of g3 and Bg2 was a little to slow in a opening that looks more about "Tempi" and "Development". White fell very behind in time (Tempi) to counter blacks coming attacks. You are right however when you state that Rb1 was the big mistake.