Moderators Elections- Be Careful What You Wish For!

[geots]

I would be willing to bet that Graham Banks has either edited, locked or deleted more of my threads than anyone elses. I dont have a problem with any of the methods, and i doubt seriously more than a few people do. And if you found 3 people who disagreed with Graham, at least 2 of them would have other agendas they were trying to further. It wasnt long ago i remember Bob Hyatt accusing Steve B. of spamming the forum with his "dedicated" posts. Bob even made the statement that if he had his way the "dedicated" posts would go, the so-called "basement tournament" results ( his words, not mine) would go, and this forum would go back to the programmers. And he was still a mod. at the time. And Graham stood up for Steve B., saying he had just as much right to his computer posts as anyone. Some people have a short memory. I would be much less concerned about how someone handled offensive posts than i would someone who wanted this forum named after him.




Regards, I think

[Graham Banks]

Hi George,

I think that's a bit harsh on Bob.
As a founding member, Bob has his views on what CCC should be like and he's entitled to his opinion, just like anybody else.

Regards, Graham.

[geots]

Hi George,

I think that's a bit harsh on Bob.
As a founding member, Bob has his views on what CCC should be like and he's entitled to his opinion, just like anybody else.

Regards, Graham.

I think all the members are entitled to the truth. I wouldnt have brought it up, except that he was so adamant about your so-called faults. I have not one thing ag. Bob, but if you were to ask him, he would tell you that the forum , if he had his choice, would be given soley back to the programmers. He has said that more than once. Unless he has changed his mind, i think all forum members have the right to know that.

Regards to You Also

[geots]

If Bob happens to read this, i want him to know that i have respect for him. He has probably done as much for computer chess (maybe more) than anyone alive. And i have nothing in the world ag. him. But that doesnt mean we have to agree on everything.

Regards, Bob

[swami]

I think that's a bit harsh on Bob.

Yes, Warn him "Be careful who you are talking to (or about)"

[swami]

I think that's a bit harsh on Bob.

Yes, Warn him "Be careful who you are talking to (or about)"

It seems no one was able to get the joke

I used Tony's signature when George posted Mark Boylan's signature that reads "Be careful what you wish for" in the title.

[bob]

I would be willing to bet that Graham Banks has either edited, locked or deleted more of my threads than anyone elses. I dont have a problem with any of the methods, and i doubt seriously more than a few people do. And if you found 3 people who disagreed with Graham, at least 2 of them would have other agendas they were trying to further. It wasnt long ago i remember Bob Hyatt accusing Steve B. of spamming the forum with his "dedicated" posts. Bob even made the statement that if he had his way the "dedicated" posts would go, the so-called "basement tournament" results ( his words, not mine) would go, and this forum would go back to the programmers. And he was still a mod. at the time. And Graham stood up for Steve B., saying he had just as much right to his computer posts as anyone. Some people have a short memory. I would be much less concerned about how someone handled offensive posts than i would someone who wanted this forum named after him.




Regards, I think

I don't know what your problem is, and I don't intend to take up psychiatry to figure it out.

The forum was split exactly as I (and others) thought it should be, so that there are general topics, tournaments, and programming divisions. You seem to think that was a bad thing. Editing posts is a poor practice, it is not accepted _anywhere_ that I know of, for reasons that are obvious to those willing to give it some serious thought...

Most of my posting stays in the programming forum, and I plan on keeping it that way. I don't post in the tournament section very much at all, and also am an infrequent poster in the general discussion section except when an occasional programming-related discussion fires up there.

I suggest that you post what you want, and quit worrying about what _my_ motives might be. You are very poor and figuring that out, I can tell you. So maybe it is time for you to worry more about yourself, and less about me, and move on to something productive. You don't want me for a moderator, don't vote for me. If I choose to run and get elected, you can either deal with it or move on yourself. We _all_ have choices we can make. But you won't be making any choices for _me_. And I wouldn't consider trying to make any choices for you.

[bob]

Hi George,

I think that's a bit harsh on Bob.
As a founding member, Bob has his views on what CCC should be like and he's entitled to his opinion, just like anybody else.

Regards, Graham.

I think all the members are entitled to the truth. I wouldnt have brought it up, except that he was so adamant about your so-called faults. I have not one thing ag. Bob, but if you were to ask him, he would tell you that the forum , if he had his choice, would be given soley back to the programmers. He has said that more than once. Unless he has changed his mind, i think all forum members have the right to know that.

Regards to You Also

Just goes to show how little you know. The "programmer's section" is exactly what I thought we needed. The "programmers" out there agreed and we have what we want. You want tournament discussions, so far as I know you have exactly that in the tournament section. I visit the area I want to read, you can do the same. Stop trying to make this into what you want, when _we_ have done as much as possible now to make it into what everyone wants.

I would have been just as happy with a programmer's only forum, which is what CCC was originally designed to be. It diverged from that too far for some of us, and the split repaired the fault. I don't care about all the meaningless tournaments that are run in everyone's basement. I don't care about the rating lists. I don't care about collecting old dedicated units. I care about the art of computer chess programming. I'm not going to change. So stop trying to paint that as a bad thing, just because _you_ are not a chess programmer and perhaps feel somehow left out.

[geots]

Hi George,

I think that's a bit harsh on Bob.
As a founding member, Bob has his views on what CCC should be like and he's entitled to his opinion, just like anybody else.

Regards, Graham.

I think all the members are entitled to the truth. I wouldnt have brought it up, except that he was so adamant about your so-called faults. I have not one thing ag. Bob, but if you were to ask him, he would tell you that the forum , if he had his choice, would be given soley back to the programmers. He has said that more than once. Unless he has changed his mind, i think all forum members have the right to know that.

Regards to You Also

Just goes to show how little you know. The "programmer's section" is exactly what I thought we needed. The "programmers" out there agreed and we have what we want. You want tournament discussions, so far as I know you have exactly that in the tournament section. I visit the area I want to read, you can do the same. Stop trying to make this into what you want, when _we_ have done as much as possible now to make it into what everyone wants.

I would have been just as happy with a programmer's only forum, which is what CCC was originally designed to be. It diverged from that too far for some of us, and the split repaired the fault. I don't care about all the meaningless tournaments that are run in everyone's basement. I don't care about the rating lists. I don't care about collecting old dedicated units. I care about the art of computer chess programming. I'm not going to change. So stop trying to paint that as a bad thing, just because _you_ are not a chess programmer and perhaps feel somehow left out.

Bob, if i read things wrong, i certainly apologize. I have great respect for you and your work. Jesus, you are a pioneer in this field. I certainly like the idea of a programmers subforum. I wish i knew enough to contribute there, but sadly i never will. Nothing would make me happier than for us to be able to get along.

Regards and respect to you,

George

[geots]

I would be willing to bet that Graham Banks has either edited, locked or deleted more of my threads than anyone elses. I dont have a problem with any of the methods, and i doubt seriously more than a few people do. And if you found 3 people who disagreed with Graham, at least 2 of them would have other agendas they were trying to further. It wasnt long ago i remember Bob Hyatt accusing Steve B. of spamming the forum with his "dedicated" posts. Bob even made the statement that if he had his way the "dedicated" posts would go, the so-called "basement tournament" results ( his words, not mine) would go, and this forum would go back to the programmers. And he was still a mod. at the time. And Graham stood up for Steve B., saying he had just as much right to his computer posts as anyone. Some people have a short memory. I would be much less concerned about how someone handled offensive posts than i would someone who wanted this forum named after him.




Regards, I think

I don't know what your problem is, and I don't intend to take up psychiatry to figure it out.

The forum was split exactly as I (and others) thought it should be, so that there are general topics, tournaments, and programming divisions. You seem to think that was a bad thing. Editing posts is a poor practice, it is not accepted _anywhere_ that I know of, for reasons that are obvious to those willing to give it some serious thought...

Most of my posting stays in the programming forum, and I plan on keeping it that way. I don't post in the tournament section very much at all, and also am an infrequent poster in the general discussion section except when an occasional programming-related discussion fires up there.

I suggest that you post what you want, and quit worrying about what _my_ motives might be. You are very poor and figuring that out, I can tell you. So maybe it is time for you to worry more about yourself, and less about me, and move on to something productive. You don't want me for a moderator, don't vote for me. If I choose to run and get elected, you can either deal with it or move on yourself. We _all_ have choices we can make. But you won't be making any choices for _me_. And I wouldn't consider trying to make any choices for you.

Psychiatric problems i have, huh. A little bit of a cheap shot, i would think. Oh well, life on the internet. No big deal. Even still, i offer you my hand in friendship and ask that we let the past stay where it should, in the past. If you are not so inclined, i suppose life will go on.

Best to you