I can´t belive it ..

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ArmyBridge

I can´t belive it ..

Post by ArmyBridge »

The match between Deep Shedder 11 x64 4CPU vs Rybka 2.3.2a 64 4CPU of CEGT finished (50 games) and Shredder only get 1 win!!!!, the gap between Rybka and other engine is huge and I think that wolud be more interesting run some match in odds or let Rybka play the Halloween attack and see what happen, would be a knight too much odd? or Rybka would hold the position (as white of curse), I hope someone run it. 8-)
Gandalf

Re: I can´t belive it ..

Post by Gandalf »

The Halloween Gambit is actually pretty solid, so I'm sure Rybka would still be playing competitively if not still dominating.

Here's some Rybka analysis after Nxe5:

5.d2-d4 Ne5-c6 6.d4-d5 Nc6-e5 7.f2-f4 Ne5-g6 8.e4-e5 Nf6-g8 9.Bf1-e2 Bf8-c5 10.Nc3-a4 Qd8-e7 11.h2-h4 h7-h5
³ (-0.42) Depth: 18 00:00:01 155kN
5.d2-d4 Ne5-c6 6.d4-d5 Nc6-e5 7.f2-f4 Ne5-g6 8.e4-e5 Nf6-g8 9.Bf1-e2 Bf8-c5 10.Nc3-a4 Qd8-e7 11.h2-h4 h7-h5
³ (-0.50) Depth: 19 00:02:11 13909kN

If you include some main lines in the opening book, it would be even closer.
Tony Thomas

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Post by Tony Thomas »

In 4 CPU matches Rybka does have a close opponent, namely Zappa. Currently the closest rival to Rybka in single CPU category is Shredder 11, and it is known that Shredder doesnt scale as well as Zappa or Rybka.
ArmyBridge

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Post by ArmyBridge »

Gandalf wrote:The Halloween Gambit is actually pretty solid, so I'm sure Rybka would still be playing competitively if not still dominating.

Here's some Rybka analysis after Nxe5:

5.d2-d4 Ne5-c6 6.d4-d5 Nc6-e5 7.f2-f4 Ne5-g6 8.e4-e5 Nf6-g8 9.Bf1-e2 Bf8-c5 10.Nc3-a4 Qd8-e7 11.h2-h4 h7-h5
³ (-0.42) Depth: 18 00:00:01 155kN
5.d2-d4 Ne5-c6 6.d4-d5 Nc6-e5 7.f2-f4 Ne5-g6 8.e4-e5 Nf6-g8 9.Bf1-e2 Bf8-c5 10.Nc3-a4 Qd8-e7 11.h2-h4 h7-h5
³ (-0.50) Depth: 19 00:02:11 13909kN

If you include some main lines in the opening book, it would be even closer.
I´ve search in my database and 5. ..Nc6 look very bad for black´s, White score above 60% against this variation, maybe 5. ..Ng6 is better,
ArmyBridge

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Post by ArmyBridge »

Tony Thomas wrote:In 4 CPU matches Rybka does have a close opponent, namely Zappa. Currently the closest rival to Rybka in single CPU category is Shredder 11, and it is known that Shredder doesnt scale as well as Zappa or Rybka.
mmmmm.... In CEGT 40/120 4CPU Rybka beat Zappa 31-19 and beat Zappa again 38-20 in 40/20, as you see Rybka smash Zappa, maybe with own book´s Zappa would do better... in 8cpu Zappa get close Rybka but... :roll: I hope Fritz 11 hold Rybka... or Hiarcs 12.....Junior 11 too?, I´m star get crazy :lol: :shock: :wink:
Nid Hogge

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Post by Nid Hogge »

ArmyBridge wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:In 4 CPU matches Rybka does have a close opponent, namely Zappa. Currently the closest rival to Rybka in single CPU category is Shredder 11, and it is known that Shredder doesnt scale as well as Zappa or Rybka.
mmmmm.... In CEGT 40/120 4CPU Rybka beat Zappa 31-19 and beat Zappa again 38-20 in 40/20, as you see Rybka smash Zappa, maybe with own book´s Zappa would do better... in 8cpu Zappa get close Rybka but... :roll: I hope Fritz 11 hold Rybka... or Hiarcs 12.....Junior 11 too?, I´m star get crazy :lol: :shock: :wink:
Here's hoping but... I really cant see it happens. it would take a huge gain in most programs of todays to get an equal score with Rybka in a long match and that really does not happen alot(How many times did it happen before Rybka?).

Fritz 11 was marketed with 80 elo improvment so I dont think its going to touch it.

Hiarcs should get better scores but I doube it will equalise.

Best hope is Zappa if it ever gets an update again.
Tony Thomas

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Post by Tony Thomas »

Chuck Norris can believe it.
Nid Hogge

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Post by Nid Hogge »

Tony Thomas wrote:Chuck Norris can believe it.
Then again.. Chuck Norris is about 8000 Elo*

* On a bad day.
nczempin

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Post by nczempin »

Nid Hogge wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:Chuck Norris can believe it.
Then again.. Chuck Norris is about 8000 Elo*

* On a bad day.
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Re: I can´t belive it ..

Post by Michael Sherwin »

nczempin wrote:
Nid Hogge wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:Chuck Norris can believe it.
Then again.. Chuck Norris is about 8000 Elo*

* On a bad day.
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