How do I - create a Shredder Book?

[Shaun]

Sorry new to Shredder...

Any help greatfully received.

I have just tried to create a book using Deep Shredder 11.

I started with the database GrandNd (thanks Norm)

In Shredder from the Extra Menu

Opening Book -> New Opening book

I called it GenericNP

I then Loaded this empty book

Opening Book -> Load Opening book

Imported the games

Opening Book -> Import Games

Selected the database

Pressed the Import button

Import Statistics checked

Absolute Length set to 24 plies

Pressed the OK button - it took a while about 50 thousand games loaded sucessfully however... I don't have any stats/weightings for number of games or results???

e.g. The probability is set 7.1% for all moves from the opening position.

I tried again (new book) this time with Import Lines selected in case I misread the help.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance

Shaun

[Shaun]

Bump...

No Shredder book experts???

Or am I not making sence...

[Oscar L]

Hi

I did what you said with the last convekta games pack:

http://chessok.com/pgn/November_1.zip

And I got a book with different probs., for example e4 44.3%, d4 39.9%,...

Have you tried with another pgn?

Besides with right click on the opening books, then book options. Is use statistics checked? if uncheck, then every move is 0% of course, but no 7,1%

[Shaun]

Thanks Oscar,

yes with that PGN I get the same result as you ?!?!?

I took just the first few thousand games of GrandNd and it did not work???

game from the November file

[Event "Ch Europe (blitz)"]
[Site "Ajaccio (France)"]
[Date "2007.10.25"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Bacrot Etienne (FRA)"]
[Black "Garro Pierre (FRA)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E60"]
[WhiteElo "2695"]
[BlackElo "2167"]
[ID ""]
[FileName ""]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]
[Remark ""]

1.d4 g6 2.Nf3 Bg7 3.c4 Nf6 4.g3 O-O 5.Bg2 Ng4 6.Nc3 Bf6 7.O-O
Nh6 8.Bxh6 Bg5 9.Bxf8 a5 10.Nxg5 f6 11.Bh6 e6 12.e4 f5 13.exf5
gxf5 14.Qh5 Ra6 15.Qf7+ Kh8 16.Bg7# 1-0

and from GrandNd

[Event "Buenos Aires"]
[Site "Buenos Aires"]
[Date "1960.07.08"]
[Round "12"]
[White "Eliskases, Erich G"]
[Black "Reshevsky, Samuel H"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A37f"]

1. c4 g6 2. Nc3 Bg7 3. g3 c5 4. Bg2 Nc6 5. d3 d6 6. Nf3 Rb8 7. O-O a6
8. Ne1 Bd7 9. Rb1 b5 10. Bd2 b4 11. Ne4 Nh6 12. f4 Ng4 13. e3 O-O
14. Nf3 f5 15. Nf2 Nxf2 16. Rxf2 h6 17. b3 e5 18. Bc1 Qe7 19. Bb2 Kh7
20. d4 e4 21. Ne1 Rbd8 22. d5 Nb8 23. Qd2 Be8 24. Bxg7 Qxg7 25. Qb2 Rf7
26. Qxg7+ Kxg7 27. a4 Nd7 28. Bf1 a5 29. Be2 Nf6 30. Ng2 Bd7 31. h4 Rg8
32. Rff1 Kf8 33. Kf2 Rfg7 34. Rh1 Be8 35. Rh3 Ke7 36. Rbh1 Bf7 37. Rd1 Kd8
38. Ne1 Kc7 39. Ng2 Be8 40. Ra1 Bd7 41. Ne1 Kd8 42. Ng2 Rh7 43. Rah1 Ke7
44. Ra1 1/2-1/2

Confused

Shaun

[Shaun]

It's not the size I tried a very small selection Shredder does not seem to like the GrandNd database?

Shaun

[Oscar L]

Is this GrandNd database downloadable from any site?

[Oscar L]

By the way what is that ECO A37f, is that "f" normal? This can be the cause of the problem

[Shaun]

Is this GrandNd database downloadable from any site?

Hi again

Yes here

http://hoflink.com/~npollock/chess.html

Shaun

[Shaun]

By the way what is that ECO A37f, is that "f" normal? This can be the cause of the problem

Hi again

I am going to try and have a play with the PGN

If I find anything I will post

Shaun

[Oscar L]

I see that all or a lot of games in the database have a lower case letter after the ECO code, D14c, B16d,... AFAIK the ECO code is just a capital letter and two numbers, so perhaps Shredder does not recognize the code and so can not generate the probs.