Is there a convincing solution for Arasan 7.17?

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Is there a convincing solution for Arasan 7.17?

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[d]8/2N5/6p1/1p5p/pPk4P/P5P1/3K2b1/8 b - - bm Bc6; id "arasan7.17";

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24) Bc6; id "arasan7.17 
    Searching move: Bg2-c6
    Best move (Rybka v1.2.w32): Bg2-f1
    Not found in: 2:30:00
      2	00:00	         176	180.224	+0.17	Bg2c6
      3	00:00	         312	319.488	+0.27	Bg2c6
      4	00:00	         824	843.776	+0.07	Bg2c6 Nc7e6
      4	00:00	       1.160	1.187.840	+0.09	Bg2h3 Kd2e3
      4	00:00	       1.760	1.802.240	+0.11	Bg2f1 Kd2e1
      5	00:00	       2.208	2.260.992	+0.27	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3
      6	00:00	       2.984	3.055.616	+0.15	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2
      7	00:00	       6.400	385.505	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7
      8	00:00	       8.040	484.291	+0.17	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7 Nc7a6
      9	00:00	      11.624	360.696	+0.25	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7 Nc7a6 Kc4d4
     10	00:00	      16.720	518.826	+0.28	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7 Nc7a6 Kc4d4 Na6c5
     11	00:00	      23.192	494.762	+0.26	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7 Nc7a6 Kc4d4 Na6c5 Bd7f5
     12	00:01	      34.776	450.767	+0.22	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7 Nc7a6 Kc4d4 Na6c5 Bd7h3 Kd2e2
     13	00:01	      51.800	477.866	+0.22	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7 Nc7a6 Kc4d4 Na6c5 Bd7h3 Kd2e2 Bh3f5
     14	00:01	      84.168	498.196	+0.23	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3d7 Nc7a6 Kc4d4 Na6c5 Bd7h3 Nc5d3 Bh3f5 Nd3c5 Bf5g4
     15	00:01	     163.592	533.497	+0.29	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3f5 Kd2c1 Bf5d7 Kc1c2 Bd7c6 Nc7e6 Bc6d5 Ne6c7 Bd5f3
     16	00:01	     276.016	564.152	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3f5 Kd2c1 Bf5e4 Kc1b2 Be4c6 Nc7e6 Bc6d5 Ne6c7 Bd5c6 Nc7e6
     17	00:01	     346.440	566.700	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3f5 Kd2c1 Bf5e4 Kc1b2 Be4c6 Nc7e6 Bc6d5 Ne6c7 Bd5e4 Kb2c1
     18	00:01	     444.624	570.545	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3f5 Kd2c1 Bf5e4 Kc1b2 Be4c6 Nc7e6 Bc6d7 Ne6g5 Kc4d3 Ng5f7
     19	00:02	     595.320	548.701	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3f5 Kd2c1 Bf5e4 Kc1b2 Be4c6 Kb2c2 Bc6d7 Nc7a6 Bd7f5+ Kc2b2
     20	00:02	     953.512	562.440	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d1 Bh3d7 Kd1c2 Bd7f5+ Kc2d2 Bf5e4 Nc7e6 Be4c6 Kd2c2 Bc6g2 Ne6c5
     21	00:03	   1.249.208	549.243	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d1 Bh3d7 Kd1c2 Bd7f5+ Kc2d2 Bf5e4 Nc7e6 Be4c6 Kd2c2 Bc6g2 Ne6c7
     22	00:04	   1.678.568	531.166	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d1 Bh3d7 Kd1c2 Bd7f5+ Kc2d2 Bf5e4 Nc7e6 Be4c6 Kd2c2 Bc6g2 Ne6c5
     23	00:05	   2.327.624	476.602	+0.33	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d1 Bh3d7 Kd1c2 Bd7f5+ Kc2d2 Bf5e4 Nc7e6 Be4c6 Kd2c2 Bc6g2 Ne6c5
     24	00:18	   8.536.472	497.685	+0.51	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3f5 Kd2c1 Bf5e4 Kc1b2 Be4c6 Nc7e6 Bc6d7 Ne6f4 Bd7f5 Nf4e2
     25	00:27	  14.116.944	536.311	+0.54	Bg2f1 Kd2e1 Bf1h3 Ke1d2 Bh3f5 Kd2c1 Bf5e4 Kc1d2 Be4c6 Kd2c2 Bc6d7 Nc7a6 Bd7f5+ Kc2b2
     26	00:40	  21.073.032	541.568	+0.48	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Kc4d4 Kc2d2 Kd4e4 Nc7e6 Ke4f3 Ne6f4 Kf3xg3 Nf4xg6 Bf1h3 Kd2e3 Bh3e6 Ng6f4
     27	00:50	  24.667.312	511.084	+0.48	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Kc4d4 Kc2d2 Kd4e4 Nc7e6 Ke4f3 Ne6f4 Kf3xg3 Nf4xg6 Bf1h3 Kd2e3 Bh3e6 Ng6f4
     28	01:03	  29.037.488	474.081	+0.48	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Kc4d4 Kc2d2 Kd4e4 Nc7e6 Ke4f3 Ne6f4 Kf3xg3 Nf4xg6 Bf1h3 Kd2e3 Bh3e6 Ng6f4
     29	01:52	  54.493.456	498.221	+0.55	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1d2 Bf5g4 Kd2c1 Bg4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3e4+ Kc2d2 Be4c6 Kd2c2
     30	02:19	  63.239.536	467.821	+0.55	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1d2 Bf5g4 Kd2c1 Bg4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3e4+ Kc2d2 Be4f5 Kd2c1
     31	03:05	  78.469.936	435.146	+0.55	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1d2 Bf5g4 Kd2c1 Bg4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3e4+ Kc2d2 Be4f5 Kd2c1
     32	04:10	 100.267.640	411.826	+0.55	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1d2 Bf5g4 Kd2c1 Bg4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3e4+ Kc2d2 Be4f5 Kd2c1
     33	08:31	 231.449.600	463.761	+0.67	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1d2 Bf5g4 Kd2c1 Bg4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3e4+ Kc2d2 Be4c6 Kd2c2
     34	11:19	 285.341.856	430.660	+0.67	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1d2 Bf5g4 Kd2c1 Bg4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3e4+ Kc2d2 Be4c6 Kd2c2
     35	22:54	 621.001.856	463.039	+0.68	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1b2 Bf5e4 Kb2c1 Be4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3c6 Nc7e6 Bc6g2 Kc2b2
     36	28:41	 706.191.048	420.364	+0.68	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1b2 Bf5e4 Kb2c1 Be4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3c6 Nc7e6 Bc6g2 Ne6c7
     37	53:46	1.372.721.240	435.810	+0.69	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1b2 Bf5e4 Kb2c1 Be4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3c6 Nc7e6 Bc6g2 Ne6c7
     38	1:09:54	1.557.769.080	380.414	+0.69	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1b2 Bf5e4 Kb2c1 Be4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3c6 Nc7e6 Bc6g2 Ne6c7
     39	1:40:19	1.853.472.448	315.351	+0.69	Bg2f1 Kd2c2 Bf1h3 Kc2c1 Bh3f5 Kc1b2 Bf5e4 Kb2c1 Be4f3 Kc1c2 Bf3c6 Nc7e6 Bc6g2 Ne6c7
   11/24/2007 6:23:31 AM, Time for this analysis: 02:30:01, Rated time: 23:41:20
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Re: Is there a convincing solution for Arasan 7.17?

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FEN: 8/2N5/6p1/1p5p/pPk4P/P5P1/3K2b1/8 b - - 0 1 

DanaSah v.3.41 FRC:
   2	00:00	          93	93	-0,29	Ad5 Re3
   3	00:00	         242	242	-0,44	Ad5 Re3 Ac6
   3	00:00	         302	302	-0,43	Af3 Ce6 Ae4
   4	00:00	         447	447	-0,44	Af3 Ce6 Ad5 Cc5
   4	00:00	         688	688	-0,43	Ae4 Ce6 Rd5 Cc5
   5	00:00	       1.113	1.113	-0,31	Ae4 Ce6 Rd5 Cf4+ Rd4 Ce6+ Re5
   6	00:00	       3.311	3.311	-0,61	Ae4 Re3 Af5 Rf4 Ag4 Re4
   6	00:00	       3.671	3.671	-0,53	Af3 Re3 Ag4 Rf4 Af5 Re5
   7	00:00	       5.067	5.067	-0,61	Af3 Re3 Ag4 Rf4 Af5 Re5 Ag4
   7	00:00	       6.154	615.400	-0,53	Ae4 Re3 Af5 Rf4 Ag4 Re4 Af5+ Re5
   8	00:00	       8.836	883.600	-0,56	Ae4 Re3 Ad5 Rf4 Ac6 Ce6 Ad5 Cc5
   9	00:00	      18.592	619.733	-0,52	Ae4 Re3 Ac6 Ce6 Ad7 Cc5 Af5 Rf4 Rd5
  10	00:00	      29.026	967.533	-0,52	Ae4 Re3 Ac6 Ce6 Ad7 Cc5 Af5 Rf4 Rd5 Re3
  10	00:00	      77.407	860.077	-0,23	Af1 Re1 Ad3 Ce6 Rd5 Cf4+ Rd4 Rd2 Ae4 Ce2+ Re5 Cf4
  11	00:00	      84.146	841.460	-0,23	Af1 Re1 Ad3 Ce6 Rd5 Cf4+ Rd4 Rd2 Ae4 Ce2+ Re5 Cf4 Rd4
  12	00:00	     110.259	787.564	-0,17	Af1 Re1 Ad3 Ce6 Ae4 Cc5 Rd4 Re2 Ad5 Cd3 Af3+ Rd2 Ad5
  13	00:00	     181.476	864.171	-0,17	Af1 Re1 Ah3 Rd1 Af1 Rc2 Ad3+ Rb2 Rd4 Rc1 Re3 Rd1 Ac4 Rc2
  13	00:00	     330.133	892.251	-0,05	Ah3 Rd1 Ad7 Rc2 Ac6 Rb2 Ad5 Ce8 Ac6 Cd6+ Rd5 Cf7 Re6 Cg5+ Re5
  14	00:00	     374.273	891.126	-0,04	Ah3 Rd1 Ad7 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Re2 g5 hxg5 Rf5 Cd5 Rxg5 Rd3
  15	00:00	     642.226	845.034	+0,04	Ah3 Rc1 Af5 Rb2 Ad7 Ca6 Rd4 Cc5 Af5 Cb7 Re4 Cd6+ Rf3 Cxb5 Rxg3 Cd4 Rxh4 Cxf5+ gxf5
  16	00:00	     792.160	861.043	+0,04	Ah3 Rc1 Af5 Rb2 Ad7 Ca6 Rd4 Cc5 Af5 Cb7 Re4 Cd6+ Rf3 Cxb5 Rxg3 Cd4 Rxh4 Cxf5+ gxf5
  17	00:01	   1.087.265	862.908	+0,09	Ah3 Rc1 Af5 Rb2 Ad7 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Re2 g5 hxg5 Rf5 g6 Rxg6 Cd5 Af5
  18	00:02	   2.198.174	823.286	+0,07	Ah3 Rc1 Af1 Rc2 Rd4 Ce6+ Re4 Cf4 Rf3 Cxg6 Rxg3 Rc3 Ac4 Ce5 Ad5 Rd4 Ae6 Rc5 Rf4
  19	00:08	   5.532.945	635.970	+0,08	Ah3 Rc1 Af1 Rc2 Ad3+ Rd2 Af5 Rc1 Ag4 Rb2 Ad7 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Re2 g5 hxg5 Rf5 Cd5 Rxg5
  20	00:11	   6.845.788	611.231	+0,08	Ah3 Rc1 Af1 Rc2 Ad3+ Rd2 Af5 Rc1 Ag4 Rb2 Ad7 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Re2 g5 hxg5 Rf5 Cd5 Rxg5
  21	00:18	  10.167.817	543.733	+0,08	Ah3 Rc1 Af5 Rb2 Ad7 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Re2 g5 hxg5 Rf5 Cd5 Rxg5 Rd3 Ae6 Rd4 Axd5 Rxd5 Rf5 Rd4
  22	00:28	  15.930.790	555.079	 0,00	Ah3 Rc1 Af5 Rd2 Ad7 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Re2 Ag4+ Rf2 Ad7 Re2
  23	01:07	  29.752.341	444.064	+0,07	Ah3 Rc1 Ad7 Rc2 Ac6 Ce6 Ae4+ Rd2 Rb3 Cc5+ Rxa3 Cxe4 Rxb4 Rd3 a3 Rc2 Rc4 Cd6+ Rc5 Cf7 Rb4 Ce5 g5 Cd3+ Rc4 hxg5 a2 Ce5+ Rd5
  24	02:41	  73.852.224	458.709	+0,30	Ah3 Rc1 Af1 Rc2 Rd4 Ce6+ Re4 Cf4 Rf3 Cxg6 Rxg3 Rc3 Ah3 Rd4 Af5 Ce5 Rxh4 Rc5 Rg5 Rxb5 Rf4 Cc4 h4 Rxa4 h3
  25	06:32	 171.960.234	438.674	+0,49	Ah3 Rc1 Af1 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Ce8 Rf3 Cd6 Rxg3 Re1 Ag2 Cxb5 Rxh4 Rf2 Rh3 Cc3 g5 Cxa4 g4 b5 g3+ Re3 Ad5 Cc5
  26	15:35	 373.963.601	399.961	+0,64	Ah3 Rc1 Af1 Rc2 Rd4 Rd2 Re4 Ce8 Rf3 Cd6 Rxg3 Re1 Ag2 Cxb5 Rxh4 Rf2 Ab7 Cd6 Ad5 b5 g5 Cf5+ Rh3 b6 h4 Ce3 Ae4
Bh3...
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Alessandro Scotti

Re: Is there a convincing solution for Arasan 7.17?

Post by Alessandro Scotti »

Hamsters likes Bc6, takes a while for a decent score though:

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20/27 0:09.85 27 6587512 Bf1 Ke1 Bh3 Kd2 Bf5 Kc1 Bg4 Kd2 Bh3 Ke3 Bd7 Kf4 Kb3 Ke5 Kxa3 Kd6 Bf5 Kc5 Kb3 Nxb5
20/28 0:13.75 92 9198820 Bc6 Ne6 Bd7 Nc5 Bf5 Kd1 Kc3 Kc1 Bh3 Kb1 Kd4 Nb7 Ke3 Nd6 Kf3 Nxb5 Kxg3 Nc3 Bd7 Kc2 Kxh4
21/29 0:18.39 104 12286251 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nb8 Ke3 Kc3 Kf3 Kd4 Kxg3 Kc5 Bd3 Nc6 Kxh4 Ne5 Be2 Nxg6+ Kg5 Ne5 h4
22/31 0:24.58 111 16456090 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nb8 Ke3 Kc3 Kf3 Kd4 Kxg3 Kc5 Bd3 Nc6 Kxh4 Ne5 Be2 Nxg6+ Kg5 Ne5 h4 Kd4
23/32 0:36.23 124 24237128 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nb8 Ke3 Kc3 Kf3 Kd4 Kxg3 Kc5 Bd3 Nc6 Kxh4 Ne5 Be2 Nxg6+ Kg5 Ne5 h4 Kd4 h3
24/36 0:50.83 108 34008262 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nc7 Bd7 Na8 Ke4 Kc3 Kf3 Nc7 Kxg3 Kd4 Kxh4 Kc5 g5 Kd6 Bf5 Nxb5 g4 Nc3 Bc2
25/36 1:12.47 114 48676852 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nc7 Bd7 Na8 Ke4 Kc3 Kf3 Nc7 Kxg3 Kd4 Kxh4 Kc5 g5 Kd6 Bf5 Nxb5 g4 Nc3 Bc2 b5
26/36 2:01.10 124 80758316 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nc7 Bd7 Na8 Ke4 Kc3 Kf3 Nc7 Kxg3 Kd4 Kxh4 Kc5 g5 Kd6 Bf5 Nxb5 g4 Ke5 Bd7 Nd4 g3
27/38 3:16.04 106 128148273 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nc7 Bd7 Na8 Ke3 Kc3 Kf2 Kd4 Kxg3 Kc5 Kxh4 Nb6 Be8 Nd5 g5 Nf6 Bg6 Kxb5 Bc2 Kc5 g4 b5
28/40 5:33.19 112 216265180 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nc7 Bd7 Na8 Ke3 Kc3 Kf2 Kd4 Kxg3 Kc5 Kxh4 Nb6 Be8 Nd5 g5 Nf6 Bg6 Kxb5 Bc2 Nd5 g4 Ne3 Bb3
29/42 9:59.80 116 386221513 Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nc7 Bd7 Na8 Ke3 Kc3 Ke4 Nc7 Kf3 Kd4 Kxg3 Kc5 Kxh4 Kd6 Bf5 Kc5 g5 Nxb5 g4 Nd4 Bd3 b5 g3 b6
30/46 26:39.23 190 1008859733 Bc6 Ne6 Bd7 Nc5 Bf5 Kd1 Kc3 Kc1 Bh3 Kb1 Kd4 Kb2 Ke3 Kc3 Kf3 Nd3 Kxg3 Ne5 Kxh4 Nxg6+ Kg3 Kd4 h4 Ne7 Bg4 Kd3 Bd7 Nd5 h3 Nf6 h2 Ne4+ Kf4
31/46 48:41.01 217 1818747299 Bc6 Ne6 Bd7 Nc5 Bf5 Kd1 Kc3 Kc1 Bh3 Kb1 Kd4 Kb2 Ke3 Na6 Kf3 Nc7 Bf1 Ne6 Bc4 Nf8 Bf7 Kc3 Kxg3 Kd4 Kxh4 Kc5 Be8 Ne6 g5 Kd5 Bg6
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Re: Is there a convincing solution for Arasan 7.17?

Post by jdart »

Well, at 1hr/move, Arasan thinks Bc6 is best but by less of a margin than I generally like to see for test moves:

"arasan7.17" bm Bc6
result: Bc6 3600 seconds. score: +2.50 3588717902 nodes. ++ corre
ct
Bc6 Kc2 Bd7 Na6 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd4 Nc7 Bd7 Na6 Ke3 Kc3 Kf3 Nc5 Bh3 Kd4 Kxg3 Ne4+ Kxh4
Nc3 Bf1 Kc5 Kg3 Nxb5 h4 Nc3 h3 Ne4+ Kg2 b5
result(2): Be4 3600 seconds. score: +2.00 3465037819 nodes.
** error
Be4 Ne6 Bf3 Kc2 Bg4 Nc5 Bf5+ Kd2 Bh3 Kc2 Bg4 Nb7 Bf5+ Kb2 Kd3 Nd6 Bd7 Nf7 Kd4 Nh
8 Be8 Kc2 Ke3 Kc3 Kf2 g4 hxg4 Kd4
result(3): Bb7 3600 seconds. score: +2.06 3277649941 nodes.
** error
Bb7 Kc2 Be4+ Kb2 Bd5 Ne8 Kd3 Nd6 Bc6 Nf7 Ke3 Nd6
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