Hello there
I am verry surprised about the playingpower of crafty 21.06!
Here some games with long time controls:
All opponents had superior hardware. My machine is Intel Quad 3,0GHz which gives crafty a speed between 4500 and 7500 Kns.
Regards, Clemens Keck
[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 180m + 0s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Black "Ultra-blitz, Zappa Mexico X64 KO"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C93"]
[BlackElo "2552"]
[Annotator "0.81;??"]
[PlyCount "124"]
[EventDate "2007.12.15"]
[TimeControl "10800"]
{Zappa Mexico X64 KOE: 20.9 ply; 5.151kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5355 @ 2.
66GHz 2660MHz, (8 threads), 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} e5 {
(c5) 0.00/0 0} 2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {0.00/0 0} 3. Bb5 {0.00/0 0} a6 {
(Sf6) 0.00/0 0} 4. Ba4 {0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. O-O {0.00/0 0} b5 {
(Le7) 0.00/0 0} 6. Bb3 {0.00/0 0} Be7 {(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 7. Re1 {0.00/0 0} d6 {
(0-0) 0.00/0 0} 8. c3 {0.00/0 0} O-O {0.00/0 0} 9. h3 {0.00/0 0} h6 {
(Sb8) 0.00/0 0} 10. d4 {0.00/0 0} Re8 {(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 11. Nbd2 {0.00/0 0} Bf8
{(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 12. Nf1 {0.00/0 0} Bd7 {(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 13. Ng3 {0.00/0 0} Na5
{0.00/0 0} 14. Bc2 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0} 15. b3 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {
(Sc6) 0.00/0 0} 16. cxd4 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {0.00/0 0} 17. Bb2 {0.00/0 0} Rc8 {
(Sxd4) 0.00/0 0} 18. Rc1 {0.00/0 0} g6 {(exd4) 0.00/0 0} 19. d5 {0.00/0 0} Ne7
{(Sa5) 782} 20. Qd2 {0.81/18 335} Qb6 {(g5) 171} 21. Bc3 {0.79/19 300} Nh7 {
(g5) 0} 22. Bd3 {1.06/17 376} Bg7 {(g5) 582} 23. Ba5 {1.07/17 300} Qb8 {184}
24. Bb4 {1.09/18 88} f5 {(Db6) 498} 25. Ba3 {0.81/18 676} Nf6 {(Txc1) 517} 26.
Rxc8 {0.97/18 264} Bxc8 {11} 27. Qa5 {0.85/18 429} fxe4 {(f4) 0} 28. Nxe4 {
0.96/21 230} Nxe4 {75} 29. Bxe4 {0.96/20 157} Bb7 {72} 30. Rd1 {0.96/19 147}
Kh7 {(Dd8) 241} 31. Qd2 {0.90/16 233} Rf8 {(Kh8) 256} 32. Qd3 {0.80/15 210} Bc8
{180} 33. g4 {0.69/19 23} Qb6 {(Kh8) 190} 34. Bc1 {0.73/18 202} Bd7 {(Kh8) 0}
35. Be3 {1.15/18 249} Qb7 {(Da5) 0} 36. Nh4 {1.07/17 210} Be8 {222} 37. Kh2 {
0.85/17 54} b4 {(Lf7) 195} 38. Qe2 {0.84/17 182} Bf6 {(Kg8) 0} 39. Nf3 {
1.01/17 178} Kg7 {(Sg8) 20} 40. h4 {0.90/18 185} Rh8 {(Dd7) 159} 41. Kg3 {
1.15/17 169} Ng8 {(Dd7) 0} 42. Bd3 {1.03/16 165} a5 {(Lb5) 146} 43. g5 {
1.80/18 158} hxg5 {130} 44. hxg5 {1.25/18 291} Bd8 {0} 45. Nd4 {1.25/17 143}
Bd7 {0} 46. Ne6+ {0.86/17 166} Bxe6 {0} 47. dxe6 {0.81/19 133} Ne7 {0} 48. Qg4
{0.79/18 131} Bb6 {139} 49. Be4 {0.26/18 36} d5 {149} 50. Bxb6 {0.02/18 6} Qxb6
{0} 51. Bxd5 {0.00/19 126} Rf8 {0} 52. Qe2 {0.28/19 122} Rf5 {0} 53. Qe3 {
0.18/19 118} Qxe3+ {0} 54. fxe3 {0.00/20 40} Rxg5+ {104} 55. Kf3 {0.00/19 9}
Nxd5 {(Tf5+) 91} 56. Rxd5 {0.38/20 120} Kf6 {0} 57. e4 {0.39/19 117} Kxe6 {0}
58. Rxa5 {0.37/20 106} Rg1 {29} 59. Rb5 {0.35/19 75} Rf1+ {(Ta1) 131} 60. Ke2 {
0.19/20 117} Ra1 {151} 61. Rb6+ {0.16/19 1} Kf7 {(Ke7) 82} 62. Ra6 {0.17/19 98}
Rc1 {(Kg7) (Lag: Av=0.26s, max=1.0s) 110} 1/2-1/2
[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 60m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Black "My, Fritz 11"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C99"]
[BlackElo "2561"]
[Annotator "1.02;0.00"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[EventDate "2007.12.15"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
{Fritz 11: 22.0 ply; 2.464kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3208MHz, (4 threads), , 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 2.
Nf3 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {(Sf6) 0.00/0 0} 3. Bb5 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 4. Ba4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. O-O {0.00/0 0} Be7 {0.00/0 0} 6. Re1 {0.00/0 0} b5
{0.00/0 0} 7. Bb3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {(0-0) 0.00/0 0} 8. c3 {0.00/0 0} O-O {0.00/0 0
} 9. h3 {0.00/0 0} Na5 {(Sb8) 0.00/0 0} 10. Bc2 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0} 11. d4
{0.00/0 0} Qc7 {(Sd7) 0.00/0 0} 12. Nbd2 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 13. cxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Bb7 {(Sc6) 0.00/0 0} 14. d5 {0.00/0 0} Rac8 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bd3 {
0.00/0 0} Nd7 {0.00/0 0} 16. Nf1 {0.00/0 0} f5 {0.00/0 0} 17. Ng3 {
(e4xf5) 0.00/0 0} f4 {0.00/21 181} 18. Nf5 {0.00/0 0} Bd8 {(Txf5) 0.00/0 0} 19.
b3 {(Lc1-d2) 0.00/0 0} g6 {-0.08/21 187} 20. Nh6+ {(Sf5-h4) 0.00/0 0} Kg7 {
-0.18/21 127} 21. Ng4 {0.00/0 0} Qb6 {(Dc5) -0.14/20 242} 22. Bd2 {
(Lc1-b2) 0.00/0 0} h5 {0.13/19 207} 23. Ngh2 {0.00/0 0} Rf7 {(Lf6) 0.25/19 188}
24. h4 {(Te1-f1) 1.02/18 151} Kh6 {(Kg8) 0.96/18 170} 25. Qe2 {
(Te1-f1) 1.16/16 142} b4 {0.86/20 133} 26. Reb1 {1.74/19 6} Nc5 {1.06/20 120}
27. Bc2 {1.75/18 18} Nd7 {1.36/19 92} 28. Rc1 {1.94/18 50} Nf6 {
(La8) 1.40/19 40} 29. Bd1 {1.96/18 139} Ng4 {(Txc1) 1.56/19 14} 30. Ng5 {
(Tc1xc8) 2.36/18 134} Bxg5 {2.76/20 102} 31. hxg5+ {2.32/17 29} Kg7 {
(Kxg5) 2.94/22 104} 32. Qe1 {2.79/20 129} Rxc1 {3.16/21 34} 33. Rxc1 {
2.78/23 91} Nxh2 {3.13/23 58} 34. Kxh2 {3.13/22 3} Ba8 {3.26/23 119} 35. Bxb4 {
3.12/22 3} Nb7 {3.49/24 125} 36. Rc6 {3.20/21 0} Qd8 {3.90/23 123} 37. Rxa6 {
3.23/20 1} Rc7 {(Tf8) 3.94/22 123} 38. Qf1 {(De1-e2) 3.89/20 125} Nc5 {
(Tc8) 4.14/21 63} 39. Ba5 {5.05/21 120} Bb7 {4.66/23 0} 40. Ra7 {4.97/21 118}
Qb8 {4.89/23 0} 41. Bxc7 {5.05/20 114} Qxa7 {(Dxc7) 5.68/23 0} 42. Bxd6 {
6.29/19 111} Nd7 {6.33/23 143} 43. Qb5 {7.02/21 2} Bc8 {6.57/23 85} 44. Qc6 {
6.90/20 22} Qxf2 {6.89/24 102} 45. Bb4 {6.84/18 15} Qg3+ {6.99/23 42} 46. Kh1 {
My,Fritz 11 gibt auf (Lag: Av=0.26s, max=0.8s) 7.92/20 68} 1-0
[Event "Wertungspartie, 120m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SIR JMA, Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64"]
[Black "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B80"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2647"]
[Annotator "-0.64;-1.11"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[EventDate "2007.12.16"]
[TimeControl "7200+15"]
{Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64: 20.6 ply; 503kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.
40GHz 2400MHz, (4 threads), Sikanda.ctg, 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0}
2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {0.00/0 0} 3. d4 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 4. Nxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. Nc3 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 6. Be3 {0.00/0 0} e6 {
0.00/0 0} 7. f3 {(Le2) 0.00/0 0} b5 {0.00/0 0} 8. Qd2 {0.00/0 0} Nbd7 {0.00/0 0
} 9. g4 {(a3) 0.00/0 0} b4 {0.00/0 0} 10. Nce2 {(Sa4) 0.00/0 0} h6 {0.00/0 0}
11. O-O-O {0.00/0 0} Qc7 {0.00/0 0} 12. h4 {(Sg3) 0.00/0 0} d5 {0.00/0 0} 13.
Bg2 {0.00/0 0} Nb6 {0.00/0 0} 14. b3 {0.00/0 0} dxe4 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bf4 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} e3 {0.00/0 0} 16. Bxe3 {(Dxe3) 0.00/0 0} Bb7 {0.00/0 0} 17. Bf4
{(g5) 0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 18. Bg3 {0.00/0 0} O-O-O {-1.11/16 269} 19. Qe3 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} Rd5 {-1.11/17 273} 20. Kb1 {0.00/0 0} Bc5 {-1.00/18 254} 21. Qc1
{0.00/0 0} Rhd8 {-1.03/17 478} 22. Rhe1 {(Lh3) -0.64/20 226} Qd7 {-1.53/18 234}
23. c3 {(g5) -0.77/21 233} bxc3 {-1.09/17 216} 24. Qxc3 {-0.88/21 34} exd4 {
-1.04/17 183} 25. Nxd4 {-0.85/22 192} Ne8 {(Td8-e8) -1.15/17 13} 26. Rc1 {
-0.80/19 266} Nc7 {-1.49/18 1} 27. Bf1 {(Dxc5) -0.86/19 207} Nba8 {-1.59/17 216
} 28. Nc2 {-0.84/20 19} Bd6 {-1.66/18 179} 29. Bxd6 {-0.89/20 60} Rxd6 {
-1.42/17 135} 30. Qxg7 {-0.90/20 73} Bxf3 {-1.37/17 115} 31. Qc3 {
(g5) -0.98/20 316} Bb7 {-1.64/17 185} 32. Ne3 {-1.22/19 167} Kb8 {
(Lb7-e4+) -1.79/18 13} 33. Nf5 {-1.34/19 241} Re6 {-1.89/17 1} 34. Qc2 {
(Txe6) -1.52/20 411} Nd5 {-1.96/17 180} 35. Red1 {(Dd2) -1.65/20 353} Nab6 {
(Te6-c6) -2.03/16 175} 36. Qd2 {(Td4) -1.57/18 190} Rc8 {-2.03/15 279} 37.
Rxc8+ {-1.75/19 2} Qxc8 {-2.18/16 181} 38. Rc1 {-1.85/20 103} Qh8 {
(Dc8-f8) -2.33/16 52} 39. a3 {-1.91/19 203} Qe5 {(Dh8-f6) -2.55/17 0} 40. Ka2 {
(Lg2) -2.31/17 152} h5 {-3.56/18 154} 41. Nd4 {-3.10/20 10} Rd6 {-3.67/18 141}
42. Qb2 {-3.10/21 46} Ne7 {(Sd5-b4+) -3.79/18 99} 43. Rd1 {(Sf5) -2.84/20 119}
Nbd5 {-3.90/17 143} 44. gxh5 {(Le2) -2.96/20 78} Qxh5 {-4.10/18 150} 45. Rd2 {
(Le2) -3.07/20 42} Qxh4 {-4.23/18 134} 46. Bc4 {(Le2) -3.21/21 106} Qf6 {
-4.18/17 136} 47. Re2 {-3.36/22 67} Nb6 {-4.50/19 60} 48. Nc2 {
(Te6) -3.47/22 60} Qxb2+ {-4.52/19 126} 49. Kxb2 {-3.49/25 0} Nxc4+ {
-4.63/19 122} 50. bxc4 {-3.85/26 771} Re6 {
SIR JMA,Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64 gibt auf -4.60/19 1} 0-1
surprisingly crafty 21.06!
Moderator: Ras
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GS
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
Well I am not so surprised with the results in that 3 games and I guessMurx wrote:Hello there
I am verry surprised about the playingpower of crafty 21.06!
Here some games with long time controls:
All opponents had superior hardware. My machine is Intel Quad 3,0GHz which gives crafty a speed between 4500 and 7500 Kns.
Regards, Clemens Keck
you know the reason already ;-)
Crafty left book quite better in game 1 but drew.
In game 2 Crafty was winning already after book end.
In game 3 Rybka was lost already after book end.
You used a very good book.
Guenther
[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 60m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Black "My, Fritz 11"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C99"]
[BlackElo "2561"]
[Annotator "1.02;0.00"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[EventDate "2007.12.15"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
{Fritz 11: 22.0 ply; 2.464kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3208MHz, (4 threads), , 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 2.
Nf3 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {(Sf6) 0.00/0 0} 3. Bb5 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 4. Ba4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. O-O {0.00/0 0} Be7 {0.00/0 0} 6. Re1 {0.00/0 0} b5
{0.00/0 0} 7. Bb3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {(0-0) 0.00/0 0} 8. c3 {0.00/0 0} O-O {0.00/0 0
} 9. h3 {0.00/0 0} Na5 {(Sb8) 0.00/0 0} 10. Bc2 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0} 11. d4
{0.00/0 0} Qc7 {(Sd7) 0.00/0 0} 12. Nbd2 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 13. cxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Bb7 {(Sc6) 0.00/0 0} 14. d5 {0.00/0 0} Rac8 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bd3 {
0.00/0 0} Nd7 {0.00/0 0} 16. Nf1 {0.00/0 0} f5 {0.00/0 0} 17. Ng3 {
(e4xf5) 0.00/0 0} f4 {0.00/21 181} 18. Nf5 {0.00/0 0} Bd8 {(Txf5) 0.00/0 0} 19.
b3 {(Lc1-d2) 0.00/0 0} g6 {-0.08/21 187} 20. Nh6+ {(Sf5-h4) 0.00/0 0} Kg7 {
-0.18/21 127} 21. Ng4 {0.00/0 0} Qb6 {(Dc5) -0.14/20 242} 22. Bd2 {
(Lc1-b2) 0.00/0 0} h5 {0.13/19 207} 23. Ngh2 {0.00/0 0} Rf7 {(Lf6) 0.25/19 188}
24. h4 {(Te1-f1) 1.02/18 151}
+- after Whites' first move after book end
[Event "Wertungspartie, 120m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SIR JMA, Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64"]
[Black "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B80"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2647"]
[Annotator "-0.64;-1.11"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[EventDate "2007.12.16"]
[TimeControl "7200+15"]
{Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64: 20.6 ply; 503kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.
40GHz 2400MHz, (4 threads), Sikanda.ctg, 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0}
2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {0.00/0 0} 3. d4 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 4. Nxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. Nc3 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 6. Be3 {0.00/0 0} e6 {
0.00/0 0} 7. f3 {(Le2) 0.00/0 0} b5 {0.00/0 0} 8. Qd2 {0.00/0 0} Nbd7 {0.00/0 0
} 9. g4 {(a3) 0.00/0 0} b4 {0.00/0 0} 10. Nce2 {(Sa4) 0.00/0 0} h6 {0.00/0 0}
11. O-O-O {0.00/0 0} Qc7 {0.00/0 0} 12. h4 {(Sg3) 0.00/0 0} d5 {0.00/0 0} 13.
Bg2 {0.00/0 0} Nb6 {0.00/0 0} 14. b3 {0.00/0 0} dxe4 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bf4 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} e3 {0.00/0 0} 16. Bxe3 {(Dxe3) 0.00/0 0} Bb7 {0.00/0 0} 17. Bf4
{(g5) 0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 18. Bg3 {0.00/0 0} O-O-O {-1.11/16 269} 19. Qe3 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} Rd5 {-1.11/17 273} 20. Kb1 {0.00/0 0} Bc5 {-1.00/18 254} 21. Qc1
{0.00/0 0} Rhd8 {-1.03/17 478} 22. Rhe1 {(Lh3) -0.64/20 226}
-+ after Whites' first move after book end
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Murx
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
Hello Guenther
indeed the book variants of craftys opponents where not the best. But I remember lots of games played in the past with crafty. It was in that times as 19 and 20 series where out. At that time a good book variation was not enough for crafty. Too often it blunders against strong opponents.
It feels like this has changed. Also I have the feeling that long time controls are good for crafty.
Regards, Clemens
indeed the book variants of craftys opponents where not the best. But I remember lots of games played in the past with crafty. It was in that times as 19 and 20 series where out. At that time a good book variation was not enough for crafty. Too often it blunders against strong opponents.
It feels like this has changed. Also I have the feeling that long time controls are good for crafty.
Regards, Clemens
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Werner
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- Full name: Werner Schüle
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
Werner
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Tony Thomas
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
The latest..Werner wrote:Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
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Dr.Wael Deeb
- Posts: 9773
- Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
- Location: Amman,Jordan
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
No,definitely not the latest,ti's a version which I'll reveal when I publish my rating list at long time control....Tony Thomas wrote:The latest..Werner wrote:Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Tony Thomas
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
Whatever Wael, you and your conspiracy theories. I really want to say Nigga please>Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:No,definitely not the latest,ti's a version which I'll reveal when I publish my rating list at long time control....Tony Thomas wrote:The latest..Werner wrote:Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
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Peter Skinner
- Posts: 1763
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- Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
- Full name: Peter Skinner
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
21.6 in my testing is the best version to date. (Well of the released versions)Tony Thomas wrote: Whatever Wael, you and your conspiracy theories. I really want to say Nigga please>For me the best version was 17.14 until the release of 21.5, and then 21.6 showed even better improvement.
Now Clemen's is not using Crafty's default book, so the results will totally be YMMV when using a compiled book.bin.
I have an excellent book for Crafty, built by Crafty. Not huge, but terrific openings.
As some will ask for it, I will post it on the website when I get home tonight.
Peter
I was kicked out of Chapters because I moved all the Bibles to the fiction section.
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Tony Thomas
Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
Thanks Peter, I used your book for 21.5, I believe it did not work with 21.6, so I had to use Jim's book for it. You can release both the crafty 217 and the book tonight if you like. <Borat accent>You are very nice, how much?<Borat accent>Peter Skinner wrote:21.6 in my testing is the best version to date. (Well of the released versions)Tony Thomas wrote: Whatever Wael, you and your conspiracy theories. I really want to say Nigga please>For me the best version was 17.14 until the release of 21.5, and then 21.6 showed even better improvement.
Now Clemen's is not using Crafty's default book, so the results will totally be YMMV when using a compiled book.bin.
I have an excellent book for Crafty, built by Crafty. Not huge, but terrific openings.
As some will ask for it, I will post it on the website when I get home tonight.
Peter
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Graham Banks
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Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!
I'm also impressed by Crafty 21.6 and would expect it to eventually move ahead of the other versions in the CCRL list.Peter Skinner wrote: 21.6 in my testing is the best version to date. (Well of the released versions)
Regards, Graham.
gbanksnz at gmail.com