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surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Murx »

Hello there

I am verry surprised about the playingpower of crafty 21.06!
Here some games with long time controls:
All opponents had superior hardware. My machine is Intel Quad 3,0GHz which gives crafty a speed between 4500 and 7500 Kns.
Regards, Clemens Keck

[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 180m + 0s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Black "Ultra-blitz, Zappa Mexico X64 KO"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C93"]
[BlackElo "2552"]
[Annotator "0.81;??"]
[PlyCount "124"]
[EventDate "2007.12.15"]
[TimeControl "10800"]

{Zappa Mexico X64 KOE: 20.9 ply; 5.151kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5355 @ 2.
66GHz 2660MHz, (8 threads), 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} e5 {
(c5) 0.00/0 0} 2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {0.00/0 0} 3. Bb5 {0.00/0 0} a6 {
(Sf6) 0.00/0 0} 4. Ba4 {0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. O-O {0.00/0 0} b5 {
(Le7) 0.00/0 0} 6. Bb3 {0.00/0 0} Be7 {(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 7. Re1 {0.00/0 0} d6 {
(0-0) 0.00/0 0} 8. c3 {0.00/0 0} O-O {0.00/0 0} 9. h3 {0.00/0 0} h6 {
(Sb8) 0.00/0 0} 10. d4 {0.00/0 0} Re8 {(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 11. Nbd2 {0.00/0 0} Bf8
{(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 12. Nf1 {0.00/0 0} Bd7 {(Lb7) 0.00/0 0} 13. Ng3 {0.00/0 0} Na5
{0.00/0 0} 14. Bc2 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0} 15. b3 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {
(Sc6) 0.00/0 0} 16. cxd4 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {0.00/0 0} 17. Bb2 {0.00/0 0} Rc8 {
(Sxd4) 0.00/0 0} 18. Rc1 {0.00/0 0} g6 {(exd4) 0.00/0 0} 19. d5 {0.00/0 0} Ne7
{(Sa5) 782} 20. Qd2 {0.81/18 335} Qb6 {(g5) 171} 21. Bc3 {0.79/19 300} Nh7 {
(g5) 0} 22. Bd3 {1.06/17 376} Bg7 {(g5) 582} 23. Ba5 {1.07/17 300} Qb8 {184}
24. Bb4 {1.09/18 88} f5 {(Db6) 498} 25. Ba3 {0.81/18 676} Nf6 {(Txc1) 517} 26.
Rxc8 {0.97/18 264} Bxc8 {11} 27. Qa5 {0.85/18 429} fxe4 {(f4) 0} 28. Nxe4 {
0.96/21 230} Nxe4 {75} 29. Bxe4 {0.96/20 157} Bb7 {72} 30. Rd1 {0.96/19 147}
Kh7 {(Dd8) 241} 31. Qd2 {0.90/16 233} Rf8 {(Kh8) 256} 32. Qd3 {0.80/15 210} Bc8
{180} 33. g4 {0.69/19 23} Qb6 {(Kh8) 190} 34. Bc1 {0.73/18 202} Bd7 {(Kh8) 0}
35. Be3 {1.15/18 249} Qb7 {(Da5) 0} 36. Nh4 {1.07/17 210} Be8 {222} 37. Kh2 {
0.85/17 54} b4 {(Lf7) 195} 38. Qe2 {0.84/17 182} Bf6 {(Kg8) 0} 39. Nf3 {
1.01/17 178} Kg7 {(Sg8) 20} 40. h4 {0.90/18 185} Rh8 {(Dd7) 159} 41. Kg3 {
1.15/17 169} Ng8 {(Dd7) 0} 42. Bd3 {1.03/16 165} a5 {(Lb5) 146} 43. g5 {
1.80/18 158} hxg5 {130} 44. hxg5 {1.25/18 291} Bd8 {0} 45. Nd4 {1.25/17 143}
Bd7 {0} 46. Ne6+ {0.86/17 166} Bxe6 {0} 47. dxe6 {0.81/19 133} Ne7 {0} 48. Qg4
{0.79/18 131} Bb6 {139} 49. Be4 {0.26/18 36} d5 {149} 50. Bxb6 {0.02/18 6} Qxb6
{0} 51. Bxd5 {0.00/19 126} Rf8 {0} 52. Qe2 {0.28/19 122} Rf5 {0} 53. Qe3 {
0.18/19 118} Qxe3+ {0} 54. fxe3 {0.00/20 40} Rxg5+ {104} 55. Kf3 {0.00/19 9}
Nxd5 {(Tf5+) 91} 56. Rxd5 {0.38/20 120} Kf6 {0} 57. e4 {0.39/19 117} Kxe6 {0}
58. Rxa5 {0.37/20 106} Rg1 {29} 59. Rb5 {0.35/19 75} Rf1+ {(Ta1) 131} 60. Ke2 {
0.19/20 117} Ra1 {151} 61. Rb6+ {0.16/19 1} Kf7 {(Ke7) 82} 62. Ra6 {0.17/19 98}
Rc1 {(Kg7) (Lag: Av=0.26s, max=1.0s) 110} 1/2-1/2


[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 60m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Black "My, Fritz 11"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C99"]
[BlackElo "2561"]
[Annotator "1.02;0.00"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[EventDate "2007.12.15"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]

{Fritz 11: 22.0 ply; 2.464kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3208MHz, (4 threads), , 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 2.
Nf3 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {(Sf6) 0.00/0 0} 3. Bb5 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 4. Ba4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. O-O {0.00/0 0} Be7 {0.00/0 0} 6. Re1 {0.00/0 0} b5
{0.00/0 0} 7. Bb3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {(0-0) 0.00/0 0} 8. c3 {0.00/0 0} O-O {0.00/0 0
} 9. h3 {0.00/0 0} Na5 {(Sb8) 0.00/0 0} 10. Bc2 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0} 11. d4
{0.00/0 0} Qc7 {(Sd7) 0.00/0 0} 12. Nbd2 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 13. cxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Bb7 {(Sc6) 0.00/0 0} 14. d5 {0.00/0 0} Rac8 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bd3 {
0.00/0 0} Nd7 {0.00/0 0} 16. Nf1 {0.00/0 0} f5 {0.00/0 0} 17. Ng3 {
(e4xf5) 0.00/0 0} f4 {0.00/21 181} 18. Nf5 {0.00/0 0} Bd8 {(Txf5) 0.00/0 0} 19.
b3 {(Lc1-d2) 0.00/0 0} g6 {-0.08/21 187} 20. Nh6+ {(Sf5-h4) 0.00/0 0} Kg7 {
-0.18/21 127} 21. Ng4 {0.00/0 0} Qb6 {(Dc5) -0.14/20 242} 22. Bd2 {
(Lc1-b2) 0.00/0 0} h5 {0.13/19 207} 23. Ngh2 {0.00/0 0} Rf7 {(Lf6) 0.25/19 188}
24. h4 {(Te1-f1) 1.02/18 151} Kh6 {(Kg8) 0.96/18 170} 25. Qe2 {
(Te1-f1) 1.16/16 142} b4 {0.86/20 133} 26. Reb1 {1.74/19 6} Nc5 {1.06/20 120}
27. Bc2 {1.75/18 18} Nd7 {1.36/19 92} 28. Rc1 {1.94/18 50} Nf6 {
(La8) 1.40/19 40} 29. Bd1 {1.96/18 139} Ng4 {(Txc1) 1.56/19 14} 30. Ng5 {
(Tc1xc8) 2.36/18 134} Bxg5 {2.76/20 102} 31. hxg5+ {2.32/17 29} Kg7 {
(Kxg5) 2.94/22 104} 32. Qe1 {2.79/20 129} Rxc1 {3.16/21 34} 33. Rxc1 {
2.78/23 91} Nxh2 {3.13/23 58} 34. Kxh2 {3.13/22 3} Ba8 {3.26/23 119} 35. Bxb4 {
3.12/22 3} Nb7 {3.49/24 125} 36. Rc6 {3.20/21 0} Qd8 {3.90/23 123} 37. Rxa6 {
3.23/20 1} Rc7 {(Tf8) 3.94/22 123} 38. Qf1 {(De1-e2) 3.89/20 125} Nc5 {
(Tc8) 4.14/21 63} 39. Ba5 {5.05/21 120} Bb7 {4.66/23 0} 40. Ra7 {4.97/21 118}
Qb8 {4.89/23 0} 41. Bxc7 {5.05/20 114} Qxa7 {(Dxc7) 5.68/23 0} 42. Bxd6 {
6.29/19 111} Nd7 {6.33/23 143} 43. Qb5 {7.02/21 2} Bc8 {6.57/23 85} 44. Qc6 {
6.90/20 22} Qxf2 {6.89/24 102} 45. Bb4 {6.84/18 15} Qg3+ {6.99/23 42} 46. Kh1 {
My,Fritz 11 gibt auf (Lag: Av=0.26s, max=0.8s) 7.92/20 68} 1-0

[Event "Wertungspartie, 120m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SIR JMA, Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64"]
[Black "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B80"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2647"]
[Annotator "-0.64;-1.11"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[EventDate "2007.12.16"]
[TimeControl "7200+15"]

{Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64: 20.6 ply; 503kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.
40GHz 2400MHz, (4 threads), Sikanda.ctg, 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0}
2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {0.00/0 0} 3. d4 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 4. Nxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. Nc3 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 6. Be3 {0.00/0 0} e6 {
0.00/0 0} 7. f3 {(Le2) 0.00/0 0} b5 {0.00/0 0} 8. Qd2 {0.00/0 0} Nbd7 {0.00/0 0
} 9. g4 {(a3) 0.00/0 0} b4 {0.00/0 0} 10. Nce2 {(Sa4) 0.00/0 0} h6 {0.00/0 0}
11. O-O-O {0.00/0 0} Qc7 {0.00/0 0} 12. h4 {(Sg3) 0.00/0 0} d5 {0.00/0 0} 13.
Bg2 {0.00/0 0} Nb6 {0.00/0 0} 14. b3 {0.00/0 0} dxe4 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bf4 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} e3 {0.00/0 0} 16. Bxe3 {(Dxe3) 0.00/0 0} Bb7 {0.00/0 0} 17. Bf4
{(g5) 0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 18. Bg3 {0.00/0 0} O-O-O {-1.11/16 269} 19. Qe3 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} Rd5 {-1.11/17 273} 20. Kb1 {0.00/0 0} Bc5 {-1.00/18 254} 21. Qc1
{0.00/0 0} Rhd8 {-1.03/17 478} 22. Rhe1 {(Lh3) -0.64/20 226} Qd7 {-1.53/18 234}
23. c3 {(g5) -0.77/21 233} bxc3 {-1.09/17 216} 24. Qxc3 {-0.88/21 34} exd4 {
-1.04/17 183} 25. Nxd4 {-0.85/22 192} Ne8 {(Td8-e8) -1.15/17 13} 26. Rc1 {
-0.80/19 266} Nc7 {-1.49/18 1} 27. Bf1 {(Dxc5) -0.86/19 207} Nba8 {-1.59/17 216
} 28. Nc2 {-0.84/20 19} Bd6 {-1.66/18 179} 29. Bxd6 {-0.89/20 60} Rxd6 {
-1.42/17 135} 30. Qxg7 {-0.90/20 73} Bxf3 {-1.37/17 115} 31. Qc3 {
(g5) -0.98/20 316} Bb7 {-1.64/17 185} 32. Ne3 {-1.22/19 167} Kb8 {
(Lb7-e4+) -1.79/18 13} 33. Nf5 {-1.34/19 241} Re6 {-1.89/17 1} 34. Qc2 {
(Txe6) -1.52/20 411} Nd5 {-1.96/17 180} 35. Red1 {(Dd2) -1.65/20 353} Nab6 {
(Te6-c6) -2.03/16 175} 36. Qd2 {(Td4) -1.57/18 190} Rc8 {-2.03/15 279} 37.
Rxc8+ {-1.75/19 2} Qxc8 {-2.18/16 181} 38. Rc1 {-1.85/20 103} Qh8 {
(Dc8-f8) -2.33/16 52} 39. a3 {-1.91/19 203} Qe5 {(Dh8-f6) -2.55/17 0} 40. Ka2 {
(Lg2) -2.31/17 152} h5 {-3.56/18 154} 41. Nd4 {-3.10/20 10} Rd6 {-3.67/18 141}
42. Qb2 {-3.10/21 46} Ne7 {(Sd5-b4+) -3.79/18 99} 43. Rd1 {(Sf5) -2.84/20 119}
Nbd5 {-3.90/17 143} 44. gxh5 {(Le2) -2.96/20 78} Qxh5 {-4.10/18 150} 45. Rd2 {
(Le2) -3.07/20 42} Qxh4 {-4.23/18 134} 46. Bc4 {(Le2) -3.21/21 106} Qf6 {
-4.18/17 136} 47. Re2 {-3.36/22 67} Nb6 {-4.50/19 60} 48. Nc2 {
(Te6) -3.47/22 60} Qxb2+ {-4.52/19 126} 49. Kxb2 {-3.49/25 0} Nxc4+ {
-4.63/19 122} 50. bxc4 {-3.85/26 771} Re6 {
SIR JMA,Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64 gibt auf -4.60/19 1} 0-1
GS

Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by GS »

Murx wrote:Hello there

I am verry surprised about the playingpower of crafty 21.06!
Here some games with long time controls:
All opponents had superior hardware. My machine is Intel Quad 3,0GHz which gives crafty a speed between 4500 and 7500 Kns.
Regards, Clemens Keck
Well I am not so surprised with the results in that 3 games and I guess
you know the reason already ;-)

Crafty left book quite better in game 1 but drew.
In game 2 Crafty was winning already after book end.
In game 3 Rybka was lost already after book end.

You used a very good book.

Guenther


[Event "Freundschaftspartie, 60m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Black "My, Fritz 11"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C99"]
[BlackElo "2561"]
[Annotator "1.02;0.00"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[EventDate "2007.12.15"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]

{Fritz 11: 22.0 ply; 2.464kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3208MHz, (4 threads), , 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 2.
Nf3 {0.00/0 0} Nc6 {(Sf6) 0.00/0 0} 3. Bb5 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 4. Ba4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. O-O {0.00/0 0} Be7 {0.00/0 0} 6. Re1 {0.00/0 0} b5
{0.00/0 0} 7. Bb3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {(0-0) 0.00/0 0} 8. c3 {0.00/0 0} O-O {0.00/0 0
} 9. h3 {0.00/0 0} Na5 {(Sb8) 0.00/0 0} 10. Bc2 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0} 11. d4
{0.00/0 0} Qc7 {(Sd7) 0.00/0 0} 12. Nbd2 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 13. cxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Bb7 {(Sc6) 0.00/0 0} 14. d5 {0.00/0 0} Rac8 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bd3 {
0.00/0 0} Nd7 {0.00/0 0} 16. Nf1 {0.00/0 0} f5 {0.00/0 0} 17. Ng3 {
(e4xf5) 0.00/0 0} f4 {0.00/21 181} 18. Nf5 {0.00/0 0} Bd8 {(Txf5) 0.00/0 0} 19.
b3 {(Lc1-d2) 0.00/0 0} g6 {-0.08/21 187} 20. Nh6+ {(Sf5-h4) 0.00/0 0} Kg7 {
-0.18/21 127} 21. Ng4 {0.00/0 0} Qb6 {(Dc5) -0.14/20 242} 22. Bd2 {
(Lc1-b2) 0.00/0 0} h5 {0.13/19 207} 23. Ngh2 {0.00/0 0} Rf7 {(Lf6) 0.25/19 188}
24. h4 {(Te1-f1) 1.02/18 151}

+- after Whites' first move after book end


[Event "Wertungspartie, 120m + 15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2007.12.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SIR JMA, Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64"]
[Black "BigBang, Crafty 21.06"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B80"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2647"]
[Annotator "-0.64;-1.11"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[EventDate "2007.12.16"]
[TimeControl "7200+15"]

{Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64: 20.6 ply; 503kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.
40GHz 2400MHz, (4 threads), Sikanda.ctg, 576 MB} 1. e4 {0.00/0 0} c5 {0.00/0 0}
2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0} d6 {0.00/0 0} 3. d4 {0.00/0 0} cxd4 {0.00/0 0} 4. Nxd4 {
0.00/0 0} Nf6 {0.00/0 0} 5. Nc3 {0.00/0 0} a6 {0.00/0 0} 6. Be3 {0.00/0 0} e6 {
0.00/0 0} 7. f3 {(Le2) 0.00/0 0} b5 {0.00/0 0} 8. Qd2 {0.00/0 0} Nbd7 {0.00/0 0
} 9. g4 {(a3) 0.00/0 0} b4 {0.00/0 0} 10. Nce2 {(Sa4) 0.00/0 0} h6 {0.00/0 0}
11. O-O-O {0.00/0 0} Qc7 {0.00/0 0} 12. h4 {(Sg3) 0.00/0 0} d5 {0.00/0 0} 13.
Bg2 {0.00/0 0} Nb6 {0.00/0 0} 14. b3 {0.00/0 0} dxe4 {0.00/0 0} 15. Bf4 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} e3 {0.00/0 0} 16. Bxe3 {(Dxe3) 0.00/0 0} Bb7 {0.00/0 0} 17. Bf4
{(g5) 0.00/0 0} e5 {0.00/0 0} 18. Bg3 {0.00/0 0} O-O-O {-1.11/16 269} 19. Qe3 {
(g5) 0.00/0 0} Rd5 {-1.11/17 273} 20. Kb1 {0.00/0 0} Bc5 {-1.00/18 254} 21. Qc1
{0.00/0 0} Rhd8 {-1.03/17 478} 22. Rhe1 {(Lh3) -0.64/20 226}

-+ after Whites' first move after book end
Murx

Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Murx »

Hello Guenther

indeed the book variants of craftys opponents where not the best. But I remember lots of games played in the past with crafty. It was in that times as 19 and 20 series where out. At that time a good book variation was not enough for crafty. Too often it blunders against strong opponents.
It feels like this has changed. Also I have the feeling that long time controls are good for crafty.

Regards, Clemens
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Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Werner »

Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
Werner
Tony Thomas

Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Tony Thomas »

Werner wrote:Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
The latest..
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Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Tony Thomas wrote:
Werner wrote:Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
The latest..
No,definitely not the latest,ti's a version which I'll reveal when I publish my rating list at long time control....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Tony Thomas

Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Tony Thomas »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:
Werner wrote:Hi Günther,
what do you think:
which Crafty version is the strongest?
The latest..
No,definitely not the latest,ti's a version which I'll reveal when I publish my rating list at long time control....
Whatever Wael, you and your conspiracy theories. I really want to say Nigga please> :wink: For me the best version was 17.14 until the release of 21.5, and then 21.6 showed even better improvement.
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Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Peter Skinner »

Tony Thomas wrote: Whatever Wael, you and your conspiracy theories. I really want to say Nigga please> :wink: For me the best version was 17.14 until the release of 21.5, and then 21.6 showed even better improvement.
21.6 in my testing is the best version to date. (Well of the released versions)

Now Clemen's is not using Crafty's default book, so the results will totally be YMMV when using a compiled book.bin.

I have an excellent book for Crafty, built by Crafty. Not huge, but terrific openings.

As some will ask for it, I will post it on the website when I get home tonight.

Peter
I was kicked out of Chapters because I moved all the Bibles to the fiction section.
Tony Thomas

Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Tony Thomas »

Peter Skinner wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote: Whatever Wael, you and your conspiracy theories. I really want to say Nigga please> :wink: For me the best version was 17.14 until the release of 21.5, and then 21.6 showed even better improvement.
21.6 in my testing is the best version to date. (Well of the released versions)

Now Clemen's is not using Crafty's default book, so the results will totally be YMMV when using a compiled book.bin.

I have an excellent book for Crafty, built by Crafty. Not huge, but terrific openings.

As some will ask for it, I will post it on the website when I get home tonight.

Peter
Thanks Peter, I used your book for 21.5, I believe it did not work with 21.6, so I had to use Jim's book for it. You can release both the crafty 217 and the book tonight if you like. <Borat accent>You are very nice, how much?<Borat accent>
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Re: surprisingly crafty 21.06!

Post by Graham Banks »

Peter Skinner wrote: 21.6 in my testing is the best version to date. (Well of the released versions)
I'm also impressed by Crafty 21.6 and would expect it to eventually move ahead of the other versions in the CCRL list.

Regards, Graham.
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