the end of the strelka affair

[ozziejoe]

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... id=3006#fp


In case this posting got lost in the other strelka thread, I'll insert it here. Vas has now stated more clearly how strelka is a clone and he is claiming it as his own.

I did not notice any testing going on, so maybe everybody has finally agreed it is a clone. I am amazed at how much disagreement this generated, and how confident some people where that it was not a clone, despite lacking the crucial evidence (vas looking at the code.)


I am glad it was finally found out so that the honest engine authors can get the attention they deserve. I hope this does not hurt vas financial prospects too much

best
J

[gerold]

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... id=3006#fp


In case this posting got lost in the other strelka thread, I'll insert it here. Vas has now stated more clearly how strelka is a clone and he is claiming it as his own.

I did not notice any testing going on, so maybe everybody has finally agreed it is a clone. I am amazed at how much disagreement this generated, and how confident some people where that it was not a clone, despite lacking the crucial evidence (vas looking at the code.)

It is not over. It has just begun Now if Vas release Strelka as
his own will it be a clone of Strelka. Rybka will get more
attendion and sale more copies of Rybka. Nice going Vas.


I am glad it was finally found out so that the honest engine authors can get the attention they deserve. I hope this does not hurt vas financial prospects too much

best
J

We have not found out. We have not heard the other side of the
story.

[GenoM]

Vas has now stated more clearly how strelka is a clone and he is claiming it as his own.

Instead of giving statements it's better Rajlich give some evidence, I would say.

[LarsA]

Vas has now stated more clearly how strelka is a clone and he is claiming it as his own.

Instead of giving statements it's better Rajlich give some evidence, I would say.

Please don't start!

What possible interest could Vas have in claiming that Strelka is a clone if it's not??

Edit:

From a business standpoint, if he's not taking legal action (wich he is not), he would be better of leaving the whole "clone question" as, well, a question.

[GenoM]

An interresting quote from KasparovChess forum:

Vast sections of these sources started their life as a decompiled Rybka 1.0.

Бред. Нельзя дизассемблировать постороннюю программу так, чтобы в итоге получился Фрукт.
Nonsense. It's impossible to decompile a different program and to get Fruit.

Pretty logical, isn't it?

[Uri Blass]

An interresting quote from KasparovChess forum:

Vast sections of these sources started their life as a decompiled Rybka 1.0.

Бред. Нельзя дизассемблировать постороннюю программу так, чтобы в итоге получился Фрукт.
Nonsense. It's impossible to decompile a different program and to get Fruit.

Pretty logical, isn't it?

Nonsense because strelka is not fruit.

Big parts of strelka like the move generator and bitboards are not in fruit.

Strelka is not exactly rybka and not exactly fruit so in theory it may include significant parts of both programs when rybka has nothing to do with fruit.

I do not claim that strelka has significant parts of fruit but my point is that even if it has significant parts of fruit we can say nothing about rybka.

Uri

[Alexander Schmidt]

Pretty logical, isn't it?

No, really not. You claim, that Rybka ~ Fruit, because Strelka ~ Rybka, and Strelka ~ Fruit and now you want evidence that Rybka ~ Strelka...

Alex

[Zach Wegner]

I think it is pretty obvious what has happened, after looking at the sources.

Fruit is a clone of Rybka!!!!

[slobo]

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... id=3006#fp


In case this posting got lost in the other strelka thread, I'll insert it here. Vas has now stated more clearly how strelka is a clone and he is claiming it as his own.

I did not notice any testing going on, so maybe everybody has finally agreed it is a clone. I am amazed at how much disagreement this generated, and how confident some people where that it was not a clone, despite lacking the crucial evidence (vas looking at the code.)

It is not over. It has just begun Now if Vas release Strelka as
his own will it be a clone of Strelka. Rybka will get more
attendion and sale more copies of Rybka. Nice going Vas.


I am glad it was finally found out so that the honest engine authors can get the attention they deserve. I hope this does not hurt vas financial prospects too much

best
J

We have not found out. We have not heard the other side of the
story.

That was a good one!

[slobo]

I think it is pretty obvious what has happened, after looking at the sources.

Fruit is a clone of Rybka!!!!

please, guys, stop; you´ll kill me!