Cool move!

[Jack Lad]

[d] r1bq1r1k/bpp2ppp/p1np3n/4p3/4P1P1/1BPP1N1P/PP1NRP2/R1BQ2K1 b - g3 0 12

[Ovyron]

What is the best move? Shredder 11 seemed to like:

+0.12 1...Be6 2.Kg2 Ng8 3.Nf1 d5 4.Be3 d4 5.cxd4 Bxd4 6.Bxe6 fxe6 7.Rc2 Bxe3 8.fxe3 Qd6 9.Rc3 a5 10.g5 Nb4 11.Ng3

And the usual suspects didn't do better, so maybe it needs a lot of time to find it...

17/48 +0.34 1...Nxg4 2.hxg4 Bxg4 3.Qf1 f5 4.Qg2 Qd7 5.Re1 fxe4 6.Rxe4 Bf5 7.Rh4 Bxd3 8.Bd5 Qf5 9.Rg4 Qd7 10.Qg3 Rf5 11.b4 Rh5 12.Rh4

17/40 +1.60 1...Bxg4 2.hxg4 Nxg4 3.Qf1 Qc8 4.Ng5 Kg8 5.Qg2 h6 6.Ne6 fxe6 7.Qxg4 Rf6 8.Kf1 Na5 9.Ke1 Qd7 10.Nc4 Nxb3 11.axb3 Raf8 12.Be3 Bxe3

17/46 +3.30 1...Bxf2+ 2.Rxf2 f6 3.Nf1 Nf7 4.Ne3 Qe7 5.Nd5 Qd8 6.Be3 Bd7 7.Kg2 Na5 8.Bc2 Be6 9.Nh4 c5 10.Qf3 b5 11.Raf1

[maxchgr]

is the last line a joke? Bxf2 followed by f6?

[Terry McCracken]

[d] r1bq1r1k/bpp2ppp/p1np3n/4p3/4P1P1/1BPP1N1P/PP1NRP2/R1BQ2K1 b - g3 0 12

12..f5!? is a cool move, not sure it's best, just cool.

[Ovyron]

is the last line a joke? Bxf2 followed by f6?

It's not a joke, and Shredder considers it a blunder (+3.30 means white is winning by that score), but I had to examine it, just in case

I didn't see a move that gave black a big advantage, but I didn't spend much time on the position.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

is the last line a joke? Bxf2 followed by f6?

This line is not a joke,I strongly suspect that it's some kind of hash collusion while calculating the variations

[Ovyron]

This line is not a joke,I strongly suspect that it's some kind of hash collusion while calculating the variations

No, I told Shredder to ignore all the other moves that scored better than Bxf2+, so I forced it to examine Bxf2+ and to give me a PV and score (my method of knowing if Bxf2+ had any merit, and it seems it didn't.)

+0.12 1...Be6, the best move, is at the top

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

This line is not a joke,I strongly suspect that it's some kind of hash collusion while calculating the variations

No, I told Shredder to ignore all the other moves that scored better than Bxf2+, so I forced it to examine Bxf2+ and to give me a PV and score (my method of knowing if Bxf2+ had any merit, and it seems it didn't.)

+0.12 1...Be6, the best move, is at the top

Aha,so it's a forced move,all clear now....

[Jack Lad]

[d] r1bq1r1k/bpp2ppp/p1np3n/4p3/4P1P1/1BPP1N1P/PP1NRP2/R1BQ2K1 b - g3 0 12

12..f5!? is a cool move, not sure it's best, just cool.

Well maybe this move is too cool because it seems to lose. Nxg4!! however just wins outright.

[Terry McCracken]

[d] r1bq1r1k/bpp2ppp/p1np3n/4p3/4P1P1/1BPP1N1P/PP1NRP2/R1BQ2K1 b - g3 0 12

12..f5!? is a cool move, not sure it's best, just cool.

Well maybe this move is too cool because it seems to lose. Nxg4!! however just wins outright.

Well I don't think it loses but it's not best and you need to prepare the N sac on g4.

Try 12..Na5 first.