Djinji vs Rybka 4-4, shows alot of hope to mankind.

[S.Taylor]

Firstly, Djinjichashvilli is not such a highly rated GM, and secondly, it was only 45 minutes per game.
Let's say we find a GM who is about 2800, but WITH the corresponding abilities of Djindihashvilli against computers, plus the extra elo quotent, and let's say that it was 40 moves in 2 hours o the like, then, there might yet be hope that the human would go unbeaten, and win even more, and we'd all see that machines are still toys.....almost!

I'd love to see some of the worlds most highly rated players getting great vs computers, AND giving more times for the games.

Or was it all due to the lack of the Pawn?

So perhaps a new requirment to being a GM should be training vs computers, with some minimum scores vs them?

Actually, it might be good to arrange that every player should be able to get a rating totally in reference to computers.

[gerold]

Firstly, Djinjichashvilli is not such a highly rated GM, and secondly, it was only 45 minutes per game.
Let's say we find a GM who is about 2800, but WITH the corresponding abilities of Djindihashvilli against computers, plus the extra elo quotent, and let's say that it was 40 moves in 2 hours o the like, then, there might yet be hope that the human would go unbeaten, and win even more, and we'd all see that machines are still toys.....almost!

I'd love to see some of the worlds most highly rated players getting great vs computers, AND giving more times for the games.

Or was it all due to the lack of the Pawn?

So perhaps a new requirment to being a GM should be training vs computers, with some minimum scores vs them?

Actually, it might be good to arrange that every player should be able to get a rating totally in reference to computers.

I like that idea. Human vs. computer, Rating.

[Tony Thomas]

It is possible that Roman has been unlucky so far in his career against humans. I guess that other humans knows something about him that computers doesnt and that they take advantage of it.

[Ovyron]

Or was it all due to the lack of the Pawn?

It was pawn and move. Larry Kaufman implied that Rybka would have won the match for sure, if Rybka was giving only a pawn (that means Rybka gets always white, and that makes a big difference.)

[playjunior]

To prove the dominance of Rybka once again, a new match is planned against a strong and well-known anti-computer expert <Insert name here>. He is rated only 2230, but is a renown for his anti-computer skills. The match will be a knight odds match. Time control is 45 seconds per game. If Rybka wins this match, there is no doubt that it has surpassed the top humans by an unmeasurable margin.

[Nid Hogge]

IDK Really. It's crippled chess. Why should humans be proud of {only) matching the machine at cripled chess. In normal chess that would be fine. But it's not, that's where they get a beating and that's why no one wants to play normal chess again. sad realy. not sure how many(if it all) normal games we'll see in the next 5 years between GM and Machine. I think less than 3. on the other hand you will see plenty of those crippled variations being played all the time. for me those matches mean nothing and are not very interesting to watch. you can't draw conclusions on how normal games will end depending on this games, they mean nothing for real chess.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

IDK Really. It's crippled chess. Why should humans be proud of {only) matching the machine at cripled chess. In normal chess that would be fine. But it's not, that's where they get a beating and that's why no one wants to play normal chess again. sad realy. not sure how many(if it all) normal games we'll see in the next 5 years between GM and Machine. I think less than 3. on the other hand you will see plenty of those crippled variations being played all the time. for me those matches mean nothing and are not very interesting to watch. you can't draw conclusions on how normal games will end depending on this games, they mean nothing for real chess.

Well said Nid,well said indeed....
This is not chess,this is a stupid chess something game and yes it's not important and not interesting at all....

[Golem]

I guess that other humans knows something about him that computers doesnt and that they take advantage of it.

I would preferably guess that Roman knows something about computers that other grand masters doesn't...

This is not chess,this is a stupid chess something game and yes it's not important and not interesting at all....

I don't find those games stupid at all. Ok, those games are real chess games (with a opening handicap for the computer) ! By the way, it's really a great performance by Roman and you can not deny that.

[Michael Sherwin]

Firstly, Djinjichashvilli is not such a highly rated GM, and secondly, it was only 45 minutes per game.
Let's say we find a GM who is about 2800, but WITH the corresponding abilities of Djindihashvilli against computers, plus the extra elo quotent, and let's say that it was 40 moves in 2 hours o the like, then, there might yet be hope that the human would go unbeaten, and win even more, and we'd all see that machines are still toys.....almost!

I'd love to see some of the worlds most highly rated players getting great vs computers, AND giving more times for the games.

Or was it all due to the lack of the Pawn?

So perhaps a new requirment to being a GM should be training vs computers, with some minimum scores vs them?

Actually, it might be good to arrange that every player should be able to get a rating totally in reference to computers.

IMO, most grandmasters are used to, trying just about anything that they can imagine, and getting away with it. Even against other strong grandmasters. This will not work against Rybka as Rybka will not let the player get away with very much at all.

A human can still defeat Rybka, but, it would take a 'Karpov' in his prime that is willing to play chess as to never loose or even never to try to win a game unless there was an obvious mistake by Rybka.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I guess that other humans knows something about him that computers doesnt and that they take advantage of it.

I would preferably guess that Roman knows something about computers that other grand masters doesn't...

This is not chess,this is a stupid chess something game and yes it's not important and not interesting at all....

I don't find those games stupid at all. Ok, those games are real chess games (with a opening handicap for the computer) ! By the way, it's really a great performance by Roman and you can not deny that.

What real chess are you talking about when your opponent's knight is not on the board before the game is even started
I don't count this as a good performance by Roman,I would admit and respect his performance if he played a normal chess game and even got 2,5-5,5 against Rybka,now this is interesting because it will be added to the record of man vs machine and give us a better picture of where we are standing now....