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Chess Computers are they IM? or GM? or Super GM?

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If a Chess Computer had the following:

1) one of the top five SSDF computer chess engines;

2) single Intel Xeon Quad core; and

3) eight gigs of RAM.

At Long Time Controls, would it be an IM or GM or Super GM?

At Long Time Controls, what would be the ELO range?

Thank you and comments are welcome :D
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In my opinion, Super GM, and the ELO range would be 2900-3000.

EDIT: As we're talking about their current list, maybe just 2800-2900 as they never tested Rybka 2.3.2a.
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Is there any evidence that Rybka would perform better than, say, Shredder in a human tournament?
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Ovyron wrote:In my opinion, Super GM, and the ELO range would be 2900-3000.

EDIT: As we're talking about their current list, maybe just 2800-2900 as they never tested Rybka 2.3.2a.
You can't go by the SSDF list, that is computer against computer, no human players :!:
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playjunior wrote:Is there any evidence that Rybka would perform better than, say, Shredder in a human tournament?
Nope
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Chess Gator wrote:
Ovyron wrote:In my opinion, Super GM, and the ELO range would be 2900-3000.

EDIT: As we're talking about their current list, maybe just 2800-2900 as they never tested Rybka 2.3.2a.
You can't go by the SSDF list, that is computer against computer, no human players :!:
The SSDF list is calibrated by human vs. computer tournaments, and was originally based on games involving Swedish club players, including several masters.
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ml wrote:
Chess Gator wrote:
Ovyron wrote:In my opinion, Super GM, and the ELO range would be 2900-3000.

EDIT: As we're talking about their current list, maybe just 2800-2900 as they never tested Rybka 2.3.2a.
You can't go by the SSDF list, that is computer against computer, no human players :!:
The SSDF list is calibrated by human vs. computer tournaments, and was originally based on games involving Swedish club players, including several masters.
The games against humans the SSDF list was originally based on were played more than 15 years ago, and the few games by "masters" were players rated nowhere near today's top GMs or programs. Then 7 1/2 years ago the SSDF concluded program ratings were inflated, based on a variety of human-computer games by various programs on a variety of different hardware between 1997-2000, and dropped all program ratings by 100 points. So while what you said is true, and the SSDF has done their best to keep the list calibrated to humans, it is also very unclear how closely present day SSDF ratings track present day FIDE ratings.
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smirobth wrote:
ml wrote:
Chess Gator wrote:
Ovyron wrote:In my opinion, Super GM, and the ELO range would be 2900-3000.

EDIT: As we're talking about their current list, maybe just 2800-2900 as they never tested Rybka 2.3.2a.
You can't go by the SSDF list, that is computer against computer, no human players :!:
The SSDF list is calibrated by human vs. computer tournaments, and was originally based on games involving Swedish club players, including several masters.
The games against humans the SSDF list was originally based on were played more than 15 years ago, and the few games by "masters" were players rated nowhere near today's top GMs or programs. Then 7 1/2 years ago the SSDF concluded program ratings were inflated, based on a variety of human-computer games by various programs on a variety of different hardware between 1997-2000, and dropped all program ratings by 100 points. So while what you said is true, and the SSDF has done their best to keep the list calibrated to humans, it is also very unclear how closely present day SSDF ratings track present day FIDE ratings.
I agree with your statement Robin,I definitely do....
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So... the original question still remains unanswered !
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Chess Gator wrote:So... the original question still remains unanswered !
Definitely a super grandmaster is my answer....
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