- which is the best free engine? Is it Toga? If so which version as there are different versions and compiles.
- which is the best free CTG opening book i.e updated with recent games?
- which is the best GUI? Chessbase/Arena/Rybka Aquarium/Chess Assistant?
- is there a free updated version of Fritz opening book?
Few questions on Books, Toga etc
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Rubinus
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Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
a) Fruit, Toga and new Glaurung. If 64bit, probably Glaurung better than Toga or Fruit.terminator wrote:- which is the best free engine? Is it Toga? If so which version as there are different versions and compiles.
- which is the best free CTG opening book i.e updated with recent games?
- which is the best GUI? Chessbase/Arena/Rybka Aquarium/Chess Assistant?
- is there a free updated version of Fritz opening book?
b) Not know, equally. Probably Perfect by Sedat.
c) Analyze, private tournament/matches -> CB my choice. Playing -> Chessmaster. Travel -> Arena/flash disk.
d) No, it self.
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Ovyron
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Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
On 1 CPU 32bit I think Rybka BETA deserves a mention (stronger than Toga and Fruit on my computer).Rubinus wrote:a) Fruit, Toga and new Glaurung.
And if by "best" you include playing style, I'd vote Thinker Passive 1.5D as the best freeware.
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Graham Banks
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Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
Of course, this is just in my opinion and others will likely disagree.terminator wrote:- which is the best free engine? Is it Toga? If so which version as there are different versions and compiles.
Toga II 3.1.2SE and Toga II 1.4.1SE
- which is the best free CTG opening book i.e updated with recent games?
Balanced-16.ctg or HS-Masterbook.ctg
- which is the best GUI? Chessbase/Arena/Rybka Aquarium/Chess Assistant?
At present, still Chessbase. However both Arena and ChessGUI are free.
- is there a free updated version of Fritz opening book?
Don't think so
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Mark Mason
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Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
Enrico,
Sedat Canbez is currently running an extensive Book tournament comparing the performance of all free to download books against each other. The book that is currently performing best and therefore the strongest is called MyBook 8.1 made by a Russian bookmaker called YuriyGudzovatiy.
It is 263Mb in size and made from 84,978 games. It is not private and is publically available to download from:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sfnv8mejctx
Mark
Sedat Canbez is currently running an extensive Book tournament comparing the performance of all free to download books against each other. The book that is currently performing best and therefore the strongest is called MyBook 8.1 made by a Russian bookmaker called YuriyGudzovatiy.
It is 263Mb in size and made from 84,978 games. It is not private and is publically available to download from:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sfnv8mejctx
Mark
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Mark Mason
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Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
I meant to add the link to the book testing tournament. He is testing 54 books and MyBook 8.1 is currently No1. See here for details:
http://www.sedatchess.com/scct_opening_book.html
Mark
http://www.sedatchess.com/scct_opening_book.html
Mark
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Eelco de Groot
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Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
Thanks for the link Mark! And thanks to Yuriy for his book! I downloaded it and it seems to be fine, it is a bit bigger in games even than Harry's HS for Rybka.ctg, in size it is 267,604 kB, more than twice as big if that means anything, and slightly less wide, less moves as tournament moves.
Here is a screenshot of the book in Chessbase Light:

Book Line Regards,
Eelco
Here is a screenshot of the book in Chessbase Light:

Book Line Regards,
Eelco
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gerold
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Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
Will it work in Arena. Thanks.Mark Mason wrote:Enrico,
Sedat Canbez is currently running an extensive Book tournament comparing the performance of all free to download books against each other. The book that is currently performing best and therefore the strongest is called MyBook 8.1 made by a Russian bookmaker called YuriyGudzovatiy.
It is 263Mb in size and made from 84,978 games. It is not private and is publically available to download from:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sfnv8mejctx
Mark
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Theodor
Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
Hi Eelco,
I have tested Yuriy's book and have found very good and very bad
lines. For example: after 1)e4 black plays only 1)..c6. If he feels so
strongly with Caro-Kann then he should show super lines for black and
not out of book sometimes with a disadvantage of -0.60 or more!.
With the continue this lines can be seen that the engine has difficulties to
salvage the game.
I have tested Yuriy's book and have found very good and very bad
lines. For example: after 1)e4 black plays only 1)..c6. If he feels so
strongly with Caro-Kann then he should show super lines for black and
not out of book sometimes with a disadvantage of -0.60 or more!.
With the continue this lines can be seen that the engine has difficulties to
salvage the game.
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terminator
Re: Few questions on Books, Toga etc
What happened to sheebar? Superchessengine have not updated it for several years. Superchessengine is a good site in my opinion but it suffers from a lack of updates and being difficult to navigate.
I agree with Chessbase GUIs being 'better' than Arena. Arena is hard to work with and has been in beta stage for a long time while others make gold releases.
I agree with Chessbase GUIs being 'better' than Arena. Arena is hard to work with and has been in beta stage for a long time while others make gold releases.