How about Rybka vs the 'middle-tier' engines?

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How about Rybka vs the 'middle-tier' engines?

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Alright, we've seen Rybka 3 crush the strongest contenders, Fritz 11, Hiarc 12, Shredder 11 etc. with lopsided scores. Now can we see some matches vs the 'middle-tier' engines like Chessmaster, Chesstiger, Gandalf, Bright, Twisted logic, etc.? and see just how much more lopsided the results would be?

Also, if Fritz 11 just won 4 games out of a hundred, then it would be nice and fun to see which engine from the 'middle class' can outperform it by winning more games than that.

feeling sadistic,
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A match Rybka v Crafty was played in where Rybka gave Crafty knight odds, and Crafty was slaughtered. Rybka used very high contempt, and it seems to work quite well against weaker opposition.
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Fascinating! Where can I see this match?
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Who really cares about such handicap-matches (without a pawn, knight etc...)?
In any case, I do not. My view is that such matches are pointless.
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Eraserheads wrote:Fascinating! Where can I see this match?
The games were not released :(
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GenoM wrote:Who really cares about such handicap-matches (without a pawn, knight etc...)?
In any case, I do not. My view is that such matches are pointless.
I strongly second that Geno 8-)
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R3 is devastating against engines that were once top (in their time). I will not name the engines because I think it is both unfair and irrelevant ... but in one of my tournies it had more than 40 wins in a row against 2 of those engines at 5 0 time control and 7 move book. You have to realize that R3 is also a multi processor engine using 64bit OS. It would be interesting to see how those engines would do against a "dumbed" down version of R3 ... mainly SP and 32bit. However I would think it would also be quite brutal.
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M ANSARI wrote:R3 is devastating against engines that were once top (in their time). I will not name the engines because I think it is both unfair and irrelevant ... but in one of my tournies it had more than 40 wins in a row against 2 of those engines at 5 0 time control and 7 move book. You have to realize that R3 is also a multi processor engine using 64bit OS. It would be interesting to see how those engines would do against a "dumbed" down version of R3 ... mainly SP and 32bit. However I would think it would also be quite brutal.
Hala Majd,
That is amazing to say the least,it looks like Rybka 3 is playing in a league of it's own far far away from the competition :shock:
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M ANSARI wrote:R3 is devastating against engines that were once top (in their time). I will not name the engines because I think it is both unfair and irrelevant ... but in one of my tournies it had more than 40 wins in a row against 2 of those engines at 5 0 time control and 7 move book. You have to realize that R3 is also a multi processor engine using 64bit OS. It would be interesting to see how those engines would do against a "dumbed" down version of R3 ... mainly SP and 32bit. However I would think it would also be quite brutal.
Quite a few computer chess enthusiasts still have 32-bit OS and are looking forward to trying out their "dumbed down" Rybka. :wink:
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Graham Banks wrote:
M ANSARI wrote:R3 is devastating against engines that were once top (in their time). I will not name the engines because I think it is both unfair and irrelevant ... but in one of my tournies it had more than 40 wins in a row against 2 of those engines at 5 0 time control and 7 move book. You have to realize that R3 is also a multi processor engine using 64bit OS. It would be interesting to see how those engines would do against a "dumbed" down version of R3 ... mainly SP and 32bit. However I would think it would also be quite brutal.
Quite a few computer chess enthusiasts still have 32-bit OS and are looking forward to trying out their "dumbed down" Rybka. :wink:
And I am one of those dummies who seem to think that single CPU tournaments are better at measuring pure engine improvements.