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LaurenceChen
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Positional Move Position

Post by LaurenceChen »

[d] r1b2rk1/p2p1ppp/4qn2/1BpN4/3bPB2/1Q6/P4PPP/3R1RK1 w - - 0 17

White to move?
How long does it take for your chess engine to find 17. Bc4 !?
This is the only move which can give White any chances of winning, other moves 17. Nxf6 or 17. Be3 only simplifies the position to a dead draw position.
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meschle
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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by meschle »

The excellent bright 0.3a 2 secs :)

Bright-0.3a:
1/7 00:00 23 23 +0.09 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6
2/9 00:00 281 281 +0.05 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5
3/11 00:00 1.855 1.855 -0.11 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3f3 Rf8e8 Rd1b1
4/11 00:00 5.631 5.631 -0.16 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4
5/11 00:00 14.855 464 +0.20 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8a6 Bf4g5 Qf6b6 Bb5xa6 Qb6xa6 Qd5xd7 Qa6xa2
6/13 00:00 33.060 423 -0.13 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1
7/20 00:00 95.467 555 -0.17 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Qf6e5 Qb3b4
7/20 00:00 133.667 568 -0.09 Bf4e3 Nf6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5c7 Qe6xb3 a2xb3 Ra8b8 Rd1xd4
8/20 00:00 267.646 570 +0.06 Bf4e3 Nf6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Ne4d2 Re1xe6 Nd2xb3 Re6e7
9/20 00:01 839.890 671 -0.34 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 d7d6 Bb5c6 Rb8b2 Rd1xd4
9/26 00:02 1.725.521 712 +0.03 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Qd5xd7 Qa6e2 Bf4c7 Qe2xe4 Rf1e1
10/26 00:02 2.043.401 710 -0.14 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Qd5xd7 Rf8d8 Qd7f5 g7g6 Qf5g4 Qa6xa2
11/26 00:05 4.334.853 745 -0.24 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4d6 Rf8e8 Bd6xc5 Bd4xc5 Qd5xc5 Re8xe4 Rd1xd7 Qa6xa2
12/30 00:11 9.316.410 794 -0.19 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4d6 Rf8c8 Rd1b1 Qa6c6 Rf1e1 Qc6xd5 e4xd5
13/39 00:21 17.428.522 823 -0.16 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 Rd1b1
14/39 00:44 35.441.855 802 -0.16 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 Rd1b1
15/41 01:45 83.630.600 795 -0.19 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 a2a4 Bd4e5 g2g3
15/41 03:09 146.120.250 770 -0.19 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 a2a4 Bd4e5 g2g3
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Dann Corbit
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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by Dann Corbit »

LaurenceChen wrote:[d] r1b2rk1/p2p1ppp/4qn2/1BpN4/3bPB2/1Q6/P4PPP/3R1RK1 w - - 0 17

White to move?
How long does it take for your chess engine to find 17. Bc4 !?
This is the only move which can give White any chances of winning, other moves 17. Nxf6 or 17. Be3 only simplifies the position to a dead draw position.
Rybka found it right away and then discarded it only to find it again at 56 seconds

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 4:43:57 PM Level: 180 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Rybka 3

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move (Rybka 3): Bb5-c4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:01
      2	00:00	       1.282	20.837	-0.25	Nd5xf6+
      3	00:01	       1.894	30.785	-0.26	Nd5xf6+
      4	00:01	       2.958	38.341	-0.21	Nd5xf6+
      5	00:01	       3.698	34.425	-0.21	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3
      6	00:01	       9.847	58.285	-0.26	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 d7d6
      7	00:01	      18.317	79.815	-0.26	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 d7d6
      7+	00:01	      36.391	113.265	-0.06	Bb5c4
      7	00:01	      42.579	121.113	-0.13	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Qe6xa6 Nd5c7
      8	00:01	     108.303	154.245	-0.34	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Rd1b1 Qa6e6
      8	00:01	     108.307	154.250	-0.33	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3
      9+	00:01	     113.070	154.378	-0.13	Nd5xf6+
      9	00:01	     123.985	159.298	-0.26	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3d5 Rf8e8 Bb5c4 Bc8b7
     10	00:02	     190.008	178.012	-0.13	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3d5 Rf8e8 Bb5c4 Bc8b7 Qd5xd7
     11	00:02	     249.100	172.001	-0.17	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3d3 d7d5 e4xd5 Bc8f5 Qd3e2 Rf8d8 Rf1e1
     12	00:03	     399.231	188.479	-0.15	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3d3 d7d5 e4xd5 Bc8g4 f2f3 Bg4f5 Qd3c4 Rf8c8 Bb5c6
     13	00:05	     806.803	190.448	-0.18	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3a4 d7d6 f2f4 Bc8e6 Rd1d2 g7g6 Bb5c4 Be6xc4
     14	00:09	   1.624.643	199.692	-0.07	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3a4 d7d6 Bb5e2 Rb8b2 Rf1e1 Bc8b7 f2f3 d6d5 e4xd5 Bb7xd5 Qa4xa7
     15	00:13	   2.602.954	211.189	-0.07	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3a4 d7d6 Rf1e1 Bc8g4 Bb5e2 Bg4xe2 Re1xe2 Rf8e8 Qa4xa7 Qf6e5 Qa7a4 f7f5
     16	00:26	   5.589.167	227.016	-0.12	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3a4 Rf8e8 Bb5d3 Bc8b7 Qa4xa7 Bb7c6 Bd3c4 Qf6g6 Rd1xd4 Bc6xe4 f2f3 Be4c6 Rd4g4 Qg6d6
     16	00:56	  11.634.234	213.136	+0.11	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 h7h5 Qa7b7 d7d5 a2a4 h5h4 Qb7e7 Rd8a8 Qe7d7 g7g6 Qd7xd5 Ra8xa4 Rd1e1 c5c4 Re1e2
     17	01:01	  12.386.021	209.378	+0.11	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 h7h5 Qa7b7 d7d5 a2a4 h5h4 Qb7e7 Rd8a8 Qe7d7 g7g6 Qd7xd5 Ra8xa4 Rd1e1 c5c4 Re1e2
     18	01:24	  17.879.008	217.974	+0.09	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 h7h5 Qa7b7 d7d5 a2a4 h5h4 Qb7e7 Rd8a8 Qe7d7 g7g6 Qd7xd5 Ra8xa4 Kg1h1 Ra4a3 Rd1e1 h4h3
     19	02:12	  29.222.364	228.134	+0.03	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 h7h5 Qa7b7 d7d5 a2a4 h5h4 Qb7e7 Rd8b8 Qe7d7 Qf4e4 a4a5 Rb8b3 Qd7d8+ Kg8h7 Qd8g5
   10/29/2008 4:47:11 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 00:01

1 of 1 matching moves
10/29/2008 4:47:11 PM, Total time: 12:03:14 AM
Rated time: 00:01 = 1 Seconds
Thinker found it, but we have no clue how long it took, since Thinker is mum about his thinking.

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 4:43:57 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: (Passive)Thinker_64-bit-smp4

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move ((Passive)Thinker_64-bit-smp4): Bb5-c4
    identical moves! Found in: 03:00
   10/29/2008 4:50:18 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 03:00

1 of 1 matching moves
10/29/2008 4:50:19 PM, Total time: 12:06:22 AM
Rated time: 03:00 = 180 Seconds
Dann Corbit
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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by Dann Corbit »

Anmon found it fast:

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 4:43:57 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: AnMon_560

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move (AnMon_560): Bb5-c4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:00
      2	00:00	         212	0	-0.32	Nd5xf6+ Bd4xf6 Qb3d5 Qe6xd5 Rd1xd5
      3	00:00	         850	0	-0.29	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 a2a3
      4	00:00	       6.422	0	-0.44	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 d7d6
      5	00:00	      21.369	0	-0.42	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4c7 Qf6g5 Bb5e2
      6	00:00	      80.406	0	-0.56	Nd5xf6+ Bd4xf6 Qb3xe6 Bc8b7 Qe6xd7
      6+	00:00	     104.537	0	-0.55	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 d7d6 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bb5c4 Rf8e8
      6	00:00	     112.086	0	-0.49	Bf4e3 Qe6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ g7xf6
      6+	00:00	     129.558	0	-0.48	Qb3f3 Nf6xd5 e4xd5 Qe6f6 Rf1e1 Qf6e7
      6	00:00	     131.612	0	-0.45	Qb3f3 Nf6xd5 e4xd5 Qe6b6 Rd1b1 d7d6 Rf1e1
      7	00:00	     195.760	0	-0.61	Qb3f3 Nf6xd5 e4xd5 Qe6g6 Bb5d3 Qg6b6 Rf1e1 Qb6a5
      7+	00:00	     206.997	0	-0.60	Bf4e3 Qe6xe4 Be3xd4 Nf6g4 Nd5f6+ Kg8h8
      7	00:00	     235.203	0	-0.45	Bf4e3 Qe6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ g7xf6 Rf1e1
      8	00:00	     421.653	0	-0.47	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 Nf6xd5 Rd1xd5 Rf8e8 Rf1d1 c5c4
      8+	00:01	     753.554	0	-0.46	Bb5c4 Nf6xe4 Nd5c7 Qe6f5 Bf4e3 h7h6 Nc7xa8 Bd4xe3
      8	00:01	     897.588	417.693	-0.32	Bb5c4 Nf6xd5 Bc4xd5 Qe6f6
      9+	00:02	   1.797.798	417.693	-0.31	Bb5c4 Nf6xd5 Bc4xd5 Qe6e7
      9	00:02	   2.114.642	417.693	-0.26	Bb5c4 Nf6h5 Bf4d2 Qe6e5 Qb3f3 Ra8b8 Bc4d3
     10	00:04	   3.655.179	858.193	-0.28	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Qe6xe4 Nd5c7 Ra8d8 Rd1xd4 Qe4xd4 Qb3g3 d7d5
     11+	00:08	   6.921.425	912.366	-0.27	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Qe6xa6 Nd5c7 Bd4xf2+ Kg1xf2 Nf6xe4+ Kf2e3 Qa6a5 Nc7xa8 Rf8xa8
     11	00:09	   8.057.917	903.977	-0.20	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7
     12+	00:20	  18.477.474	867.947	-0.19	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 h7h6
     12+	00:22	  19.696.028	840.741	-0.17	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Qf4d6
     12+	00:28	  25.372.406	800.239	-0.13	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Bd4e5 g2g3 Qf4g5
     12+	00:29	  26.414.379	937.525	-0.11	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 g7g5 g2g3 Qf4b8
     12+	00:30	  27.396.465	937.525	-0.09	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Bd4e5 g2g3 h7h6
     12+	00:32	  28.945.206	903.291	-0.05	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Kg8h8 Qb3b7 Bd4e5 Rf1e1 Rf8xa8
     12+	00:33	  29.964.318	923.662	-0.03	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Qf4e3
     12+	00:35	  31.815.847	932.277	-0.01	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Qf4g5
     12+	00:36	  33.096.378	932.277	+0.01	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Bd4f6
     12+	00:38	  34.804.769	971.686	+0.05	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Kg8f8
     12+	00:39	  35.920.497	944.476	+0.07	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 g7g5 g2g3 Qf4e3
     12+	00:41	  37.477.195	919.409	+0.09	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 g7g5 g2g3 h7h5
     12	00:42	  38.269.948	919.409	+0.10	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 e4xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3
     13-	00:46	  43.278.959	1.078.329	+0.09	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 e4xd5 Qe6xa6 h2h3
     13-	00:47	  44.817.619	1.198.754	-0.07	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 e4xd5 Qe6xa6 Rf1e1
     13-	00:49	  46.185.831	1.198.754	-0.15	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4d6 Rf8e8 Bd6f8
     13	00:55	  52.457.182	816.087	-0.20	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5
     14+	01:45	  98.664.008	888.714	-0.19	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 h7h6 Qb7xa8+
     14+	01:56	 108.959.597	1.007.394	-0.17	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Qf4d6
     14+	02:03	 115.870.513	935.128	-0.15	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Kg8h8 Qb7xa8+ Qf4b8
     14	02:06	 119.585.956	1.096.993	-0.14	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d6 Rd1b1
   10/29/2008 4:53:30 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 00:00

1 of 1 matching moves
10/29/2008 4:53:31 PM, Total time: 12:09:33 AM
Rated time: 00:00 = 0 Seconds

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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by Dann Corbit »

Arasan was fast, but the score is not good (-1/2 pawn). I did not check carefully, but I suspect that the plan is wrong:

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 4:43:57 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Arasan_103_x64_ja

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move (Arasan_103_x64_ja): Bb5-c4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:00
      2	00:00	         393	0	-0.81	Nd5xf6+ Bd4xf6
      3	00:00	       1.301	0	-0.68	Nd5xf6+ Bd4xf6 Qb3c4
      4	00:00	       5.171	0	-0.68	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8b7
      5	00:00	      12.964	0	-0.75	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8b7 Qd5xb7 Qf6xf4 Bb5xd7
      6	00:00	      30.556	0	-0.75	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8b7 Qd5xb7 Qf6xf4 Bb5xd7
      7	00:00	     115.607	0	-0.93	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3g3 Bc8b7 Rf1e1 d7d5 e4xd5 Bb7xd5
      8	00:00	     267.111	0	-0.81	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 f2f3
      9	00:00	     660.456	1.320.912	-0.81	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 d7d6 f2f3 Qf6b2 Qe3b3
     10	00:02	   3.403.766	1.519.538	-0.87	Bf4e3 Nf6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rd1xd4 Qe6e5 Qb3e3 f7f5 f2f3 a7a6 f3xe4 a6xb5
     11	00:06	  10.646.331	1.527.450	-0.68	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4e5 Bd4xe5 Qd5xe5 c5c4 Rd1xd7 Qa6xa2
     12	00:12	  19.366.726	1.510.665	-0.67	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8
     13	00:36	  56.236.866	1.551.789	-0.75	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Rd1b1 Kg8h8 Rb1b7 Ra8d8 Bf4c7 Rd8c8 Rf1b1
     14	00:54	  85.384.555	1.564.679	-0.25	Bb5c4 Bc8a6
     14	01:24	 133.083.418	1.572.904	+0.01	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5
     15	02:34	 241.860.751	1.567.674	-0.48	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5
   10/29/2008 4:56:49 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 00:00

1 of 1 matching moves
10/29/2008 4:56:49 PM, Total time: 12:12:51 AM
Rated time: 00:00 = 0 Seconds
LaurenceChen
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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by LaurenceChen »

Thanks for the replies. It took me 5 hours of analysis to find this move. The resulting position is lost for Black. Black has an uphill struggle to find a draw. Funny that the engines give a negative score, that is, the engines believe that the position is favorable for Black, but, it is not. White has a very strong pull in the resulting position after exchanges. Black is busted.
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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by Dann Corbit »

meschle wrote:The excellent bright 0.3a 2 secs :)

Bright-0.3a:
1/7 00:00 23 23 +0.09 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6
2/9 00:00 281 281 +0.05 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5
3/11 00:00 1.855 1.855 -0.11 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3f3 Rf8e8 Rd1b1
4/11 00:00 5.631 5.631 -0.16 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4
5/11 00:00 14.855 464 +0.20 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8a6 Bf4g5 Qf6b6 Bb5xa6 Qb6xa6 Qd5xd7 Qa6xa2
6/13 00:00 33.060 423 -0.13 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1
7/20 00:00 95.467 555 -0.17 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Qf6e5 Qb3b4
7/20 00:00 133.667 568 -0.09 Bf4e3 Nf6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5c7 Qe6xb3 a2xb3 Ra8b8 Rd1xd4
8/20 00:00 267.646 570 +0.06 Bf4e3 Nf6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Ne4d2 Re1xe6 Nd2xb3 Re6e7
9/20 00:01 839.890 671 -0.34 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 d7d6 Bb5c6 Rb8b2 Rd1xd4
9/26 00:02 1.725.521 712 +0.03 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Qd5xd7 Qa6e2 Bf4c7 Qe2xe4 Rf1e1
10/26 00:02 2.043.401 710 -0.14 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Qd5xd7 Rf8d8 Qd7f5 g7g6 Qf5g4 Qa6xa2
11/26 00:05 4.334.853 745 -0.24 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4d6 Rf8e8 Bd6xc5 Bd4xc5 Qd5xc5 Re8xe4 Rd1xd7 Qa6xa2
12/30 00:11 9.316.410 794 -0.19 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4d6 Rf8c8 Rd1b1 Qa6c6 Rf1e1 Qc6xd5 e4xd5
13/39 00:21 17.428.522 823 -0.16 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 Rd1b1
14/39 00:44 35.441.855 802 -0.16 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 Rd1b1
15/41 01:45 83.630.600 795 -0.19 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 a2a4 Bd4e5 g2g3
15/41 03:09 146.120.250 770 -0.19 Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Qb7xa7 d7d5 a2a4 Bd4e5 g2g3
Only to abandon it for Re1 {which could, after all, be another good move}:

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 5:04:31 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Bright-0.3a

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move (Bright-0.3a): Rf1-e1
    Not found in: 03:00
     2/9	00:00	         290	290	+0.05	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5
     3/10	00:00	       2.043	2.043	-0.11	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3f3 Rf8e8 Rd1b1
     4/12	00:00	       5.996	5.996	-0.16	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4
     5/12	00:00	      16.140	16.140	+0.20	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8a6 Bf4g5 Qf6g6 Bb5xa6 Qg6xa6 Qd5xd7 Qa6xa2
     6/13	00:00	      33.771	2.110	-0.13	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1
     7/20	00:00	     102.885	3.215	-0.17	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Qf6e5 Qb3b4
     7/20	00:00	     150.621	4.706	+0.04	Bf4e3 Nf6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Ne4d2 Nd5e7+ Qe6xe7 Re1xe7 Nd2xb3 a2xb3
     8/20	00:00	     250.483	3.975	+0.06	Bf4e3 Nf6xe4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Ne4d2 Re1xe6 Nd2xb3 Re6e7
     9/20	00:00	     850.702	5.453	-0.34	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 d7d6 Rd1b1 Bc8b7 Rf1e1
     9/24	00:00	   2.248.877	5.766	+0.03	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Qd5xd7 Qa6e2 Bf4c7 Qe2xe4 Rf1e1
    10/24	00:00	   2.543.323	5.819	-0.08	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Qd5xd7 Rf8d8 Qd7g4 Qa6xa2 Rd1d2
    11/24	00:00	   4.098.681	6.108	-0.22	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Rd1b1 Qa6e6 Rb1b7 Ra8e8 Qd5xe6 Re8xe6 Rf1e1
    12/26	00:01	   8.387.647	6.635	-0.22	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Rd1b1 Qa6e6 Rb1b7 Ra8e8 Qd5xe6 Re8xe6 Rf1e1
    13/31	00:02	  17.888.132	6.864	-0.15	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Rd1b1 Qa6f6 Bf4g5 Qf6e6 Rb1b7 Qe6xd5 e4xd5 h7h6 Bg5f4
    14/37	00:05	  40.100.947	7.120	-0.36	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Qb3xd5 Qe6xa6 Bf4d6 Rf8c8 Rd1b1 Rc8c6 Bd6e5 Bd4xe5 Qd5xe5 Qa6xa2 Rb1b8+ Rc6c8 Rb8xa8 Rc8xa8 Qe5xc5
    14/38	00:20	 135.312.954	6.616	-0.23	Rf1e1 Bc8b7 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 d7d6 e4e5 d6xe5 Qe3xe5 Qf6xe5 Re1xe5 Rf8d8 Rd1b1 Rd8d2 Re5xc5 Bb7e4 Rb1e1
    15/41	00:32	 209.058.091	6.473	-0.19	Rf1e1 Bc8b7 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4c3 Be3d2 Bc3xd2 Rd1xd2 Ra8e8 Rd2xd7 Re8xe4 Re1xe4 Bb7xe4 Bb5c4 Be4c6 Rd7xa7 Qf6a1+ Bc4f1 Qa1e1 a2a4
    16/45	00:53	 349.370.098	6.556	-0.13	Rf1e1 Bc8b7 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4c3 Be3d2 Bc3xd2 Rd1xd2 Bb7c6 Bb5xc6 Qf6xc6 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Re1c1 Rf8e8 f2f3 Qc6xd5 Rd2xd5
    17/45	01:28	 579.915.930	6.542	-0.17	Rf1e1 Bc8b7 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4c3 Be3d2 Bc3xd2 Rd1xd2 Bb7c6 Bb5xc6 Qf6xc6 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Re1c1 Rf8e8 f2f3 Qc6xd5 Rd2xd5 d7d6 Rc1b1
   10/29/2008 5:10:47 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 03:00
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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by Dann Corbit »

Chess Tiger

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 5:04:31 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: ChessTiger2007UCI

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move (ChessTiger2007UCI): Bb5-c4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:01
      2	00:01	         355	0	-0.68	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5
      2	00:01	         459	0	-0.56	Nd5c7 Qe6xe4 Nc7xa8 Qe4xf4
      3	00:01	         745	0	-0.14	Nd5c7 Qe6xb3 a2xb3
      4	00:01	       1.542	0	-0.34	Nd5c7 Qe6xe4 Nc7xa8 Qe4xf4 Bb5c4
      5	00:01	       3.321	0	-0.34	Nd5c7 Qe6xe4 Nc7xa8 Qe4xf4 Bb5c4
      6	00:01	       8.672	0	-0.38	Nd5c7 Qe6xe4 Nc7xa8 Qe4xf4 Qb3g3 Qf4xg3 h2xg3
      7	00:01	      14.193	0	-0.48	Nd5c7 Qe6xe4 Nc7xa8 Qe4xf4 Qb3g3 Qf4xg3 h2xg3
      7	00:01	      21.481	1.074.050	-0.14	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 a7a6 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bb5xd7
      8	00:01	      30.043	1.502.150	-0.09	Bf4e3 Nf6xd5 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3xd5 Qe6xd5 e4xd5
      9	00:01	      55.925	1.398.125	-0.11	Bf4e3 Nf6xd5 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3xd5 Qe6xd5 e4xd5 Ra8b8 Bb5c4
     10	00:01	     112.151	1.401.888	-0.11	Bf4e3 Nf6xd5 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Qb3xd5 Qe6xd5 e4xd5 Ra8b8 Bb5c4
     11	00:01	     204.372	1.277.325	-0.06	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 Nf6xd5 Rd1xd5 Bc8b7 Bb5xd7 Qe6e7 Qe3xc5 Qe7xc5 Rd5xc5 Bb7xe4
     12	00:01	     363.661	1.346.893	 0.00	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 Nf6xd5 Rd1xd5 d7d6 Rf1d1 Bc8b7 Rd5xd6 Qe6xe4 Qe3g5
     13	00:01	     630.274	1.370.161	 0.00	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 Nf6xd5 Rd1xd5 d7d6 Rf1d1 Bc8b7 Rd5xd6 Qe6xe4 Qe3xe4 Bb7xe4 Bb5c4
     14	00:01	   1.099.610	1.409.756	 0.00	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 Nf6xd5 Rd1xd5 d7d6 Rf1d1 Bc8b7 Rd5xd6 Qe6xe4 Qe3xe4 Bb7xe4 Bb5c4
     15	00:02	   2.036.519	1.394.876	-0.12	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8b7 Qd5xd4 Qf6xd4 Rd1xd4 Bb7xe4 Rd4xe4 Rb8xb5 Re4e7
     16	00:04	   4.073.360	1.399.780	-0.12	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 Nf6xd5 Rd1xd5 d7d6 Rf1d1 Bc8b7 Rd5xd6 Qe6xe4 Qe3xe4 Bb7xe4 Rd1e1 Rf8b8 Re1xe4 Rb8xb5 Re4e7
     17	00:06	   6.976.332	1.415.077	-0.06	Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3 Nf6xd5 Rd1xd5 d7d6 Rf1d1 Bc8b7 Rd5xd6 Qe6xe4 Qe3xe4 Bb7xe4 a2a4 Ra8b8 Rd1e1 Be4b7 Re1e7
     18	00:10	  12.748.319	1.432.395	-0.08	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5 Bc8b7 Qd5xd4 Qf6xd4 Rd1xd4 Bb7xe4 Bb5xd7 Be4b1 Bd7c6 Rb8b2 Rd4d7
     19	00:18	  25.179.919	1.452.129	 0.00	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 a7a5 Qa4c4 Rf8e8 f2f3 Qf6g5 a2a4 Qg5e3+ Rf1f2
     19	00:30	  41.614.257	1.439.442	+0.02	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 g2g3 Qf4g4 Qb7c7 Rd8a8 Rf1e1
     20	00:42	  59.387.277	1.446.354	+0.06	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3b7 Ra8d8 Rd1e1 Qf4d2 Re1e7 Kg8f8 Qb7e4 Qd2xa2 Qe4e1
     21	01:03	  91.685.972	1.461.597	+0.24	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Rd1d3 Qf4c7 Rf1b1 d7d6 Rd3b3 Rd8e8 Rb3b7
     22	01:31	 132.936.343	1.477.892	 0.00	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Rd1d3 Qf4h6 Rd3a3 Qh6d2
   10/29/2008 5:14:02 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 00:01

1 of 1 matching moves
10/29/2008 5:14:03 PM, Total time: 12:09:32 AM
Rated time: 00:01 = 1 Seconds
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Re: Positional Move Position

Post by Dann Corbit »

Crafty:

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 5:04:31 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Crafty221_x64_ja

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move (Crafty221_x64_ja): Bb5-c4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:08
      7	00:07	     255.140	34.571	-0.49	1. Be3 Nxd5 2. exd5 Qg4 3. Bxd4 cxd4 4. Qd3
      8	00:07	     427.666	57.949	-0.35	1. Be3 Nxe4 2. Bxd4 cxd4 3. Rxd4 Re8 4. Re1 Qg4
      8	00:07	     573.015	77.644	-0.35	1. Be3 Nxe4 2. Bxd4 cxd4 3. Rxd4 Re8 4. Re1 Qg4
      9	00:07	     673.660	91.281	-0.36	1. Be3 Nxe4 2. Bxd4 cxd4 3. Rxd4 Qe5 4. Rfd1 d6 5. Qd3
      9	00:07	   1.016.466	137.732	-0.36	1. Be3 Nxe4 2. Bxd4 cxd4 3. Rxd4 Qe5 4. Rfd1 d6 5. Qd3
     10	00:07	   1.732.758	234.791	-0.49	1. Be3 Rb8 2. Bxd4 cxd4 3. Nxf6+ Qxf6 4. Qd5 Re8 5. a4 a6 6. Bc4
     10	00:07	   3.318.074	440.647	-0.47	1. Nc7 Qxe4 2. Bd6 Bb7 3. Qh3 Rab8 4. Bxf8 Rxf8 5. Rfe1 Qf4
     10	00:08	   2.291.320	275.730	-0.05	1. Bc4 Nh5 2. Nc7 Qxe4 3. Bd6 Bb7 4. Qh3 Qg6 5. Bxf8 Rxf8 6. Rfe1
     10	00:08	   7.819.294	940.949	-0.05	1. Bc4 Nh5 2. Nc7 Qxe4 3. Bd6 Bb7 4. Qh3 Qg6 5. Bxf8 Rxf8 6. Rfe1
     11	00:08	  11.372.297	1.287.915	-0.15	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Qxd5 Qxa6 4. Be5 Bxe5 5. Qxe5 Qc6 6. Rd6
     11	00:08	  12.438.349	1.408.646	-0.15	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Qxd5 Qxa6 4. Be5 Bxe5 5. Qxe5 Qc6 6. Rd6
     12	00:09	  16.583.260	1.725.625	+0.10	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7
     12	00:09	  18.732.393	1.897.912	+0.10	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7
     13	00:11	  27.337.032	2.485.184	+0.10	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7
     13	00:11	  31.683.824	2.880.347	+0.10	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7
     14	00:14	  49.794.036	3.830.310	-0.20	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rb8 7. Qxd7 Rb2
     14	00:17	  74.172.837	4.363.108	-0.20	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rb8 7. Qxd7 Rb2
     15	00:26	 130.820.074	5.031.541	+0.06	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7 d5 8. Qe7
     15	00:29	 154.744.109	5.336.003	+0.06	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7 d5 8. Qe7
     16	00:49	 299.107.157	5.982.143	+0.10	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7 d5 8. Qe7 Rd6
     16	00:56	 345.397.332	6.167.809	+0.10	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7 d5 8. Qe7 Rd6
     17	02:05	 828.441.601	6.627.532	+0.24	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7 d5 8. Qe7 Ra8 9. Qe2
     17	02:20	 934.571.091	6.628.163	+0.24	1. Bc4 Ba6 2. Bxa6 Nxd5 3. Bc4 Qxe4 4. Bxd5 Qxf4 5. Bxa8 Rxa8 6. Qb7 Rd8 7. Qxa7 d5 8. Qe7 Ra8 9. Qe2
   10/29/2008 5:17:10 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 00:08

1 of 1 matching moves
10/29/2008 5:17:11 PM, Total time: 12:12:40 AM
Rated time: 00:08 = 8 Seconds
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Re: Positional Move Position

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Shredder

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Analysis from Q:\epd\sub\speculate.epd   
10/29/2008 5:04:31 PM Level: 60 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Shredder

1) Bc4!?; am Nxf6 Be3;  
    Searching move: Bb5-c4, Nd5xf6, Bf4-e3
    Best move (Shredder): Bb5-c4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:00
     2/9-	00:00	         352	1.733	-0.09	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6
     2/10	00:00	         963	4.743	-0.09	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7
     3/12	00:00	       4.363	21.492	-0.09	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6
     4/11	00:00	      15.794	77.802	-0.16	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bd4xe3 Qb3xe3
     5/16	00:00	      33.310	152.100	-0.33	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 f2f3 d7d5 e4xd5
     6/14	00:00	      79.495	339.722	-0.22	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Bb5d3 Ra8b8 f2f4
     7/17	00:00	     184.127	694.818	-0.28	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Ra8c8 Bb5xd7 Rc8b8
     8/19	00:00	     416.986	1.215.702	-0.32	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Ra8b8 Qb3c4 Bb7c6 a2a4
     9/20	00:00	     741.754	1.637.426	-0.22	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Bb7c6 Bb5c4 Rf8e8 Qb3d3 Ra8b8
    10/23	00:00	   1.265.937	1.978.026	-0.36	Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Bf4e3 Bc8b7 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rf1e1 Ra8b8 Qb3c4 Bb7c6 Bb5xc6 Rb8b2 f2f3
    10/23+	00:00	   1.488.747	2.073.463	-0.35	Bf4e3
    10/23	00:01	   2.523.592	2.277.610	-0.18	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 a7a6 Bb5xd7 Bc8xd7 Qa4xd7 Rb8b2 Rd1xd4 Rb2xa2
    11/25	00:01	   3.391.053	2.388.065	-0.20	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 a7a6 Bb5d3 d7d6 f2f4 Bc8g4 Rd1c1 Rb8b2 Qa4xa6
    12/26	00:02	   5.670.980	2.541.900	-0.24	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3d5
    13/30	00:04	  11.493.629	2.669.212	-0.27	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 Rf8e8 Bb5d3 Bc8b7
    13/31+	00:06	  16.322.970	2.739.212	-0.26	Bb5c4
    13/35	00:06	  18.460.498	2.771.430	-0.23	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Rd1b1 c5c4
    14/31-	00:08	  22.502.690	2.800.932	-0.48	Bb5c4 Bc8a6
    14/32	00:08	  24.067.509	2.815.242	-0.48	Bb5c4 Bc8a6
    14/32+	00:08	  24.704.981	2.817.951	-0.47	Bf4e3
    14/32	00:10	  28.699.404	2.812.839	-0.32	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 Rf8e8 Bb5c4 Re8xe4 f2f3 Re4e8 Qa4xa7 Rb8b2 Qa7xd4 Qf6xd4+ Rd1xd4 g7g5
    15/30	00:15	  44.632.255	2.818.760	-0.34	Bf4e3 Ra8b8 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Nd5xf6+ Qe6xf6 Qb3a4 d7d6 Bb5a6 Rb8b2 Ba6xc8 Rf8xc8 Qa4xa7 Qf6e5 Rd1xd4 Rb2xa2 Qa7xa2 Qe5xd4 Rf1e1
    15/31+	00:16	  46.339.367	2.826.260	-0.33	Bb5c4
    15/31	00:17	  48.316.161	2.833.626	-0.33	Bb5c4 Bc8a6
    16/41	00:25	  72.479.517	2.862.653	-0.25	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Rd1e1 Qf4d2 Re1d1 Qd2e2 Rd1b1 Qe2e6 Qd5g5
    17/43	00:42	 120.508.180	2.859.981	-0.08	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Rd1e1 Qf4f6
    18/43	01:08	 194.408.031	2.841.308	-0.10	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Rd1e1 d7d6 Re1e7 Rd8f8 g2g3 Qf4d2 Kg1g2
    19/49	02:25	 412.021.793	2.825.046	-0.11	Bb5c4 Bc8a6 Bc4xa6 Nf6xd5 Ba6c4 Qe6xe4 Bc4xd5 Qe4xf4 Bd5xa8 Rf8xa8 Qb3d5 Ra8d8 Rd1e1 Qf4d2 Kg1h1 Qd2d3 Re1d1 Qd3g6 Rd1e1 d7d6 Re1e7 Rd8c8 Re7xa7
   10/29/2008 5:26:54 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:03:00, Rated time: 00:00

1 of 1 matching moves
10/29/2008 5:26:55 PM, Total time: 12:22:24 AM
Rated time: 00:00 = 0 Seconds