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Nice Inexpensive NetPC for Your Chess Programs

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http://promos.asus.com/US/1000HE/ASUS/index.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-e ... ,6940.html

Are you downsizing? Do you need a computer that runs on 2.5 watts and clocks at 1.66 GHz for almost 10 hours? Need WinXP and a 160 GB hard drive? Don't buy a $400 USD PDA or Raspberry. Buy this machine.

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Re: Nice Inexpensive NetPC for Your Chess Programs

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Sony have also released a smaller netbook pc which is much smaller but costs alot more.But they are still to big for my shirt pockets so the convenience is not there for me.
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Alex,

With about 10 hours of play time and a keyboard that is 92% the size of a standard board plus a screen that you can see full analyses on, I think that this ASUS machine is a dream. I may also use it for astronomy and writing. Not too shabby.

Tj

PS One guy said that the ten inch screen was too big. I've heard it all. :lol:

Cubeman wrote:Sony have also released a smaller netbook pc which is much smaller but costs alot more.But they are still to big for my shirt pockets so the convenience is not there for me.
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Re: Nice Inexpensive NetPC for Your Chess Programs

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Hello,

just by luck we played two games yesterday on two Netbooks via Playchess. Here are the games. The interesting part might be the depth they reached.

Deep Sjeng WC2008 and Shredder Bonn. Deep Sjeng played on 2 Threads (HT) Shredder used just one (on purpose!). The 1.6GHz Atom is (with one thread) about as fast as a 1.1GHz P3. I think that is good enough for 99.5% of all players!

Here are the games:


[Event "60m + 15s, rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.02.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "TryMe, Netbook Shredder Bo"]
[Black "Homer, Deep Sjeng WC2008"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D57"]
[WhiteElo "2484"]
[BlackElo "2439"]
[PlyCount "146"]
[EventDate "2009.02.03"]
[EventType "rapid"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]

1. d4 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 2. c4 {B 0} e6 {B 0} 3. Nc3 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 4. Nf3 {B 0}
Be7 {B 0} 5. Bg5 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 6. Bh4 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 7. e3 {B 0} Ne4 {B 0} 8.
Bxe7 {B 0} Qxe7 {B 0} 9. cxd5 {B 0} Nxc3 {B 0} 10. bxc3 {B 0} exd5 {B 0} 11.
Qb3 {B 0} Rd8 {B 0} 12. c4 {B 0} dxc4 {B 0} 13. Bxc4 {-0.05/15 109} Nc6 {0.21/
16 253} 14. Be2 {0.00/15 0} Rd6 {0.22/16 368 (Na5)} 15. Rc1 {-0.02/14 216 (0-0)
} Be6 {0.22/16 147} 16. Qb2 {0.00/16 90} Bd5 {0.22/16 35} 17. O-O {0.00/14 102}
Re8 {0.19/16 25 (Rg6)} 18. Rfd1 {0.00/14 160 (Kh1)} b6 {0.06/14 93} 19. a3 {0.
00/15 105 (Kh1)} Red8 {0.09/15 100} 20. Nd2 {0.00/13 115 (Tf1)} Na5 {0.15/14 90
} 21. Re1 {-0.10/15 421 (Tc2)} c6 {-0.02/15 212 (Bb7)} 22. Qb4 {0.00/14 183
(Ld3)} Qg5 {0.00/15 119} 23. Bf3 {0.00/14 0} Rg6 {-0.07/14 24 (Bxf3)} 24. g3 {
0.16/14 216} Rgd6 {-0.01/17 0 (h5)} 25. Ne4 {0.39/11 48} Bxe4 {-0.06/16 8} 26.
Bxe4 {0.26/13 9} Qg4 {0.00/14 33 (h5)} 27. Bg2 {0.38/16 122} h5 {0.00/15 0
(Qg6)} 28. h3 {0.44/14 134 (Db1)} Qe6 {0.22/15 90 (Qf5)} 29. h4 {0.42/16 181}
Qf6 {0.14/16 46 (R6d7)} 30. Qa4 {0.30/15 496 (Dc3)} Re6 {0.26/15 102 (Qg6)} 31.
Qb4 {0.37/14 58 (Dc2)} Red6 {0.00/19 104} 32. Qc3 {0.47/15 0} Kh7 {0.25/16 78
(Qe6)} 33. Rc2 {0.45/16 97} Kg8 {0.22/17 0 (Qg6)} 34. Rec1 {0.46/15 125} g6 {
0.22/17 0 (c5)} 35. Qb4 {0.49/15 66 (Kh2)} Kg7 {0.22/16 125} 36. Be4 {0.60/16
0 (Te1)} Re6 {0.25/16 91 (Qe6)} 37. Bh1 {0.49/19 232} Red6 {0.23/17 0} 38. Bg2
{0.50/16 48} R8d7 {0.25/17 35} 39. Be4 {0.40/16 176} Re6 {0.22/16 0} 40. Bg2 {
0.43/13 7 (Lh1)} Red6 {0.00/20 64} 41. Be4 {0.42/15 0} Re6 {0.00/18 53} 42. Bh1
{0.41/16 0} Red6 {0.22/16 53} 43. Bg2 {0.44/15 1 (Tb1)} Rd8 {0.00/19 69} 44.
Rb1 {0.44/16 115} g5 {0.00/16 369 (Qf5)} 45. hxg5 {0.37/11 20} Qxg5 {0.00/16 41
} 46. d5 {0.21/13 28 (Te1)} cxd5 {0.00/15 92 (c5)} 47. Rd1 {0.32/11 34 (Tc7)}
Nc6 {0.02/13 63 (Qf6)} 48. Qb5 {0.41/12 74 (Db2+)} Qg4 {0.11/13 75 (Qg6)} 49.
Rd3 {0.43/11 33} Qf5 {0.22/14 116 (Qg6)} 50. Rcd2 {0.42/12 47} Ne7 {0.27/13 5}
51. Qa4 {0.52/12 20} Rc8 {0.23/13 6 (a5)} 52. e4 {0.57/11 42 (Td1)} Qg4 {0.34/
13 53} 53. Bf3 {0.57/12 0} Qg5 {0.26/13 28} 54. exd5 {0.48/12 18} h4 {0.29/12
12 (Ng6)} 55. Qxh4 {0.50/12 37} Qxh4 {0.52/14 2} 56. gxh4 {0.86/12 0} Ng6 {0.
37/14 19 (Nf5)} 57. h5 {0.24/14 39 (Td4)} Ne5 {0.37/15 34} 58. Rb3 {0.18/15 0}
Kh6 {0.47/15 138 (Nxf3+)} 59. Be2 {0.36/14 32} f5 {0.51/15 2 (Rc5)} 60. Rd4 {
0.53/13 32 (Te3)} Rcd8 {0.18/16 41 (Ng4)} 61. Ra4 {0.21/14 37 (Tf4)} R8d7 {0.
20/16 38} 62. Rf4 {0.32/15 1 (Tb5)} Kg5 {0.00/17 42} 63. Rd4 {0.27/16 8} f4 {
0.17/16 12 (Kh6)} 64. Rh3 {-0.01/16 33} f3 {0.06/16 6 (Rxd5)} 65. Bc4 {0.10/16
114} Nxc4 {0.04/18 0 (Rh7)} 66. Rxc4 {0.31/16 13} Rxd5 {0.15/15 4} 67. h6 {0.
28/15 21} Rh7 {0.10/15 14} 68. Rg3+ {0.17/14 16} Kh5 {0.14/15 5} 69. Rxf3 {0.
19/14 21} Kxh6 {0.13/16 12} 70. Rh3+ {0.12/12 11 (Tg3)} Rh5 {0.10/16 39} 71.
Rg3 {0.20/15 0} Rd7 {0.12/15 40 (Rg5)} 72. Rc6+ {0.16/13 68 (Tcg4)} Kh7 {0.04/
13 32} 73. Kf1 {0.13/13 0 (Te6)} Rf7 {0.00/16 29 TryMe,Netbook Shredder Bon
offers a draw (Lag: Av=0.76s, max=2.8s)} 1/2-1/2

[Event "60m + 15s, rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2009.02.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Homer, Deep Sjeng WC2008"]
[Black "TryMe, Netbook Shredder Bo"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C92"]
[WhiteElo "2441"]
[BlackElo "2482"]
[PlyCount "117"]
[EventDate "2009.02.03"]
[EventType "rapid"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]

1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {B 0} 3. Bb5 {B 0} a6 {B 0} 4. Ba4 {B 0}
Nf6 {-0.10/11 8} 5. O-O {B 0 (Bxc6)} Be7 {B 0} 6. Re1 {B 0} b5 {B 0} 7. Bb3 {
B 0} d6 {B 0} 8. c3 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 9. h3 {B 0} Bb7 {B 0} 10. d4 {B 0} Re8 {B 0
} 11. Nbd2 {B 0} Bf8 {B 0} 12. a4 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 13. d5 {0.27/17 238} Ne7 {0.
25/16 179} 14. Nh2 {0.24/16 78 (Nf1)} Ng6 {0.33/17 387} 15. Ndf1 {0.36/17 0}
Be7 {0.32/15 148 (Dd7)} 16. Ng3 {0.41/16 99} Nd7 {0.42/15 361 (c5)} 17. Nf5 {
0.38/16 230} Bg5 {0.39/16 0 (Sc5)} 18. Bxg5 {0.51/16 188} Qxg5 {0.36/17 0} 19.
Re3 {0.48/15 44 (Nf3)} Qd8 {0.62/16 287 (Teb8)} 20. Bc2 {0.40/16 303 (Rg3)} Nh4
{0.56/14 148} 21. Nxh4 {0.46/16 0} Qxh4 {0.55/13 12} 22. Rg3 {0.46/15 101 (Nf1)
} Nf8 {0.40/14 104 (Kh8)} 23. Ng4 {0.41/16 178} Reb8 {0.45/16 0} 24. Bd3 {0.53/
16 73 (Qf1)} Ng6 {0.36/16 99} 25. b4 {0.29/16 325 (axb5)} Bc8 {0.00/14 105
(Sf4)} 26. axb5 {0.02/16 99 (Ne3)} axb5 {-0.12/17 114} 27. Rxa8 {-0.15/16 0}
Rxa8 {-0.16/17 81} 28. Bxb5 {-0.16/16 4 (Ne3)} h5 {-0.29/16 91} 29. Ne3 {-0.19/
15 0} Qxe4 {-0.20/17 105} 30. Bd3 {-0.26/16 0} Qf4 {-0.13/15 162} 31. Rf3 {-0.
41/15 0 (Bxg6)} Qh6 {-0.35/16 60} 32. Bxg6 {-0.19/16 16} Qxg6 {-0.36/13 0} 33.
Rg3 {-0.28/16 57} Qh6 {-0.56/17 90 (Dh7)} 34. Nc4 {-0.31/16 42} h4 {-0.72/16
51 (Ta2)} 35. Re3 {-0.34/15 57} f5 {-0.59/18 44 (Ta2)} 36. Na5 {-0.28/17 73} f4
{-0.62/17 0 (Dg5)} 37. Re1 {-0.42/17 108} Bf5 {-0.80/17 0} 38. Kh1 {-0.42/15 36
} e4 {-0.86/15 56 (Dg5)} 39. Qe2 {-0.64/15 51} Qg5 {-0.88/16 18} 40. Rg1 {-0.
54/15 16 (c4)} Bg6 {-1.19/15 77 (e3)} 41. Qg4 {-0.75/16 57 (Nc6)} Qxg4 {-1.58/
17 23} 42. hxg4 {-0.86/18 37} Re8 {-1.50/19 316} 43. Kh2 {-1.14/20 0 (Re1)} e3
{-2.01/20 51} 44. fxe3 {-1.11/19 3 (f3)} fxe3 {-1.71/20 57} 45. Re1 {-1.10/19
14} Bd3 {-1.73/20 87} 46. Nb3 {-1.15/19 0 (Nc6)} Bc4 {-1.71/19 124} 47. Nd4 {
-1.34/19 0} Bxd5 {-1.74/17 12} 48. Kh3 {-1.26/19 92} Bc4 {-1.85/19 0} 49. Kxh4
{-1.32/19 74} e2 {-1.79/18 31} 50. Kg3 {-1.34/19 35} Re3+ {-1.46/19 279} 51.
Kf2 {-1.32/20 0 (Kf4)} Rxc3 {-2.50/16 20} 52. Nxe2 {-1.25/18 10} Rc2 {-3.69/18
22} 53. Ke3 {-1.26/18 22 (Kf3)} Bxe2 {-4.77/20 71 (Tb2)} 54. Rxe2 {-0.80/17 25}
Rxe2+ {-5.29/20 0} 55. Kxe2 {-1.01/19 29} Kf7 {-4.68/23 6} 56. Ke3 {-1.02/21 62
} g5 {-18.06/23 23 (Kf6)} 57. b5 {-2.22/22 47 (Kd3)} d5 {-27/25 64} 58. Kd4 {
-5.21/24 60} Ke6 {-25/23 0} 59. Kd3 {-10.30/21 42 (Kc5) Homer,Deep Sjeng
WC2008 gibt auf (Lag: Av=0.49s, max=2.5s)} 0-1

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Re: Nice Inexpensive NetPC for Your Chess Programs

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tjfroh wrote:Alex,

With about 10 hours of play time and a keyboard that is 92% the size of a standard board plus a screen that you can see full analyses on, I think that this ASUS machine is a dream. I may also use it for astronomy and writing. Not too shabby.

Tj

PS One guy said that the ten inch screen was too big. I've heard it all. :lol:

Cubeman wrote:Sony have also released a smaller netbook pc which is much smaller but costs alot more.But they are still to big for my shirt pockets so the convenience is not there for me.
Hey uncle Timbo,
I didn't know that you are interested in astronomy,all I know is your limited knowledge in the paramedicine field :roll:
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Hey uncle Timbo,
I didn't know that you are interested in astronomy. All I know is my limited knowledge in the paramedicine field.

Wael,

Yes Mr. Deeb you are a renaissance kind of guy. You should get yourself a nice 500 mm diameter F/4 Newtonian scope like I have.

Uncle Tj

PS Isn't there a movie director by the name of Wael Deeb?
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Re: Nice Inexpensive NetPC for Your Chess Programs

Post by glorfindel »

I am very interested in a portable computer for many things including chess.
But since the topic is battery duration, I will wait for something with an ARM processor. They consume much less power, I have read about 100 times less than intel when idle and about 18 times less at typical usage. The ARM-based laptops will be hopefully running without need of charging for days. The fact that most modern cell phones have ARM processors and their batteries last so long is encouraging.