CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

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Poll ended at Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:07 am

Glaurung
22
15%
Deep Sjeng
25
17%
Fruit
23
16%
Ktulu
11
8%
Thinker
25
17%
Ikarus
3
2%
Crafty
11
8%
Diep
4
3%
Bright
16
11%
Other
4
3%
 
Total votes: 144

swami
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CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

Post by swami »

Participants list can be found here:

http://cctchess.com/participants.html

Rybka is not in the poll, It will obviously finish in the first placing anyway.Just wanted to see how other engines fare in terms of expectations. I certainly don't want Bright to keep the burden of carrying higher expectations.

PS: hint, hint, wink, Zach. Sssh. :)
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

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Thinker
Deep Sjeng
Fruit
Bright
Glaurung
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

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Graham Banks wrote:Thinker
Deep Sjeng
Fruit
Bright
Glaurung
I think it's pretty difficult to predict. Ikarus and Diep certainly can pull in a surprise. After all for what we know, Ikarus(?) had won the blitz world champs once and Diep finished 3rd IIRC. Latest TwistedLogic seems to be better than the most commercials. It's playing well at ICC too.

(2) Fruit
(3) Deep Sjeng
(4) Thinker
(5) Glaurung
(6) Ikarus
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

Post by playwaycool »

swami wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:Thinker
Deep Sjeng
Fruit
Bright
Glaurung
I think it's pretty difficult to predict. Ikarus and Diep certainly can pull in a surprise. After all for what we know, Ikarus(?) had won the blitz world champs once and Diep finished 3rd IIRC. Latest TwistedLogic seems to be better than the most commercials. It's playing well at ICC too.

(2) Fruit
(3) Deep Sjeng
(4) Thinker
(5) Glaurung
(6) Ikarus



Generally, Underdog could be a favorite in tournament play whether it is computer tournament or human one. I would like to consider Ktulu an underdog, the only major con it isn't MP but I think Ktulu might do very well. I'm tuning the opening book that will be used for Glaurung & Ktulu, i wouldn't be suprised to see Ktulu win or draw a top commercial program also same could very well be said for Glaurung


(2) Glaurung
(3) Fruit
(4) Bright
(5) Thinker
(6) Ktulu
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

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playwaycool wrote: Generally, Underdog could be a favorite in tournament play whether it is computer tournament or human one. I would like to consider Ktulu an underdog, the only major con it isn't MP but I think Ktulu might do very well. I'm tuning the opening book that will be used for Glaurung & Ktulu, i wouldn't be suprised to see Ktulu win or draw a top commercial program also same could very well be said for Glaurung
Since Bright is going to play in a 32 bit Q6600, I don't have high expectations for the engine. Blame the hardware rather than the engine I'd say :-)

Ikarus is vastly underrated, Diep also. Understandable that private engines wouldn't be that popular even when they win official tourneys before.
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

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swami wrote:
playwaycool wrote: Generally, Underdog could be a favorite in tournament play whether it is computer tournament or human one. I would like to consider Ktulu an underdog, the only major con it isn't MP but I think Ktulu might do very well. I'm tuning the opening book that will be used for Glaurung & Ktulu, i wouldn't be suprised to see Ktulu win or draw a top commercial program also same could very well be said for Glaurung
Since Bright is going to play in a 32 bit Q6600, I don't have high expectations for the engine. Blame the hardware rather than the engine I'd say :-)

Ikarus is vastly underrated, Diep also. Understandable that private engines wouldn't be that popular even when they win official tourneys before.



We will see. Bright is new addition to CCT tournament and it's going to be a challenging engine in the tournament. I agree with Ikarus it is underrated and Diep could very well surprise many as well, since it's going to be played under 8 cores it is a plus!


Still, i think Glaurung and perhaps the underdog Ktulu could surprise some. I also think Fruit & Thinker will be a serious challenge for Rybka, I wouldn't count out Glaurung 8-)
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

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playwaycool wrote:
swami wrote:
playwaycool wrote: Generally, Underdog could be a favorite in tournament play whether it is computer tournament or human one. I would like to consider Ktulu an underdog, the only major con it isn't MP but I think Ktulu might do very well. I'm tuning the opening book that will be used for Glaurung & Ktulu, i wouldn't be suprised to see Ktulu win or draw a top commercial program also same could very well be said for Glaurung
Since Bright is going to play in a 32 bit Q6600, I don't have high expectations for the engine. Blame the hardware rather than the engine I'd say :-)

Ikarus is vastly underrated, Diep also. Understandable that private engines wouldn't be that popular even when they win official tourneys before.



We will see. Bright is new addition to CCT tournament and it's going to be a challenging engine in the tournament. I agree with Ikarus it is underrated and Diep could very well surprise many as well, since it's going to be played under 8 cores it is a plus!


Still, i think Glaurung and perhaps the underdog Ktulu could surprise some. I also think Fruit & Thinker will be a serious challenge for Rybka, I wouldn't count out Glaurung 8-)
We shouldn't forget Weid. It's totally unknown to many but when you research its history you'd find that it had some excellent record in the previous CCT's IIRC.

Btw, please pm me when you go online tomorrow, we could chat via yahoo messenger before the tourney starts. I may need some help on which commands to use and how to configure and use tools in chess partner. Thanks!
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

Post by Gian-Carlo Pascutto »

Nice too see so many Deep Sjeng fans.

I will come to CCT with a surprise. It might very well be the kind of surprise where I crash and burn, though :D
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Re: CCT 11: Top 5 Guesses?

Post by swami »

First Round pairing's up:

http://cctchess.com/r1.htm

After further research, my best guess would be along this line: 2.Deep Sjeng 3.Thinker 4.Glaurung 5.Fruit 6.Ikarus