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fern
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Strelka

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Yesterday I downloaded last version of Strelka, I played it and of course I saw it is a fantastically strong engine.
Now, my question:
Was it probed as a clone of Rybka or not?
I did not follow that discussion entirely when it happened so I am in the open about this.
If it is probed as clone, I will uninstall it.
I do not want to harm Vass.

Fern
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Re: Strelka

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fern wrote:Yesterday I downloaded last version of Strelka, I played it and of course I saw it is a fantastically strong engine.
Now, my question:
Was it probed as a clone of Rybka or not?
I did not follow that discussion entirely when it happened so I am in the open about this.
If it is probed as clone, I will uninstall it.
I do not want to harm Vass.

Fern
You're best to uninstall it. Just my opinion.
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fern
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Re: Strelka

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I will wait some more opinions, but for the time being I will stop to use it. Anyway I already have Rybka.

thanks
fern
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Re: Strelka

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fern wrote:I will wait some more opinions
You're bound to get plenty of those for sure. Very controversial topic. :P
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Re: Strelka

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fern wrote:I will wait some more opinions, but for the time being I will stop to use it. Anyway I already have Rybka.

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fern
I don't see why you'd want to use it, unless you were interested in the source. It's too similar to the free Rybka's to be very interesting. However, I don't really see its use causing any further damage to Vas at this point.
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Re: Strelka

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fern wrote:Yesterday I downloaded last version of Strelka, I played it and of course I saw it is a fantastically strong engine.
Now, my question:
Was it probed as a clone of Rybka or not?
I did not follow that discussion entirely when it happened so I am in the open about this.
If it is probed as clone, I will uninstall it.
I do not want to harm Vass.

Fern
Most clones are not to good. Except Toga. Not bad at all.

I like to collect all clones and have clone vs. clone. :)

Best to you,

Gerold.
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Re: Strelka

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fern wrote:Yesterday I downloaded last version of Strelka, I played it and of course I saw it is a fantastically strong engine.
Now, my question:
Was it probed as a clone of Rybka or not?
I did not follow that discussion entirely when it happened so I am in the open about this.
If it is probed as clone, I will uninstall it.
I do not want to harm Vass.

Fern
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I knew Belka and Strelka were a band but until today I had never heard any of their songs. I'm listening now to "New Organ" It has a funky beat to it. If you have a deadline to finish at night, or if you are a programmer putting the last touches on your tournament entry, this works like a cup of strong coffee. Also "God wants to get it", some good music for a road movie I think!

On their webpage they are complaining a certain Yuri has been plagiarizing their original music with the help of a computer..
Lately, user friendly operating systems made a lot of our original work obsolete because any Yuri, Oleg or Anatoli could produce the same sounds, so we went back to our old fashioned instruments.
Yuri? Yuri? No it, couldn't be, could it?

Regards, Eelco
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Re: Strelka

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fern wrote:Yesterday I downloaded last version of Strelka, I played it and of course I saw it is a fantastically strong engine.
Now, my question:
Was it probed as a clone of Rybka or not?
I did not follow that discussion entirely when it happened so I am in the open about this.
If it is probed as clone, I will uninstall it.
I do not want to harm Vass.

Fern
Vas certainly claimed it was a clone.
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Re: Strelka

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It is clear that information was reverse engineered from Rybka.
Yuri even admitted as much.

The "100% identical" stuff is clearly baloney (the size of the files and the modules contained are wildly different).

At any rate, it is clear that the main ideas in Strelka were borrowed from Rybka.
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Re: Strelka

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Strelka is mainly based on Fruit. Osipov claims that in the last version (Strelka 3 R) search of Strelka is combined with Rybka 3 evaluation as a kind of scientific experiment.
Very interesting engine, not anything close to Rybka 1.0 beta (regarding style things).
Just my 2 cents.
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