How to kill Naum 4, playing you WITHOUT YOUR QUEEN !!! 2009

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How to kill Naum 4, playing you WITHOUT YOUR QUEEN !!! 2009

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How to kill Naum 4, playing you WITHOUT YOUR QUEEN !!! 2009

I was thinking, that by a human being, "to kill " the Top Chess Softwares running in a hard hardware, was past tense. Lgends from 2005, or somethinmg like that, when, the Queen Fritz, fail playing humans being WHITOUT THE HUMAN BEING QUEEN !!!

... but our olders had teached to us, "history repeats, that time was the tourn for the Suoer Software "Naum 4 (4 CPUs): 16.6 plies; 4.043kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz; and engine, that plays over 3.000 elo, the more serous oponent for the extraordinary Rybka 3.
:shock: :shock: [Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2009.08.25"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "GEISTERJÄGER"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A40"]
[WhiteElo "2076"]
[BlackElo "2596"]
[Annotator "RESTREPO,PABLO"]
[PlyCount "528"]
[EventDate "2009.08.25"]
[BlackTeam "Turnuva daveti su kisiden: Mürselbulut odada "]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {1} c6 {B 0} 2. e3 {0} Nf6 {4} 3. c3 {0.49/18 0} d5 {0.13/17 3} 4. f4 {9}
Bf5 {-0.34/18 6} 5. Qd3 {1} Bxd3 {2} 6. Bxd3 {-5.25/11 0} Nbd7 {5} 7. Nf3 {-5.
24/11 0} e6 {6} 8. O-O {-5.24/11 0} g6 {4} 9. Re1 {-5.24/11 0} a5 {4} 10. Nbd2
{-5.24/11 0} Qb8 {-5.24/11 3} 11. Nf1 {1} Bd6 {-5.25/11 6} 12. Re2 {1} O-O {-5.
24/11 2} 13. Kh1 {0} a4 {-5.24/18 2} 14. a3 {1} b6 {-5.24/19 2} 15. Kg1 {1} h6
{-5.24/19 2} 16. Kh1 {1} h5 {-5.24/19 2} 17. g3 {1} c5 {-5.24/19 2} 18. h4 {1}
Re8 {-5.24/18 2} 19. Kg2 {3} c4 {-5.24/11 2} 20. Bc2 {1} b5 {-5.24/21 2} 21.
Bd2 {2} Qb6 {-5.24/19 2} 22. Bd1 {1} Ne4 {-5.24/20 2} 23. Be1 {2} f5 {-5.24/21
2} 24. Rc2 {2} Rec8 {-5.24/19 2} 25. Ra2 {1} Ra7 {-5.24/19 1} 26. Ra1 {0} Kg7 {
-5.24/21 3} 27. Ra2 {0} Be7 {-5.24/19 1} 28. Ra1 {0} Ndf6 {-5.24/20 1} 29. Ra2
{0} Ng4 {-5.24/19 2} 30. Ra1 {2} Bd6 {-5.24/20 1} 31. Re2 {1} Rd7 {-5.24/19 2}
32. Ra2 {0} Re8 {-5.24/18 1} 33. Ra1 {0} Rf7 {-5.24/20 2} 34. Ra2 {0} Rc8 {-5.
24/19 2} 35. Ra1 {0} Rd8 {-5.24/20 2} 36. Ra2 {0} Qa5 {-5.24/20 2} 37. Ra1 {1}
Rc8 {-5.24/20 1} 38. Ra2 {0} Rd7 {-5.24/20 2} 39. Ra1 {0} Rb7 {-5.24/20 2} 40.
Ra2 {0} Rf7 {-5.24/18 1} 41. Ra1 {0} Rd7 {-5.24/18 1} 42. Ra2 {0} Rb7 {-5.24/
18 1} 43. Ra1 {0} Rd8 {-5.24/18 1} 44. Ra2 {0} Re8 {-5.24/18 1} 45. Ra1 {0} Rf7
{-5.24/18 1} 46. Ra2 {0} Rd7 {-5.24/18 1} 47. Ra1 {0} Qa6 {-5.24/18 1} 48. Ra2
{0} Qc6 {-5.24/19 1} 49. Ra1 {0} Nef6 {-5.24/18 1} 50. Ra2 {0} Qb6 {-5.24/20 1}
51. Ra1 {0} Rc8 {-5.24/18 1} 52. Ra2 {0} Rf7 {-5.24/18 1} 53. Ra1 {0} Qc6 {-5.
24/20 1} 54. Ra2 {0} Nh6 {-5.24/20 1} 55. Ra1 {0} Re7 {-5.24/21 1} 56. Ra2 {0}
Ne4 {-5.24/21 1} 57. Ra1 {1} Ng4 {-5.24/16 1} 58. Ra2 {0} Ra7 {-5.24/19 1} 59.
Ra1 {0} Rd8 {-5.24/17 1} 60. Ra2 {0} Rb7 {-5.24/19 1} 61. Ra1 {0} Rf7 {-5.24/
19 1} 62. Ra2 {0} Ra8 {-5.24/17 1} 63. Ra1 {0} Qb6 {-5.24/19 1} 64. Ra2 {0} Rd7
{-5.24/17 1} 65. Ra1 {0} Rf8 {-5.24/19 1} 66. Ra2 {0} Qc6 {-5.24/17 1} 67. Ra1
{0} Ra7 {-5.24/18 3} 68. Ra2 {0} Nh6 {-5.24/15 1} 69. Ra1 {0} Qa6 {-5.24/11 1}
70. Ra2 {0} Qc8 {-5.17/11 1} 71. Ra1 {0} Rf6 {-4.43/12 1} 72. Ra2 {0} Be7 {-4.
43/15 2} 73. Ra1 {0} b4 {-4.43/16 1} 74. axb4 {5} Qc6 {-4.43/21 2} 75. Ra3 {0}
Qe8 {-4.43/16 0} 76. Kg1 {1} Rf7 {-4.43/15 0} 77. Kg2 {0} Ng4 {-4.43/18 0} 78.
Kg1 {1} Bd6 {-4.43/16 0} 79. Kg2 {0} Qb5 {-4.43/19 1} 80. Kg1 {1} Qc6 {-4.43/
15 0} 81. Kg2 {0} Ra8 {-4.43/18 1} 82. Kg1 {0} Rb7 {-4.43/15 0} 83. Kg2 {0} Qb5
{-4.43/15 0} 84. Kg1 {1} Rd7 {-4.43/15 0} 85. Kg2 {0} Qc6 {-4.43/14 0} 86. Kg1
{0} Rdd8 {-4.43/15 0} 87. Kg2 {0} Ra7 {-4.43/17 0} 88. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {-4.43/15 0}
89. Kg2 {0} Be7 {-4.43/14 0} 90. Kg1 {0} Bf8 {-4.43/14 0} 91. Kg2 {0} Ra6 {-4.
43/15 0} 92. Kg1 {0} Be7 {-4.43/18 1} 93. Kg2 {0} Qd7 {-4.43/18 1} 94. Kg1 {0}
Bf6 {-4.43/14 0} 95. Kg2 {0} Ra7 {-4.43/15 0} 96. Kg1 {0} Kg8 {-4.43/14 0} 97.
Kg2 {0} Qb5 {-4.43/14 0} 98. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {-4.43/18 1} 99. Kg2 {0} Rd8 {-4.43/
14 0} 100. Kg1 {0} Re8 {-4.43/14 0} 101. Kg2 {0} Qb5 {-4.43/13 0} 102. Kg1 {0}
Ra6 {-4.43/18 1} 103. Kg2 {0} Qd7 {-4.43/14 0} 104. Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-4.43/18 1}
105. Kg2 {0} Rc7 {-4.43/13 0} 106. Kg1 {0} Qb5 {-4.43/18 0} 107. Kg2 {0} Rd7 {
-4.43/14 0} 108. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-4.43/18 1} 109. Kg2 {0} Qc6 {-4.43/13 0} 110.
Kg1 {0} Bg7 {-4.43/13 0} 111. Kg2 {0} Bh6 {-4.43/13 0} 112. Kg1 {0} Rc7 {-4.43/
14 0} 113. Kg2 {0} Bg7 {-4.43/13 0} 114. Kg1 {0} Bf6 {-4.43/13 0} 115. Kg2 {0}
Rf7 {-4.43/13 0} 116. Kg1 {0} Qd7 {-4.43/13 0} 117. Kg2 {0} Qb5 {-4.43/13 0}
118. Kg1 {0} Rc7 {-4.43/14 0} 119. Kg2 {0} Kf7 {-4.43/12 0} 120. N3h2 {1} Nxh2
{-4.51/9 0} 121. Kxh2 {1} Qc6 {-4.58/13 0} 122. Kg2 {0} Rb7 {-4.58/18 1} 123.
Kg1 {0} Kg7 {-4.58/13 0} 124. Kg2 {0} Kg8 {-4.58/18 0} 125. Nh2 {1} Rd7 {-4.58/
13 0} 126. Nf3 {0} Nd6 {-4.58/12 0} 127. Kh2 {0} Rb7 {-4.58/12 0} 128. Kg2 {0}
Kg7 {-4.58/16 1} 129. Kg1 {0} Qb5 {-4.58/13 0} 130. Kg2 {0} Ne4 {-4.58/19 1}
131. Kg1 {1} Rc7 {-4.58/12 0} 132. Kg2 {0} Be7 {-4.58/13 0} 133. Kg1 {0} Nd6 {
-4.58/12 0} 134. Kg2 {0} Bf6 {-4.58/14 0} 135. Kg1 {0} Kg8 {-4.58/15 0} 136.
Kg2 {0} Ne4 {-4.58/18 0} 137. Kg1 {0} Rb7 {-4.58/13 0} 138. Kg2 {0} Rba7 {-4.
58/18 0} 139. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {-4.58/13 0} 140. Kg2 {0} Qc6 {-4.58/18 0} 141. Kg1 {
0} Kg7 {-4.58/12 0} 142. Kg2 {0} Qd7 {-4.58/19 1} 143. Kg1 {0} Ra6 {-4.58/12 0}
144. Kg2 {0} Be7 {-4.58/18 0} 145. Kg1 {0} Qb5 {-4.58/11 0} 146. Kg2 {0} Qc6 {
-4.58/13 0} 147. Kg1 {0} Ra7 {-4.58/12 0} 148. Kg2 {0} Qd7 {-4.58/18 0} 149.
Kg1 {0} Ra6 {-4.58/12 0} 150. Kg2 {0} Bd6 {-4.58/13 0} 151. Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-4.58/
12 0} 152. Kg2 {0} Qb5 {-4.58/17 0} 153. Kg1 {0} Qc6 {-4.58/18 0} 154. Kg2 {0}
Qd7 {-4.58/12 0} 155. Kg1 {0} Be7 {-4.58/18 0} 156. Kg2 {0} Bf6 {-4.58/13 0}
157. Kg1 {0} Kg8 {-4.58/18 0} 158. Kg2 {0} Rb8 {-4.58/18 0} 159. Kg1 {0} Ra7 {
-4.58/19 0} 160. Kg2 {0} Rb6 {-4.58/19 0} 161. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-4.58/12 0} 162.
Kg2 {0} Kf7 {-4.58/17 0} 163. Kg1 {0} Rb7 {-4.58/11 0} 164. Kg2 {0} Qb5 {-4.58/
11 0} 165. Kg1 {0} Nd6 {-4.58/10 0} 166. Kg2 {0} Kg8 {-4.58/12 0} 167. Rc2 {4}
Qd7 {-4.58/10 0} 168. Rd2 {0} Rba7 {-4.59/10 0} 169. Rc2 {1} Nb5 {-4.86/14 0}
170. Rc1 {4} Nxa3 {-6.06/8 0} 171. bxa3 {0} Qc8 {-6.12/18 0} 172. Rc2 {0} Rb8 {
-6.12/11 0} 173. Rc1 {1} Qc6 {-6.12/21 0} 174. Rc2 {0} Kg7 {-6.12/12 0} 175.
Rc1 {0} Rd7 {-6.12/20 0} 176. Rc2 {0} Rd6 {-6.12/11 0} 177. Rc1 {0} Qd7 {-6.12/
11 0} 178. Rc2 {0} Rc6 {-6.12/12 0} 179. Rc1 {0} Ra6 {-6.12/12 0} 180. Rc2 {0}
Qd6 {-6.12/11 0} 181. Rc1 {0} Qc7 {-6.12/20 0} 182. Rc2 {0} Be7 {-6.12/11 0}
183. Rc1 {0} Qc6 {-6.12/11 0} 184. Rc2 {0} Ra7 {-6.12/11 0} 185. Rc1 {0} Bd6 {
-6.12/20 0} 186. Rc2 {0} Kf6 {-6.12/11 0} 187. Rc1 {0} Rf7 {-6.12/19 0} 188.
Rc2 {0} Rd7 {-6.12/10 0} 189. Rc1 {0} Rg7 {-6.12/20 0} 190. Rc2 {0} Rf7 {-6.12/
10 0} 191. Rc1 {0} Kg7 {-6.12/11 0} 192. Rc2 {0} Rd8 {-6.17/8 0} 193. Rc1 {0}
Rb7 {-6.12/19 0} 194. Rc2 {0} Re8 {-6.12/10 0} 195. Rc1 {0} Kf6 {-6.12/19 0}
196. Rc2 {0} Rh8 {-6.12/10 0} 197. Rc1 {0} Rd8 {-6.12/19 0} 198. Rc2 {0} Rg8 {
-6.12/10 0} 199. Rc1 {0} Qb5 {-6.12/20 0} 200. Rc2 {0} Rd8 {-6.12/10 0} 201.
Rc1 {0} Ra7 {-6.12/20 0} 202. Rc2 {0} Kg7 {-6.12/10 0} 203. Rc1 {0} Rc8 {-6.12/
19 0} 204. Rc2 {0} Rb7 {-6.12/10 0} 205. Be2 {1} Bc7 {-6.12/11 0} 206. Rc1 {0}
Bb6 {-6.12/10 0} 207. Rc2 {0} Kf6 {-6.12/11 0} 208. Rc1 {0} Re7 {-6.12/20 0}
209. Rc2 {0} Bc7 {-6.12/10 0} 210. Rc1 {0} Ra8 {-6.12/20 0} 211. Rc2 {0} Ra7 {
-6.17/8 0} 212. Rc1 {0} Bd6 {-6.12/20 0} 213. Rc2 {0} Rh7 {-6.12/11 0} 214. Rc1
{0} Ra8 {-6.12/19 0} 215. Rc2 {0} Qb6 {-6.12/10 0} 216. Rc1 {1} Kg7 {-5.37/8 0}
217. Rd1 {1} Kf8 {-6.12/8 0} 218. Rc1 {2} g5 {-5.37/18 0} 219. Nxg5 {2} Rh6 {
-5.35/9 0} 220. Kh3 {2} Be7 {-5.37/9 0} 221. Rc2 {0} Bxg5 {-5.73/8 0} 222. hxg5
{1} Rh7 {-5.78/18 0} 223. Kh4 {1} Kf7 {-5.78/10 0} 224. Bf2 {1} Kg6 {-5.78/9 0}
225. Be1 {1} Qd6 {-5.78/9 0} 226. Rc1 {1} Qe7 {-5.78/10 0} 227. Rc2 {0} Rb8 {
-5.78/11 0} 228. Rc1 {0} Rhh8 {-5.78/10 0} 229. Rc2 {0} Rb6 {-5.78/14 0} 230.
Rc1 {0} Rb7 {-5.78/9 0} 231. Rc2 {0} Qd8 {-5.78/19 0} 232. Rc1 {0} Rg7 {-5.78/
10 0} 233. Rc2 {0} Kf7 {-5.78/16 0} 234. Rc1 {0} Qe7 {-5.78/9 0} 235. Rc2 {0}
Rgg8 {-5.78/18 0} 236. Rc1 {0} Qd8 {-5.78/9 0} 237. Rc2 {0} Rg6 {-5.78/19 0}
238. Rc1 {0} Rg7 {-5.78/10 0} 239. Rc2 {0} Kg6 {-5.78/11 0} 240. Rc1 {0} Rb7 {
-5.78/10 0} 241. Rc2 {0} Rhh7 {-5.78/11 0} 242. Rc1 {0} Rb6 {-5.78/10 0} 243.
Rc2 {0} Qe7 {-5.78/14 0} 244. Rc1 {0} Rb7 {-5.78/10 0} 245. Rc2 {0} Rb5 {-5.78/
11 0} 246. Rc1 {0} Rb6 {-5.78/10 0} 247. Rd1 {0} Qd8 {-5.78/10 0} 248. Rc1 {0}
Rb8 {-5.78/18 0} 249. Rd1 {0} Rh8 {-5.78/10 0} 250. Rc1 {0} Rb5 {-5.78/20 0}
251. Rd1 {0} Rb6 {-5.78/10 0} 252. Rc1 {0} Rc6 {-5.78/20 0} 253. Rd1 {0} Qe7 {
-5.78/10 0} 254. Rc1 {0} Ra6 {-5.78/10 0} 255. Rd1 {0} Rd6 {-5.78/10 0} 256.
Rd2 {0} Rb6 {-5.74/7 0} 257. Rd1 {0} Qd8 {-5.75/7 0} 258. Rd2 {0} Rb7 {-5.74/7
0} 259. Rd1 {0} Qd7 {-5.75/7 0} 260. Rd2 {0} Qe7 {-5.74/7 0} 261. Rd1 {0} Qd6 {
-5.74/7 0} 262. Rd2 {0} Qe7 {-5.74/7 0} 263. Rd1 {0} Qd6 {-5.74/7 0} 264. Rd2 {
0} Qe7 {-5.74/7 0 (Lag: Av=0.36s, max=1.2s)} 1/2-1/2 :D :D :D :D :D

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[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
[d]rn1qkb1r/pp2pppp/2p2n2/3p1b2/3P1P2/2PQP3/PP4PP/RNB1KBNR b KQkq - 0 5
[d]rn1qkb1r/pp2pppp/2p2n2/3p4/3P1P2/2PbP3/PP4PP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 6
[d]rn1qkb1r/pp2pppp/2p2n2/3p4/3P1P2/2PBP3/PP4PP/RNB1K1NR b KQkq - 0 6
[d]rq3rk1/1p1n1p1p/2pbpnp1/3p4/p2P1P2/2PBPN2/PP2R1PP/R1B2N1K w - - 0 14
[d]rq3rk1/3n1p2/1p1bpnp1/2pp3p/p2P1P1P/P1PBPNP1/1P2R3/R1B2N1K b - h3 0 18
[d]rq2r1k1/3n1p2/3bpnp1/1p1p3p/p1pP1P1P/P1P1PNP1/1PB1R1K1/R1B2N2 w - - 0 21
[d]2r3k1/r2n4/1q1bp1p1/1p1p1p1p/p1pPnP1P/P1P1PNP1/RPR3K1/3BBN2 w - - 0 26
[d]2q5/r3b1k1/4prpn/3p1p1p/pppPnP1P/P1P1PNP1/1P2R1K1/R2BBN2 w - - 0 74
[d]r7/2r2k2/4pbp1/1q1p1p1p/pPpPnP1P/R1P1P1P1/1P2R1Kn/3BBN2 w - - 0 121
[d]r5k1/r2q4/4pbp1/1n1p1p1p/pPpP1P1P/R1P1PNP1/1PR3K1/3BB3 w - - 0 170
[d]r5k1/r2q4/4pbp1/3p1p1p/pPpP1P1P/n1P1PNP1/1P4K1/2RBB3 w - - 0 171
[d]r4k2/7r/1q1bp3/3p1ppp/pPpP1P1P/P1P1PNP1/4B1K1/2R1B3 w - - 0 219
[d]r4k2/7r/1q1bp3/3p1pNp/pPpP1P1P/P1P1P1P1/4B1K1/2R1B3 b - - 0 219
[d]r4k2/8/1q2p2r/3p1pbp/pPpP1P1P/P1P1P1PK/2R1B3/4B3 w - - 0 222
[d]r4k2/7r/1q2p3/3p1pPp/pPpP1P2/P1P1P1PK/2R1B3/4B3 w - - 0 223
[d]r7/5k1r/1q2p3/3p1pPp/pPpP1P1K/P1P1P1P1/2R1BB2/8 b - - 0 224
[d]7r/1r2q3/4p1k1/3p1pPp/pPpP1P1K/P1P1P1P1/3RB3/4B3 w - - 0 265
[d] :D :D :D :D :D :D

...that was not only a Queen of handicap n favor of Supoer Chess Machine, plus, an simple hobby chess player oponent like I am, and a Rook changed for a Knight..... +13 ... :shock: :shock: :shock: :mrgreen:



I hope, you enjoy this fantstic irony, that looks as a punish of the destiniy agisnt the suoer tecnic and advance of the more materialistic and hipormodern society ever.

With best respect,

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August 25, 2009 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: How to kill Naum 4, playing you WITHOUT YOUR QUEEN !!! 2

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It's time to fix that problem!!
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Re: How to kill Naum 4, playing you WITHOUT YOUR QUEEN !!! 2

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Great game once again!!
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Re: How to kill Naum 4, playing you WITHOUT YOUR QUEEN !!! 2

Post by Uri Blass »

It was not a full queen handicap because you got a bishop for the queen.


Later it was queen and rook against 2 bishops and pawn handicap.

It is equivalent to 7 pawns handicap assuming queen=9 rook=5 bishop=3 pawn=1 but still less than a full queen that is 9 pawns.


I suspect that with 7 pawns handicap it is too late to win but with 6 pawns handicap the position was win for black

[d]r5k1/r2q4/4pbp1/3p1p1p/pPpP1P1P/P1P1PNP1/6K1/2RBB3 b - - 0 171


[d]rn1qkb1r/pp2pppp/2p2n2/3p4/3P1P2/2PBP3/PP4PP/RNB1K1NR b KQkq - 0 6

I also suspect that rybka will play better than naum in the second diagram and I failed to close the position against rybka because rybka played
6...h6 7.Nf3 g5


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6-7 pawns in advantage are not enought for a Top Machine

Post by Father »

Hello Uri,

Thank yo very much for your post. About that, then, looks like If 6 or 7 pawns in advantage were not enought for a Top Chess Machine over 3.000 elo, to beat a simple hobby chess player like I am. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I am try to do the same against Rybka 3... If I or other peple do it, then, the King iqual like the Queen(Naum 4) or chess machines does not know how to play chess" ... :shock: :D :D :D :D

Best,

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Re: 6-7 pawns in advantage are not enought for a Top Machine

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i think if you make fun of his engine enough vas will probably include an 'anti-father' setting in rybka 4 which will prevent these kinds of games from happening. :D
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Re: 6-7 pawns in advantage are not enought for a Top Machine

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yanquis1972 wrote:i think if you make fun of his engine enough vas will probably include an 'anti-father' setting in rybka 4 which will prevent these kinds of games from happening. :D
Not without pushing back the release date to 8/2010 :lol:
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... how tp beat naum 4, August 26, 2009. Antichess techniqu

Post by Father »

Naum 4: 13.5 plies; 2.742kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 2402MHz, (4 CPUs)

Here a victorie... that strong tiger was really hard this time ... but finally I won

Best

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[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2009.08.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Pingugator"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2076"]
[BlackElo "2734"]
[Annotator "RESTREPO,PABLO"]
[PlyCount "559"]
[EventDate "2009.08.26"]
[BlackTeam "Naum 4: 13.5 plies; 2.742kN/s Intel(R) Core(T"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {1} Nf6 {B 0} 2. e3 {0} d5 {B 0} 3. c3 {0} Bf5 {B 0} 4. Bd3 {1} Bxd3 {B 0
} 5. Qxd3 {1} Nbd7 {B 0} 6. f4 {1} e6 {6} 7. Nf3 {-0.28/18 0} Bd6 {5} 8. O-O {
-0.17/17 0} O-O {3} 9. Re1 {-0.17/17 0} c5 {8} 10. Re2 {-0.47/15 0} Rc8 {-0.64/
13 4} 11. g3 {3} h6 {-0.74/14 4} 12. Nbd2 {1} Qc7 {-0.68/14 1} 13. Nf1 {2} Ne4
{-0.84/16 6} 14. N3d2 {3} Ndf6 {-1.00/14 2} 15. Nf3 {2} Qc6 {-0.98/14 0} 16. h4
{2} c4 {-1.35/12 6} 17. Qc2 {1} a5 {-1.04/14 7} 18. Bd2 {2} a4 {-1.02/14 5} 19.
a3 {1} Nh5 {-0.94/13 3} 20. Rg2 {4} f5 {-0.91/15 2} 21. Be1 {1} Nhf6 {-0.91/17
2} 22. Rc1 {1} Ra8 {-1.05/14 2} 23. Qe2 {1} Ra5 {-1.06/14 2} 24. Rc2 {0} Ng4 {
-1.02/14 2} 25. Kh1 {1} Rb5 {-1.10/13 2} 26. Kg1 {0} Qd7 {-1.11/13 2} 27. Kh1 {
0} Ngf6 {-1.11/13 2} 28. Kg1 {0} Qc7 {-1.01/14 2} 29. Kh1 {0} Rc8 {-1.11/14 3}
30. Kg1 {0} Rd8 {-1.06/15 5} 31. Kh1 {0} Rb6 {-1.11/14 2} 32. Kg1 {0} Ng4 {-1.
11/15 0} 33. Kh1 {0} Qc6 {-1.13/12 1} 34. Kg1 {0} Rb5 {-1.11/13 1} 35. Kh1 {0}
Qb6 {-1.11/13 2} 36. Kg1 {1} Ngf6 {-1.08/14 2} 37. Kh1 {0} Bc7 {-1.11/14 2} 38.
Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-1.11/15 1} 39. Kh1 {0} Kh7 {-1.11/13 1} 40. Kg1 {0} Bd6 {-1.10/
13 1} 41. Kh1 {0} g6 {-1.11/13 1} 42. Kg1 {0} Rd8 {-1.11/13 1} 43. Kh1 {0} Rc8
{-1.10/14 2} 44. Kg1 {0} Rf8 {-1.11/13 2} 45. Kh1 {0} Bc7 {-1.11/14 1} 46. Kg1
{0} Kg7 {-1.09/13 1} 47. Kh1 {0} Rb3 {-1.11/11 1} 48. Kg1 {0} Ng4 {-1.09/12 1}
49. Kh1 {0} Bd6 {-1.05/12 1} 50. Kg1 {0} h5 {-1.09/12 1} 51. Kh1 {0} Rc8 {-1.
09/12 1} 52. Kg1 {0} Rd8 {-1.09/12 1} 53. Kh1 {0} Be7 {-1.08/12 1} 54. Kg1 {0}
Qb5 {-1.09/13 1} 55. Kh1 {2} Bf6 {-1.09/11 1} 56. Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-1.08/13 1} 57.
Kh1 {0} Qb6 {-1.09/12 1} 58. Kg1 {0} Rc7 {-1.08/13 1} 59. Kh1 {0} Nh6 {-1.08/
12 1} 60. Kg1 {0} Rc6 {-0.99/14 1} 61. Kh1 {0} Rb5 {1} 62. Kg1 {-1.07/13 0} Ng4
{-1.00/14 0} 63. Kh1 {0} Rc8 {-1.09/13 1} 64. Kg1 {0} Nd6 {-1.09/12 1} 65. Kh1
{0} Rh8 {-1.08/12 1} 66. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-1.08/15 1} 67. Kh1 {0} Ne4 {-1.08/13 1}
68. Kg1 {0} Rf8 {-1.08/14 0} 69. Kh1 {0} Rd8 {-1.08/11 1} 70. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-1.
08/13 1} 71. Kh1 {0} Rb8 {-1.08/12 1} 72. Kg1 {0} Nd6 {-1.08/13 0} 73. Kh1 {0}
Ra8 {-1.08/14 0} 74. Kg1 {0} Rf8 {-1.08/14 0} 75. Kh1 {0} Rb3 {-1.08/13 1} 76.
Kg1 {0} Qb5 {-1.08/14 1} 77. Kh1 {0} Ne4 {-1.08/13 1} 78. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-1.08/
15 0} 79. Kh1 {0} Rb8 {-1.09/12 0} 80. Kg1 {0} Nd6 {-1.08/13 0} 81. N3h2 {1}
Kg8 {-1.08/13 1} 82. Kh1 {1} Nh6 {-1.08/11 0} 83. Kg1 {0} Rf8 {-1.08/11 0} 84.
Kh1 {0} Kg7 {-1.22/12 0} 85. Kg1 {0} Be7 {-1.08/12 0} 86. Kh1 {0} Rc8 {-1.19/
12 0} 87. Kg1 {0} Ne4 {-1.08/14 0} 88. Kh1 {1} Ng8 {-1.45/11 0} 89. Kg1 {0}
Ngf6 {-1.05/14 0} 90. Kh1 {1} Rc6 {-1.39/10 1} 91. Kg1 {1} Qb6 {-1.11/11 0} 92.
Kh1 {0} Rc8 {-1.34/11 0} 93. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-1.11/11 0} 94. Kh1 {0} Bd6 {-1.28/
10 0} 95. Kg1 {0} Ra5 {-1.11/11 1} 96. Kh1 {0} Rbb5 {-1.26/10 0} 97. Kg1 {0}
Ra7 {-1.08/11 0} 98. Kh1 {0} Rb3 {-1.11/11 0} 99. Kg1 {1} Qb5 {-0.72/13 0} 100.
Kh1 {0} b6 {-0.99/12 0} 101. Kg1 {1} Ra8 {-0.95/11 1} 102. Kh1 {0} Bc7 {-1.27/
10 0} 103. Kg1 {0} Re8 {-0.95/11 0} 104. Kh1 {0} Bd6 {-1.08/10 0} 105. Kg1 {0}
Be7 {-0.97/11 0} 106. Kh1 {0} Rh8 {-1.08/10 0} 107. Kg1 {0} Ng4 {-0.89/11 0}
108. Kh1 {0} Nh6 {-1.08/10 0} 109. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-0.98/11 0} 110. Kh1 {0} Nf6 {
-1.11/10 0} 111. Kg1 {0} Nhg4 {-0.88/11 0} 112. Kh1 {0} Rd8 {-1.02/10 0} 113.
Kg1 {0} Rh8 {-1.00/11 0} 114. Kh1 {0} Ne4 {-1.07/11 0} 115. Kg1 {0} Nh6 {-0.90/
14 1} 116. Kh1 {0} Ra8 {-1.08/11 0} 117. Kg1 {0} Bf6 {-1.01/11 0} 118. Kh1 {0}
Nf7 {-1.02/10 0} 119. Kg1 {0} Ra7 {-0.94/11 0} 120. Kh1 {0} Nh6 {-1.02/10 0}
121. Kg1 {0} Be7 {-0.95/11 0} 122. Kh1 {0} Bd8 {-0.98/10 0} 123. Kg1 {0} Bf6 {
-0.92/11 0} 124. Kh1 {0} Ra8 {-1.08/11 0} 125. Kg1 {0} Rd8 {-0.98/11 0} 126.
Kh1 {0} Nf7 {-1.00/10 0} 127. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {-0.91/11 0} 128. Kh1 {0} Nd8 {-1.31/
10 0} 129. Kg1 {0} Nb7 {-0.90/11 0} 130. Kh1 {0} Ned6 {-1.06/10 0} 131. Kg1 {0}
Rd8 {-0.87/12 0} 132. Kh1 {0} Na5 {-1.12/11 0} 133. Kg1 {0} Rg8 {-0.87/11 0}
134. Kh1 {1} Nc6 {-1.26/11 0} 135. Kg1 {0} Rf8 {-1.05/10 0} 136. Kh1 {0} Rf7 {
-1.10/10 0} 137. Kg1 {0} Kg8 {-0.84/11 0} 138. Kh1 {0} Rc7 {-1.11/10 0} 139.
Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-0.90/10 0} 140. Kh1 {0} Bg7 {-1.04/10 0} 141. Nf3 {0} Nf7 {-0.67/
14 1} 142. Kh2 {0} Ra8 {-0.88/11 0} 143. Kh1 {0} Bh8 {-0.85/10 0} 144. Kh2 {0}
Nh6 {-0.62/14 1} 145. Kh1 {0} Bf6 {-0.69/11 0} 146. Kg1 {0} Kg7 {-0.73/11 0}
147. Kh1 {0} Nf7 {-0.78/10 0} 148. Kg1 {0} Nd6 {-0.81/11 0} 149. Ng5 {3} Bxg5 {
-0.93/10 0} 150. hxg5 {1} Na5 {-0.84/15 0} 151. Rh2 {2} Rc8 {-1.12/10 0} 152.
Rg2 {0} Nc6 {-0.84/11 0} 153. Nh2 {0} Rc7 {-0.65/15 0} 154. Nf3 {0} Kg8 {-0.65/
15 0} 155. Kh1 {0} Ra7 {-0.65/10 0} 156. Kh2 {1} Rf7 {-0.68/9 0} 157. Kh1 {0}
Ne4 {-0.63/15 0} 158. Kh2 {1} Kg7 {-0.83/10 0} 159. Kh1 {0} Re7 {-0.65/11 0}
160. Kh2 {0} Re8 {-0.73/10 0} 161. Kh1 {0} Rd8 {-0.65/10 0} 162. Kh2 {0} Qa5 {
-0.69/10 0} 163. Kh1 {0} Rf8 {-0.66/10 0} 164. Kh2 {0} Rb5 {0} 165. Kh1 {-0.66/
10 0} Qa6 {-0.67/10 0} 166. Kh2 {0} Qb7 {-0.73/9 0} 167. Kh1 {0} Nd6 {-0.73/9 0
} 168. Kh2 {1} Qd7 {-0.73/9 0} 169. Kh1 {0} Qc7 {-0.66/9 0} 170. Kh2 {0} Ne4 {
-0.61/10 0} 171. Kh1 {0} Ra5 {-0.67/9 0} 172. Kh2 {0} Qe7 {-0.81/10 0} 173. Kh1
{0} Rh8 {-0.80/9 0} 174. Kh2 {0} Raa8 {-0.81/9 0} 175. Kh1 {0} Qd7 {-0.85/9 0}
176. Kh2 {0} Rae8 {-0.84/7 0} 177. Kh1 {0} b5 {-0.72/9 0} 178. Kh2 {0} Ra8 {-0.
80/9 0} 179. Kh1 {0} Qc7 {-0.80/9 0} 180. Kh2 {0} Ra7 {-0.83/9 0} 181. Kh1 {0}
Rf8 {-0.87/8 0} 182. Kh2 {0} Qb6 {-0.83/9 0} 183. Kh1 {0} Rd7 {-0.84/9 0} 184.
Kh2 {0} Re8 {-0.89/8 0} 185. Kh1 {0} Nd6 {-0.87/8 0} 186. Kh2 {0} Ra8 {-0.81/8
0} 187. Kh1 {0} Rb7 {-0.78/8 0} 188. Kh2 {1} Rf7 {-0.80/8 0} 189. Kh1 {0} Rfa7
{-0.80/8 0} 190. Kh2 {1} Rd8 {-0.66/9 0} 191. Kh1 {0} Rf8 {-0.74/8 0} 192. Kh2
{0} Qa5 {-0.68/9 0} 193. Kh1 {0} Rd7 {-0.66/9 0} 194. Kh2 {0} Rdd8 {-0.74/8 0}
195. Kh1 {0} Ne4 {-0.67/9 0} 196. Kh2 {0} Rd7 {-0.71/10 0} 197. Kh1 {0} Rc8 {
-0.77/9 0} 198. Kh2 {0} Rh8 {-0.71/9 0} 199. Kh1 {0} Rf7 {-0.69/9 0} 200. Kh2 {
0} Qc7 {-0.81/8 0} 201. Kh1 {0} Rd8 {-0.76/9 0} 202. Kh2 {0} Qa5 {-0.81/8 0}
203. Kh1 {0} Re7 {-0.66/9 0} 204. Kh2 {0} Qa6 {-0.81/8 0} 205. Kh1 {0} Kg8 {-0.
84/8 0} 206. Kh2 {0} Qb6 {-0.80/8 0} 207. Kh1 {0} Rb7 {-0.68/9 0} 208. Kh2 {0}
Rf8 {-0.87/8 0} 209. Kh1 {0} Rbb8 {-0.85/8 0} 210. Kh2 {0} Ra8 {-0.77/8 0} 211.
Kh1 {0} Qb7 {-0.77/8 0} 212. Kh2 {0} Qd7 {-0.77/8 0} 213. Kh1 {0} Qe7 {-0.81/8
0} 214. Kh2 {0} Kg7 {-0.81/9 0} 215. Kh1 {0} Qd7 {-0.84/8 0} 216. Kh2 {0} Ra5 {
-0.81/8 0} 217. Kh1 {0} Qe7 {-0.77/8 0} 218. Kh2 {0} Rg8 {-0.82/8 0} 219. Kh1 {
0} Ra6 {-0.65/9 0} 220. Kh2 {0} Rb8 {-0.77/9 0} 221. Kh1 {0} Rb7 {-0.80/8 0}
222. Kh2 {0} Qc7 {-0.77/9 0} 223. Rg1 {0} Qf7 {-0.55/10 0} 224. Rg2 {0} Rb8 {
-0.73/10 0} 225. Rg1 {1} Rh8 {-0.60/10 0} 226. Rf1 {0} Qc7 {-0.02/8 0} 227. Rf2
{1} Nxf2 {-1.73/11 0} 228. Qxf2 {0} Qd6 {-1.75/9 0} 229. Qe2 {0} Na5 {-1.72/9 0
} 230. Nh4 {1} Rc8 {-1.90/9 0} 231. Kg2 {0} Ra7 {-1.67/10 0} 232. Kg1 {0} Rac7
{-1.73/9 0} 233. Kg2 {0} Rd8 {-1.67/17 0} 234. Kg1 {0} Re7 {-1.72/9 0} 235. Kg2
{0} Nb3 {-1.67/11 0} 236. Kg1 {1} Rb7 {-1.67/9 0} 237. Kg2 {0} Rdb8 {-1.67/10 0
} 238. Kg1 {0} Na5 {-1.73/8 0} 239. Kg2 {0} Re8 {-1.67/12 0} 240. Kg1 {0} Qb6 {
-1.72/9 0} 241. Kg2 {0} Rd7 {-1.67/11 0} 242. Kg1 {0} Ra7 {-1.72/9 0} 243. Kg2
{0} Nb3 {-1.67/18 0} 244. Kg1 {0} Rf7 {-1.67/9 0} 245. Kg2 {0} Qd6 {-1.67/10 0}
246. Kg1 {0} Na5 {-1.67/9 0} 247. Kg2 {0} Ref8 {-1.66/15 0} 248. Kg1 {0} Ra7 {
-1.67/9 0} 249. Kg2 {0} Nb3 {-1.67/18 0} 250. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {-1.67/9 0} 251. Kg2
{0} Ra5 {-1.67/11 0} 252. Kg1 {0} Ra6 {-1.67/10 0} 253. Kg2 {0} Qd7 {-1.67/10 0
} 254. Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-1.67/9 0} 255. Kg2 {0} Qb7 {-1.67/10 0} 256. Kg1 {0} Qe7 {
-1.77/10 0} 257. Kg2 {0} Rd8 {-1.70/9 0} 258. Kg1 {0} Rc8 {-1.76/8 0} 259. Kg2
{0} Ra7 {-1.71/9 0} 260. Kg1 {0} Qc7 {-1.79/10 0} 261. Kg2 {0} Qd6 {-1.74/10 0}
262. Kg1 {0} Re8 {-1.93/8 0} 263. Kg2 {0} Qe7 {-1.70/10 0} 264. Kg1 {0} Qc7 {
-1.82/10 0} 265. Kg2 {0} Qd6 {-1.74/8 0} 266. Kg1 {0} Rea8 {-1.80/10 1} 267.
Kg2 {0} Re8 {-1.76/8 0} 268. Kg1 {0} Rea8 {-1.80/10 0} 269. Kg2 {0} Rc8 {-2.00/
7 0} 270. Kh2 {0} Re8 {-1.96/7 0} 271. Kh1 {0} Rd7 {-2.01/3 0} 272. Kh2 {0} Rb7
{-1.95/8 0} 273. Kh3 {0} Rg8 {-1.95/7 0} 274. Qd1 {4 .} Ra7 {-2.01/6 0} 275.
Kh2 {1} Rc8 {-2.05/3 0} 276. Kh3 {0} Rf7 {-2.12/2 0} 277. Rc1 {0} Nxc1 {-3.38/
7 0} 278. Qxc1 {0} Qc7 {-2.82/19 0} 279. Qc2 {0} Qd6 {-2.77/7 0} 280. Kh2 {1
Zeit (Lag: Av=0.36s, max=0.7s)} 1-0

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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: ... how tp beat naum 4, August 26, 2009. Antichess techn

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Father wrote: ... but finally I won
Such wins on time cannot be regarded as proper wins. Nothing that one can be proud of.
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Re: How to kill Naum 4, playing you WITHOUT YOUR QUEEN !!! 2

Post by Laskos »

I am a little bit wondering how Naum settled for a draw with 5.74 advantage. It could have sacked 1-2 pawns or even a rook to unblock the position. Weird.

Kai