Firstly, I am NEGATIVELY surprised the policy that is being applied in talkchess about clones and code protection. (Eye!, Only the code, ideas do not have ©)
This only reminds me of the Middle Ages, where he was questioned and criminalized until the last dissident. To test whether or not it was a witch, was subjected to torture, the equivalent of releasing the code, something the courts need not, I recommend that you read the post of TIGER, which clearly explains this point:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 829#213829
If the witch cried when burned at the stake, then, were right, that if innocent, the Most High would have protected the fire. ohhh yes ¡
I hope that as many of the veterans who have come out attacking the betas of the programs that have won lately to rybka had something more than memory.
I want the moderators were not so partisan, I guess thanks to Monopoly domain that has come rybka.
Do not think it acceptable that any engine may suggest a veto in a internacional forum.... and more being rybka...
I love program rybka, I love the program and I think that is very powerful, I think Vasik did a great job...
But I also recognize that as one philosopher in ancient times, come on the shoulders of giants, rybka was for years accused of being a clone of fruit in the end the thing is that "had been based on fruit, but he had rewritten the code and applications from there, some new.
Clearly, as was more potent than rybka fruit, clone accusations became diluted gradually. (never a veto¡)
What I find completely INFAMOUS, right or not is now a staunch advocate the © of rybka,
my opinion is possibly based on some initial ideas rybka, and perhaps fruit, demons, neither made great efforts to hide the code.
But since when ideas are copyright ©? ---
all programmers have relied on ideas from previous programs, perhaps out of pure altruism, or perhaps for teaching purposes... since genius, and others...
Now is the other point.
I suppose that everyone really liked that Vasik Sachse free the world's strongest engine for free for the whole community, That certainly would have been nice, if you love free love and free labor, but what can not be justified is when Rybka 3 went on sale, given away FREE the old engine ...
WITH A SIMPLE entencion.
DUMPING,
I remember a post talking to other programmers, I think that certainly there must be many badly burned chess programmers with rybka team politics.
Clearly, the intention is exactly as described a famous programmer, (I do not mention the name, do not want to implicate him in a flame, but his comment this on this forum) =
The one and only intention of giving rybka 1 and 2, while they did business with the version 3 is to stay the engine alone with all the aquarium ... like a piranha, a stroke of "free", the intent was and is to eat all the goldfish bowl ...
Personally I like the variety of options, I like that some programmers IMPROVE the present,
so Vasik did in his day, based on an engine already created, fruit and the liberation of its source code, I think another, and then improved when their participation and believe that differences were significant, it went on sale.
and then present some of the executables, that many try-killed? Free Work-out programs ...
NOW comes a new program, such "IPPOLITO", everyone makes him a heretic, demons, perhaps it is, it is difficult to create an original engine so good, but, how was rybka 1 in its time?
exactly leap to fame being the strongest, thanks to good ideas from fruit and improvements made by the programmer of Rybka.
But more surprising is that here in an international forum in a forum that is supposed to be impartial, and which has been said and a lot of other clones ...
vein that program is no clear evidence, although strongly suspected, in fact even with clear evidence?
demons that have an international forum to defend the interests of an individual, who in his day did everything possible to "shoot all engines"
as a price competitive with FREE? That is the cost of rybka 1. rybka and 2, when no longer needed ...
There is probervio / proverb, who judged sword with sword will be judged ...
Again, I present here another complaint and is the double hypocrisy in moderation?
IPPOLITO censored that is the reincarnation of evil. (Or so they say)
yet is tolerated and continues commenting about:
RobboLito
And I am completely sure you all know what it says on the website:
LINK EDITED OUT
RobboLito is the latest in the series IPPOLITO.
(and all moderatos know that¡)
I think it really surprising that the present day shows so much hypocrisy in an impartial forum and unjustified defense so that even do not know if it's a copy-paste the code, or otherwise directly implement some ideas.
more seriously. If you want to censor, censure ALL, but want to position themselves well and by anyone, while there is no real evidence, then not censored.
To rybka team I can only say one thing:
if you are so sure that is a copy of your code, to denounce it, what is clear is that this engine, it occupies much less space, has other approximation algorithms and play better same games/endgames, and in any event is free, then there is no profit.
(excuse me, my english... I tried...And ¡? thats programs only are betas and ahve some erros ¡ it´s not soo important to it´s necesary and ESPECTACULAR and INFAMOUS VETO.
)greetings. from Spain. Oliver
