Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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Dave K
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Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
Jim's first version did that. If you're using the JA version try downloading the latest version.
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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
All later versions of Crafty that i have run in Arena has done
that. I kind of got used to it. :)

Best.

Gerold.
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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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Dirt wrote:
Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
Jim's first version did that. If you're using the JA version try downloading the latest version.
Thanks Greg. I will try JA latest version and see what happens.

Best.

Gerold.
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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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gerold wrote:
Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
All later versions of Crafty that i have run in Arena has done
that. I kind of got used to it. :)
In that case it must have something to do with Arena.
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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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Dirt wrote:
gerold wrote:
Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
All later versions of Crafty that i have run in Arena has done
that. I kind of got used to it. :)
In that case it must have something to do with Arena.
Crafty is the only engine that i have seen do this.
I did download Crafty a few mins ago. When playing now
the values are on the right sides. However Crafty shows all
scores positive when they should be negative..
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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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gerold wrote:
Dirt wrote:
gerold wrote:
Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
All later versions of Crafty that i have run in Arena has done
that. I kind of got used to it. :)
In that case it must have something to do with Arena.
Crafty is the only engine that i have seen do this.
I did download Crafty a few mins ago. When playing now
the values are on the right sides. However Crafty shows all
scores positive when they should be negative..
Somebody had to modify it to produce that behaviour. It does not do it normally...
gerold
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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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bob wrote:
gerold wrote:
Dirt wrote:
gerold wrote:
Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
All later versions of Crafty that i have run in Arena has done
that. I kind of got used to it. :)
In that case it must have something to do with Arena.
Crafty is the only engine that i have seen do this.
I did download Crafty a few mins ago. When playing now
the values are on the right sides. However Crafty shows all
scores positive when they should be negative..
Somebody had to modify it to produce that behaviour. It does not do it normally...
This Crafty is the latest version from JA.

Best.
Gerold.

P.S. Running it in Arena 1.1.
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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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The new updated JA version appears to correct this, but the "Always from white side" switch in Arena must be on.

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Re: Crafty 23.1 reports score to Arena 2.0.1 from its point

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gerold wrote:
bob wrote:
gerold wrote:
Dirt wrote:
gerold wrote:
Dave K wrote:of view, not white's. The problem is apparent when Crafty plays black and its scores are the inverse of white's. The " Values absolute (always from white side )" switch is on in Arena. There's no change if I turn it off.

Dave
All later versions of Crafty that i have run in Arena has done
that. I kind of got used to it. :)
In that case it must have something to do with Arena.
Crafty is the only engine that i have seen do this.
I did download Crafty a few mins ago. When playing now
the values are on the right sides. However Crafty shows all
scores positive when they should be negative..
Somebody had to modify it to produce that behaviour. It does not do it normally...
This Crafty is the latest version from JA.

Best.
Gerold.

P.S. Running it in Arena 1.1.
He had mentioned somewhere back that he had modified crafty to behave like this. Whether this is that version or not is unknown. But normal crafty has been white POV for nearly 15 years now.