Dumb question about Arena

[Peteshnick]

Hi - I'm a relatively new user of Arena. It doesn't seem like it can handle swiss engine tournaments - is this true? If so, why not? It seems like a simple addition.

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere - I couldn't find it in a quick search of the forum.

[alpha123]

Hi - I'm a relatively new user of Arena. It doesn't seem like it can handle swiss engine tournaments - is this true? If so, why not? It seems like a simple addition.

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere - I couldn't find it in a quick search of the forum.

I think there is a plugin to handle swiss-system tournaments. Look through the User Files/Engines section of http://playwitharena.com/

Peter

[Michael Diosi]

Hi,


Arena can't do Swiss Tournament by itself. However there is a programm called Arena Swiss, see news item 184 on the Arena page.

And it is not as easy if you want to make it right...


Michael
http://www.playwitharena.com

[David Dahlem]

Hi - I'm a relatively new user of Arena. It doesn't seem like it can handle swiss engine tournaments - is this true? If so, why not? It seems like a simple addition.

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere - I couldn't find it in a quick search of the forum.

I think there is a plugin to handle swiss-system tournaments. Look through the User Files/Engines section of http://playwitharena.com/

Peter

Swiss tourneys are built into Arena, no plugin required.

[Peteshnick]

Thanks!

[Michael Diosi]

Hi,

Are they ?


Michael
http://www.playwitharena.com

[Michael Sherwin]

Hi - I'm a relatively new user of Arena. It doesn't seem like it can handle swiss engine tournaments - is this true? If so, why not? It seems like a simple addition.

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere - I couldn't find it in a quick search of the forum.

Swiss system tournaments are hard to get right. I've seen situations arise in human swiss tournaments that human directors have had a hard time determining what to do. I guess that the extra pain involved in programming for swiss tournaments is not worth it. However, 'Chess War' seems to do a good job with swiss events, so maybe Olivier might be the person to ask.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Peter,

Swiss tournaments are not possible in Arena. In one of the Arena versions a very easy code for swiss tournaments added. But it dosn't work correctly. Years ago Volker Annuss wrote a tool for Arena and Swiss tournaments. The tool are a long time available on Arena webpage (around in the year 2004 / 2005 I believe). Not looking for the old tool again, perhaps its available today too.

I don't used a long time Arena but if the Swiss tournament code add in the actual Arena version, it's the very easy code Martin created for years.

With other words:
If you like Swiss tournaments you should try out the Fritz interface.

Best
Frank

An old wish in the time I gave my energy for the Arena project. But we never have the time for it. A really good swiss tournament mode isn't easy to create.

The best swiss tournament mode I saw comes from the German tournament manager "SwissChess" - commercial program -. I used SwissChess in ther past for 40 in 120 tournaments with Engines Absolutley perfect softwae, but not for Engine-Engine matches.

[David Dahlem]

Hi,

Are they ?


Michael
http://www.playwitharena.com

Yes, at least in Arena 1.1.

[Michael Diosi]

Hi,

Thanks.
That didn't work as it should... I will ask Martin and see...


Michael
http://www.playwitharena.com