A Distant Roar

[Graham Banks]

A DISTANT ROAR

Intel i5 750
ChessGUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HarrySchnapp.cgb book (limited to 12 moves)
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 32-bit 1CPU


Participants

Simplex 0.9.6
TJchess 0.121
Prophet 2.0
Protej 0.5.7
BigLion 2.23x
ECE 1.1
Jabba 1.0
Slibo 0.5.1
PLP 1661571
Myrddin 0.84
Kurt 0.09b
Schola 1.1.0

[Graham Banks]

I'll post updates here after every six rounds, but for those wanting to follow the tournament more closely and download games, you can do so from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=5389

[Matthias Gemuh]

Participants

Simplex 0.9.6
TJchess 0.121
Prophet 2.0
Protej 0.5.7
BigLion 2.23x
ECE 1.1
Jabba 1.0
Slibo 0.5.1
PLP 1661571
Myrddin 0.84
Kurt 0.09b
Schola 1.1.0

The roar is indeed from a distant past
ChessGUI must be fixed before I can talk to the Lion

Matthias.

[Graham Banks]

The roar is indeed from a distant past
ChessGUI must be fixed before I can talk to the Lion

Matthias.

In the meantime, I thought it would be nice to include BigLion in a tournament.
It's good to try out some of the new boys against some of the older ones.
Hopefully it should be an interesting tournament, although many only seem interested in the strongest engines.

Cheers,
Graham.

[Graham Banks]

A DISTANT ROAR

Intel i5 750
ChessGUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HarrySchnapp.cgb book (limited to 12 moves)
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 32-bit 1CPU


Standings after Round 6

6.0 - Simplex 0.9.6 32-bit
4.5 - ECE 1.1
4.0 - PLP 1661571
4.0 - BigLion 2.23x
3.5 - Protej 0.5.7
3.0 - Prophet 2.0
3.0 - Jabba 1.0
3.0 - TJchess 0.121
2.0 - Myrddin 0.84 32-bit
1.5 - Slibo 0.5.1
1.0 - Kurt 0.09b
0.5 - Schola 1.1.0


This tournament can be followed more closely from the following link, with games available for download after every two rounds:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=5389

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Graham,

I missed IvanHoe

Thinking on the Queen, not the chess program Queen, Queen Elisabeth II. Pool-Jumping, Niue ... and don't forget I am the first one with collect the engine logos and public it. I started with the first engine logo of Pete Galati (Golem) and my collections ended 2005 with around 600 logos from different persons.

I will delete via remote all your logos from your harddisk.
You can be sure ...

Best
Frank

[michiguel]

Hi Graham,

I missed IvanHoe

Thinking on the Queen, not the chess program Queen, Queen Elisabeth II. Pool-Jumping, Niue ... and don't forget I am the first one with collect the engine logos and public it. I started with the first engine logo of Pete Galati (Golem) and my collections ended 2005 with around 600 logos from different persons.

I will delete via remote all your logos from your harddisk.
You can be sure ...

Best
Frank

Yes, we get it, you want Graham to test Ivanhoe and he said that he won't do it. Can we move on?

Miguel

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Miguel,

we should learn to see such things with a bit more humor.

Often I am thinking ...
Computer chess discussion are more important as traeties of Rome or perhaps Falkland Islands.

Questions to yourself:
How many ideas from Gaviota are from yourself?
From which sources you got your information?
From which programmers comes the idea for endgame tablebases?

And so on ...
Thinking about it.

Perhaps you can hold with your answer the flag of the programmers? More interesting is to read an answere with a bit humor.

Best
Frank

[michiguel]

Hi Miguel,

we should learn to see such things with a bit more humor.

Often I am thinking ...
Computer chess discussion are more important as traeties of Rome or perhaps Falkland Islands.

Questions to yourself:
How many ideas from Gaviota are from yourself?

Gaviota is not made of ideas, is made of C code and algorithms. The code is all mine and the algorithms vary. I did not invent alpha beta if that is what you are asking, I did not invent zobritz, and the standard search techniques, but the implementation is 100% mine. I was certainly inspired in many of the search techniques by comments from many people, mostly Bob in the 90's. The evaluation is 100% mine, code and algorithms, including a tuning technique.

The interface is 100% mine, and the XB and UCI design based on threads and function callbacks is mine. Of course, those techniques have nothing to do with chess and you learn them in books.

From which sources you got your information?

I don't study other peoples sources.

From which programmers comes the idea for endgame tablebases?

Mine, I had the idea to go ahead and do it. Now, if you ask about the algorithm, it is the standard retrograde analysis, which does not need too much imagination to get it, the code is all mine, except some of the compression schemes that are MIT licensed (for the people to have options), but I coded scheme 1 all by myself using the standard Huffman algorithm so in case a wise guy ask me whether all the code used in a tournament is mine, I can say YES. The design of the cache is 100% original. Even the move generator is original and customized for small number of pieces. I am using the De bruijn technique as published. That will be the only handful of lines of code extracted from other people.

And so on ...
Thinking about it.

I have been thinking about it for more than a decade.

Perhaps you can hold with your answer the flag of the programmers? More interesting is to read an answere with a bit humor.

I have plenty of sense of humor, but I did not feel it in your repeated messages. Particulary when there is another thread in which, once again, the topic is whether GB will test this engine or another.

In fact, I was going to reply with a joke your first message. I really thought you were playing too much with this chess set
http://www.gadgetgrid.com/2007/09/20/ma ... et-boxjpg/

based on your references to the King of Tonga. But, when I saw you were spamming the subforums with the same questions, I had a turn off.

Miguel

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Miguel,

you hold the flag for the "real-life" programmers
Nice, better strong, message by yourself!

And yes, I follow some years your activity, read your messages and like what you do. You do a lot and stands with good examples as very young programmer in the first line.

I will write you the reason why I add this message in the thread of Graham. Graham like it to do exactly the same with other threads. Each one the same topic.

If Graham read this message:
Graham, to win a positive opinion about the IPP family isn't easy, to win a positive opinion about Rybka isn't easy too. Persons which like the IPP family should do that and person which unlike the ipp family should do that too. But I think it's wrong to try to see the topic black or white, good or bad.

Keep up the great work you do for us Miguel!
Keep up the great work you do for us Graham too!

Best
Frank

Nice link