Sorry, George, but better late than never

[kranium]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
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With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

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hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

[kranium]

in hindsight-

an open apology to the chess community from you, Graham, and the CCRL as a whole
(seeing as they have been among the staunchest, most visible, and most vocal group of Rybka promoters and supporters)
would be even more appropriate...

[Roger Brown]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
-------------------------------------------------
With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

---------------------------------------------------

hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

Hello Norman,

A little humble pie is perhaps in order.

Reminding you about something you wrote.........



Eat heartily.

Later.


http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 52&t=38817

[kranium]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
-------------------------------------------------
With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

---------------------------------------------------

hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

Hello Norman,

A little humble pie is perhaps in order.

Reminding you about something you wrote.........



Eat heartily.

Later.

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 52&t=38817

well the 'fairness' of the result is being hotly debated as I speak...
but i don't want to get into that.

that's what i get for posting when i'm feeling especially disillusioned with the process
point well taken...i do admit i not sure what is 'fair'
so, yes i'll have my pie now, a large piece please.

[Christopher Conkie]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
-------------------------------------------------
With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

---------------------------------------------------

hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

Hello Norman,

A little humble pie is perhaps in order.

Reminding you about something you wrote.........



Eat heartily.

Later.


http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 52&t=38817

Said like a true Arena mod (just joking). That is top quality. I'm going to bed now....... not sure about her name but hey...... bed is very important. Comfort essential.....

Hehe

Chris

[mwyoung]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
-------------------------------------------------
With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

---------------------------------------------------

hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

Hello Norman,

A little humble pie is perhaps in order.

Reminding you about something you wrote.........


They deserve it Roger. I guess it is enough to now they all look like fools being duped into doing Vas's dirty work for him.



Eat heartily.

Later.


http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 52&t=38817

[Christopher Conkie]

They deserve it Roger. I guess it is enough to now they all look like fools being duped into doing Vas's dirty work for him.

That is not even close, not even in the same parish as what Roger meant.

If you cannot read what someone says properly, do not post nonsense.The point he made was one of "pot kettle black". Do not try to twist what he said. Next you will be trying to tell us that Houdini is original.....

Don't bother. Trust me......you are skating on very thin ice. Let's see what Roger wants to tell you if you need confirmation although. Should be quite amusing.....

[geots]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
-------------------------------------------------
With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

---------------------------------------------------

hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

Look, I really did not want to reply to you, because I just dont like the idea of talking with the biggest cloner, fraud and cheat that ever posted here. Not a case of dragging your name thru the mud when i say this, because you have already admitted to it. You apologized and then had the balls to try it again. So though I have no interest in talking with you, I will take this opportunity to speak to the forum as a whole here. As good a time and place as any. I have become really good friends with a guy on this, and other forums. I promised him I would not mention his name. I have no control over whether anyone believes me here or not. Best and all I can do is be truthful. And his name will come out when the time is ready. And there is no one better with this programming and computer science stuff. We have been doing a lot of talking over this period of time, and I was given a crash course. Not in programming, but in shell games and bigamy. In shell games, always keep your eyes on what is being moved and to where, of course. You all know that. And a bigamist is fine and in good shape burning the candle at both ends, AS LONG AS the 2 wives never end up at the same place at the same time. But if and when that happens, that is when things begin to crumble before your very eyes. Of course i knew about shell games and bigamy- I just had no concept about how the two applied perfectly in this case against Vas. Tho we could not see each other, i had a mental picture of him rolling his eyes when i asked him point blank if Vas was guilty enough to be taken down completely in this farce. No need to ask me anything- I cant reply anyway. If you would like to just sit back and watch all this unfold, do so. If not, I dont really give a shit. But remember if you do want to just sit and wait, like me, remember to keep your eyes on the shells. Don't get diverted by bullshit talk. And what would source code have to do with bigamy? I will leave you to ponder on that. And all the most asked questions such as why he doesnt speak up more in his defence, and if he is so smart, why was he so stupid as to do what he obviously knew he couldnt get away with forever. Simple answer- he didn't do it. Dealing here with some slick people; but the problem is that the most important thing in their lives is their prestige. And it will crumble right before their eyes- brick by brick. Their world of computer chess will be a thing of the past for them. And it needs to be. And when the time is right, you will see the blame game played by certain people that will remind you of a hot frisbee- "get it away from me, I wasnt there for that." Or-"I tried to tell you but you wouldnt listen." At that point it will be every man for himself, but no cover will be provided. You can run but you cant hide. And it is very,very,very ironic that the only person who can save any of them at that time will be Vas himself. With a "the hell with computer chess. It's not worth all this crap. I need to make some real money"- attitude. I dont look for that, but I dont have a horse in the race, either. I asked my guy what would make them think they could pull it off, and he told me the strength in numbers plus forgetting the cardinal rule of "knowing when to hold em and when to fold em- when to walk away and when to run" . But remember i never said all 14 or so of them were guilty. Some were, just sadly, duped. At any rate, hang around. It's gonna be fun.

[Terry McCracken]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
-------------------------------------------------
With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

---------------------------------------------------

hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

Look, I really did not want to reply to you, because I just dont like the idea of talking with the biggest cloner, fraud and cheat that ever posted here. Not a case of dragging your name thru the mud when i say this, because you have already admitted to it. You apologized and then had the balls to try it again. So though I have no interest in talking with you, I will take this opportunity to speak to the forum as a whole here. As good a time and place as any. I have become really good friends with a guy on this, and other forums. I promised him I would not mention his name. I have no control over whether anyone believes me here or not. Best and all I can do is be truthful. And his name will come out when the time is ready. And there is no one better with this programming and computer science stuff. We have been doing a lot of talking over this period of time, and I was given a crash course. Not in programming, but in shell games and bigamy. In shell games, always keep your eyes on what is being moved and to where, of course. You all know that. And a bigamist is fine and in good shape burning the candle at both ends, AS LONG AS the 2 wives never end up at the same place at the same time. But if and when that happens, that is when things begin to crumble before your very eyes. Of course i knew about shell games and bigamy- I just had no concept about how the two applied perfectly in this case against Vas. Tho we could not see each other, i had a mental picture of him rolling his eyes when i asked him point blank if Vas was guilty enough to be taken down completely in this farce. No need to ask me anything- I cant reply anyway. If you would like to just sit back and watch all this unfold, do so. If not, I dont really give a shit. But remember if you do want to just sit and wait, like me, remember to keep your eyes on the shells. Don't get diverted by bullshit talk. And what would source code have to do with bigamy? I will leave you to ponder on that. And all the most asked questions such as why he doesnt speak up more in his defence, and if he is so smart, why was he so stupid as to do what he obviously knew he couldnt get away with forever. Simple answer- he didn't do it. Dealing here with some slick people; but the problem is that the most important thing in their lives is their prestige. And it will crumble right before their eyes- brick by brick. Their world of computer chess will be a thing of the past for them. And it needs to be. And when the time is right, you will see the blame game played by certain people that will remind you of a hot frisbee- "get it away from me, I wasnt there for that." Or-"I tried to tell you but you wouldnt listen." At that point it will be every man for himself, but no cover will be provided. You can run but you cant hide. And it is very,very,very ironic that the only person who can save any of them at that time will be Vas himself. With a "the hell with computer chess. It's not worth all this crap. I need to make some real money"- attitude. I dont look for that, but I dont have a horse in the race, either. I asked my guy what would make them think they could pull it off, and he told me the strength in numbers plus forgetting the cardinal rule of "knowing when to hold em and when to fold em- when to walk away and when to run" . But remember i never said all 14 or so of them were guilty. Some were, just sadly, duped. At any rate, hang around. It's gonna be fun.

Are you through with the crazy talk of a mental patient?
It's illegal to make such allegations without proof. It's called slander and libel when in print.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're not a programmer. I don't know what your problem is but it's nasty and I suggest you deal with it rather than trolling on this board with veiled threats.

[geots]

From George Speight's topic post :

Christophe, Zach and Norman? Made a Promise- I Want It
Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25184

George Speight wrote:
-------------------------------------------------
With all due respect, i waited till the elections were over. A good while back you guys dragged Vas' program and reputation thru the mud with innuendos and theories. When questioned, you promised you would show me (and the rest of us) the evidence- but that it just took time to put it all together. Well, enough time has passed- more than enough- and i would like the promise kept. Just think of it as a Christmas present to all of us.

Best,
_________________
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

---------------------------------------------------

hi George,
well it took a while, and we've all managed to endure years of your contemptuous ridicule...
but you now have your 'evidence' as promised, with almost all in universal agreement.

please don't bother to email your apology...i prefer you post it here publicly.

Norm

Look, I really did not want to reply to you, because I just dont like the idea of talking with the biggest cloner, fraud and cheat that ever posted here. Not a case of dragging your name thru the mud when i say this, because you have already admitted to it. You apologized and then had the balls to try it again. So though I have no interest in talking with you, I will take this opportunity to speak to the forum as a whole here. As good a time and place as any. I have become really good friends with a guy on this, and other forums. I promised him I would not mention his name. I have no control over whether anyone believes me here or not. Best and all I can do is be truthful. And his name will come out when the time is ready. And there is no one better with this programming and computer science stuff. We have been doing a lot of talking over this period of time, and I was given a crash course. Not in programming, but in shell games and bigamy. In shell games, always keep your eyes on what is being moved and to where, of course. You all know that. And a bigamist is fine and in good shape burning the candle at both ends, AS LONG AS the 2 wives never end up at the same place at the same time. But if and when that happens, that is when things begin to crumble before your very eyes. Of course i knew about shell games and bigamy- I just had no concept about how the two applied perfectly in this case against Vas. Tho we could not see each other, i had a mental picture of him rolling his eyes when i asked him point blank if Vas was guilty enough to be taken down completely in this farce. No need to ask me anything- I cant reply anyway. If you would like to just sit back and watch all this unfold, do so. If not, I dont really give a shit. But remember if you do want to just sit and wait, like me, remember to keep your eyes on the shells. Don't get diverted by bullshit talk. And what would source code have to do with bigamy? I will leave you to ponder on that. And all the most asked questions such as why he doesnt speak up more in his defence, and if he is so smart, why was he so stupid as to do what he obviously knew he couldnt get away with forever. Simple answer- he didn't do it. Dealing here with some slick people; but the problem is that the most important thing in their lives is their prestige. And it will crumble right before their eyes- brick by brick. Their world of computer chess will be a thing of the past for them. And it needs to be. And when the time is right, you will see the blame game played by certain people that will remind you of a hot frisbee- "get it away from me, I wasnt there for that." Or-"I tried to tell you but you wouldnt listen." At that point it will be every man for himself, but no cover will be provided. You can run but you cant hide. And it is very,very,very ironic that the only person who can save any of them at that time will be Vas himself. With a "the hell with computer chess. It's not worth all this crap. I need to make some real money"- attitude. I dont look for that, but I dont have a horse in the race, either. I asked my guy what would make them think they could pull it off, and he told me the strength in numbers plus forgetting the cardinal rule of "knowing when to hold em and when to fold em- when to walk away and when to run" . But remember i never said all 14 or so of them were guilty. Some were, just sadly, duped. At any rate, hang around. It's gonna be fun.

Are you through with the crazy talk of a mental patient?
It's illegal to make such allegations without proof. It's called slander and libel when in print.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're not a programmer. I don't know what your problem is but it's nasty and I suggest you deal with it rather than trolling on this board with veiled threats.

Don't forget to carry toilet paper with you. And some hand sanitizer might be in order.

Later, Einstein