SWCR Event: IvanHoe 999946f vs. IvanHoe B46fB soon

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SWCR Event: IvanHoe 999946f vs. IvanHoe B46fB soon

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Hi there,

both engines have to play in SWCR-64 1.400 games.
Round robins will be run to the same time.

Still running Fritz 13 (for SWCR-64) and Oldie-Mix (for SWCR-32) will be stopped for this time.

Later in the day I will add both links here and on my webpage.

Later ...

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Re: SWCR Event *ready and started* LIVE mode, both URLs!

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Hi there,

here are the links for both round robins:

1. IvanHoe 999946f x64
http://www.amateurschach.de/ftptrigger/ ... f-x64.html
1.400 games : 40 = 35 participants.
I added all what I can and is strong and tested

2. IvanHoe B47fB x64
http://www.amateurschach.de/ftptrigger/ ... b-x64.html
1.400 games : 40 = 35 participants.
I added the same engines for a better compare to IvanHoe 999946f x64.

Version B47fB x64 will be available soon.
Compile is from today. PeterPan fixed some things in Version B47fA x64 (have to do with Shredder Classic 4 configurations).

Configuration I added in an other thread to this topic here.

My webapges will be updated today too, this need a while.

For a better compare:
Latest tested IvanHoe version in SWCR:

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12 IvanHoe B47cB x64              2940   15   15  1768   71%  2783   39%
If I got not a GUI crash ...
288 games on 4 Q9550 systems can be play, 8 games are still running to the same time.

2.400 : 288 = Test need around 8,5 days!

SWCR conditions:

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#Time control: 40/10 "repeatedly"
#Game average: 40 minutes, moves average = 171,55
#Resign      : OFF
#Ponder      : ON
#Learning    : OFF
#Endgames    : 4-pieces, 32Mb cache
#Opening book: Own PGN random 5.10 book
#GUI         : Shredder Classic 4 / Arena
#OS          : Windows XP Pro. x64 Edition
#Processors  : Intel® Core™2Q, 4xQ9550 2,83GHz
#Cores       : 1 core for each engine
#Hash-Tables : 256Mb  
#Games       : 1.000 per engine minimal
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Re: SWCR Event first game and additional information!

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First game is over ...
Now the programmer of Komodo, Critter and Stockfish have an information too how strong the new IvanHoe's are.

Additional information:
I played 600 games now on my Q9550 test systems (have more as 4 of this machines).

Result for B46fA x64 = 2.970 ... and this one is place 2.
But I played without endgame databases and with 40 in 5 time control.

Here the first game ...
Games are later available ... but nice to replay and to see how strong is the new IvanHoe!

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[Event "40 Züge in 10 min"]
[Site "ivanhoe_b46fb-x64, A4"]
[Date "2011.12.08"]
[Round "1.3"]
[White "IvanHoe B46fB x64"]
[Black "Komodo 3.0 x64"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 {Buch 0s} c5 {Buch 0s} 2. Ne2 {Buch 0s} d6 {Buch 0s} 
3. g3 {Buch 0s} h5 {Buch 0s} 4. h3 {Buch 0s} e5 {Buch 0s} 
5. Bg2 {Buch 0s} Nc6 {Buch 0s} 6. c3 {Buch 0s} g6 {Buch 0s} 
7. d4 {Buch 0s} Bg7 {Buch 0s} 8. Be3 {Buch 0s} b6 {Buch 0s} 
9. O-O {+0.32/19 24s} Nf6 {+0.37/18 19s (exd4)} 10. d5 
{+0.36/19 25s} Na5 {+0.35/21 19s (Se7)} 11. Qd3 {+0.39/20 
25s (Sd2)} c4 {+0.27/18 7s} 12. Qc2 {+0.37/19 0s (Dd1)} h4 
{+0.19/18 11s (Ld7)} 13. g4 {+0.53/19 11s} Nxg4 {+0.22/18 
10s} 14. hxg4 {+0.55/18 0s} Bxg4 {+0.21/17 10s} 15. f4 
{+0.63/18 0s} Qd7 {+0.24/17 44s} 16. Bf3 {+0.60/20 0s} h3 
{+0.32/16 37s (exf4)} 17. Kh1 {+0.84/18 27s (Sd2)} O-O-O 
{+0.42/17 29s} 18. Nd2 {+1.12/18 0s} Kb8 {+0.58/17 24s} 
19. b4 {+1.32/18 0s (Lxg4)} cxb3 {+1.08/16 53s (Sb7)} 
20. axb3 {+1.30/15 8s} exf4 {+1.07/16 10s} 21. Bxf4 
{+1.62/17 0s} Be5 {+1.55/16 55s (Lxf3+)} 22. Bxe5 {+2.39/18 
17s} dxe5 {+1.90/19 17s} 23. b4 {+2.20/19 0s} Bxf3+ 
{+1.68/18 11s (Sb7)} 24. Rxf3 {+2.81/20 25s} Nb7 {+2.28/19 
17s} 25. Nc4 {+2.81/19 0s} Rhe8 {+2.33/17 5s (De7)} 26. Qa2 
{+3.19/20 26s} a5 {+2.36/19 7s} 27. Rg1 {+3.47/20 1:46m} f5 
{+2.42/19 0s} 28. Nxb6 {+3.63/18 28s} Qh7 {+2.73/18 54s 
(Dc7)} 29. bxa5 {+3.48/16 18s} fxe4 {+2.66/18 0s (Sd6)} 
30. a6 {+5.82/17 49s (Tfg3)} Nd6 {+3.19/17 22s (Sc5)} 
31. Rf6 {+6.30/18 37s} Qc7 {+3.95/18 25s} 32. Rb1 {+6.69/18 
0s} Ka7 {+4.09/18 7s} 33. Qa3 {+6.77/18 0s} Rf8 {+4.94/18 
52s} 34. Rxd6 {+8.74/19 0s} Rxd6 {+5.44/19 14s} 35. Nc8+ 
{+9.19/19 0s} Qxc8 {+6.07/20 15s} 36. Qxd6 {+12.44/16 33s} 
Rd8 {+7.44/19 0s (Th8)} 37. Qxe5 {+15.42/17 22s} Ka8 
{+8.08/21 0s} 38. a7 {+17.61/18 35s} Rg8 {+13.67/19 0s 
(e3)} 39. Qd6 {+M34/16 28s} Qb7 {+M6/17 0s} 40. Rxb7 
{+M7/17 43s} Kxb7 {+M5/6 0s} 41. Qd7+ {+M6/18 11s (Sd4)} 
Ka8 {+M7/9 0s} 42. Nd4 {+M5/18 38s} Rg7 {+M5/4 0s (Tc8)} 
43. Qxg7 {+M3/16 9s} h2 {+M5/4 0s (e3)} 44. Qc7 {+M2/16 49s 
(Sb5)} e3 {+M1/1 0s (g5)} 45. Qb8# {+M1/125 0s} 1-0
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Re: SWCR IvanHoe Event: After ~ 100 of 1.400

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 2.0c x64               3018   20   20  1214   82%  2751   24% 
   2 Houdini 1.5 x64                2998   14   14  2320   78%  2771   29% 
   3 Houdini 1.5 w32                2980   19   19  1240   79%  2755   29% 
   4 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42            2967   20   19  1206   80%  2730   26% 
   5 Rybka 4.1 x64 Exp. 79TD v.1    2962   20   19  1200   79%  2735   26% 
   6 IvanHoe 999946f x64            2961   65   62    97   75%  2781   32% 
   7 Komodo 3.0 x64                 2960   17   17  1494   77%  2751   32% 
   8 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61            2958   21   21  1000   78%  2741   27% 
   9 Rybka 4.1 x64                  2955   15   15  1773   73%  2774   35% 
  10 Critter 1.2 x64                2954   16   15  1694   76%  2750   33% 
  11 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     2948   18   18  1286   76%  2746   32% 
  12 Houdini 1.03a x64              2942   21   21  1000   80%  2709   30% 
  13 IvanHoe B47cB x64              2940   15   15  1768   71%  2783   39% 
  14 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64            2939   16   16  1654   75%  2746   34% 
  15 IvanHoe B46fB x64              2939   62   59    94   71%  2785   43% 
  16 Rybka 4 x64                    2939   18   17  1480   80%  2695   28% 
  17 Fire 1.5 xTreme x64            2935   17   16  1400   73%  2761   36% 
  18 Critter 1.2 w32                2934   18   18  1200   75%  2752   36% 
  19 IvanHoe B49jA x64              2931   19   18  1160   76%  2737   34% 
  20 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64         2929   15   15  1811   73%  2754   35% 
  21 Komodo 2.03 JA x64             2926   17   17  1480   73%  2748   31% 
  22 Robbolito 0.09 x64             2917   17   17  1486   74%  2730   33% 
  23 IvanHoe B52aC x64              2917   20   20  1000   76%  2725   34% 
  24 Stockfish 2.0.1 JA x64         2905   18   18  1120   69%  2766   38%
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Re: SWCR IvanHoe Event: After ~ 135 of 1.400

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 2.0c x64               3018   20   20  1216   82%  2752   24% 
   2 Houdini 1.5 x64                2998   14   14  2320   78%  2771   29% 
   3 Houdini 1.5 w32                2980   19   18  1240   79%  2755   29% 
   4 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42            2968   20   19  1208   80%  2730   26% 
   5 IvanHoe B46fB x64              2965   54   52   133   75%  2777   39% 
   6 IvanHoe 999946f x64            2964   56   53   138   75%  2771   29% 
   7 Rybka 4.1 x64 Exp. 79TD v.1    2962   20   19  1200   79%  2735   26% 
   8 Komodo 3.0 x64                 2960   17   17  1496   77%  2751   32% 
   9 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61            2958   21   21  1000   78%  2740   27% 
  10 Rybka 4.1 x64                  2955   15   15  1775   73%  2774   35% 
  11 Critter 1.2 x64                2954   16   15  1696   76%  2751   33% 
  12 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     2948   18   18  1288   76%  2746   32% 
  13 Houdini 1.03a x64              2942   21   21  1000   80%  2709   30% 
  14 IvanHoe B47cB x64              2940   15   15  1768   71%  2783   39% 
  15 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64            2939   16   16  1656   75%  2746   34% 
  16 Rybka 4 x64                    2939   18   17  1480   80%  2695   28% 
  17 Fire 1.5 xTreme x64            2935   17   16  1400   73%  2761   36% 
  18 Critter 1.2 w32                2933   18   18  1200   75%  2752   36% 
  19 IvanHoe B49jA x64              2931   19   18  1160   76%  2737   34% 
  20 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64         2929   15   15  1813   73%  2754   35% 
  21 Komodo 2.03 JA x64             2926   17   17  1480   73%  2748   31% 
  22 RobboLito 0.09 x64             2917   17   17  1488   74%  2730   33% 
  23 IvanHoe B52aC x64              2917   20   20  1000   76%  2725   34% 
  24 Stockfish 2.0.1 JA x64         2905   18   18  1120   69%  2766   38%
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Re: SWCR IvanHoe Event: After ~ 175 of 1.400

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 2.0c x64               3018   20   20  1219   82%  2752   25% 
   2 Houdini 1.5 x64                2998   14   14  2320   78%  2771   29% 
   3 Houdini 1.5 w32                2980   19   19  1240   79%  2755   29% 
   4 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42            2968   20   19  1211   80%  2731   26% 
   5 Rybka 4.1 x64 Exp. 79TD v.1    2962   20   19  1200   79%  2735   26% 
   6 Komodo 3.0 x64                 2961   17   17  1499   77%  2752   32% 
   7 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61            2958   21   21  1000   78%  2741   27% 
   8 IvanHoe 999946f x64            2955   47   45   183   73%  2777   32% 
   9 Rybka 4.1 x64                  2954   15   15  1778   73%  2774   35% 
  10 Critter 1.2 x64                2954   16   15  1699   76%  2751   33% 
  11 IvanHoe B46fB x64              2950   47   45   174   74%  2770   39% 
  12 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     2948   18   18  1291   76%  2746   32% 
  13 Houdini 1.03a x64              2942   21   21  1000   80%  2709   30% 
  14 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64            2940   16   15  1659   75%  2747   34% 
  15 IvanHoe B47cB x64              2940   15   15  1768   71%  2783   39% 
  16 Rybka 4 x64                    2939   18   17  1480   80%  2695   28% 
  17 Fire 1.5 xTreme x64            2935   17   16  1400   73%  2761   36% 
  18 Critter 1.2 w32                2933   18   18  1200   75%  2752   36% 
  19 IvanHoe B49jA x64              2931   19   18  1160   76%  2737   34% 
  20 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64         2929   15   15  1816   73%  2755   35% 
  21 Komodo 2.03 JA x64             2926   17   17  1480   73%  2748   31% 
  22 RobboLito 0.09 x64             2917   17   16  1490   74%  2730   33% 
  23 IvanHoe B52aC x64              2917   20   20  1000   76%  2725   34% 
  24 Stockfish 2.0.1 JA x64         2905   18   18  1120   69%  2766   38%
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Re: SWCR IvanHoe Event: After ~ 224 of 1.400

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 2.0c x64               3019   20   20  1222   82%  2753   25% 
   2 Houdini 1.5 x64                2998   14   14  2320   78%  2771   29% 
   3 Houdini 1.5 w32                2981   19   19  1240   79%  2756   29% 
   4 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42            2968   20   19  1214   79%  2732   26% 
   5 Rybka 4.1 x64 Exp. 79TD v.1    2963   20   19  1200   79%  2735   26% 
   6 Komodo 3.0 x64                 2961   17   17  1502   76%  2753   32% 
   7 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61            2959   21   21  1000   78%  2741   27% 
   8 IvanHoe B46fB x64              2957   41   40   224   74%  2777   40% 
   9 IvanHoe 999946f x64            2957   42   41   224   73%  2777   32% 
  10 Rybka 4.1 x64                  2955   15   15  1781   73%  2775   35% 
  11 Critter 1.2 x64                2954   16   15  1702   76%  2752   33% 
  12 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     2948   18   18  1294   76%  2747   32% 
  13 Houdini 1.03a x64              2943   21   21  1000   80%  2710   30% 
  14 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64            2940   16   16  1662   75%  2748   34% 
  15 IvanHoe B47cB x64              2940   15   15  1768   71%  2784   39% 
  16 Rybka 4 x64                    2940   18   17  1480   80%  2696   28% 
  17 Fire 1.5 xTreme x64            2935   17   16  1400   73%  2761   36% 
  18 Critter 1.2 w32                2934   18   18  1200   75%  2753   36% 
  19 IvanHoe B49jA x64              2931   19   18  1160   76%  2737   34% 
  20 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64         2929   15   15  1819   73%  2755   35% 
  21 Komodo 2.03 JA x64             2926   17   16  1480   73%  2749   31% 
  22 IvanHoe B52aC x64              2918   20   20  1000   76%  2725   34% 
  23 RobboLito 0.09 x64             2917   17   16  1494   74%  2731   33% 
  24 Stockfish 2.0.1 JA x64         2905   18   18  1120   69%  2767   38%
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Re: SWCR IvanHoe Event: After ~ 248 of 1.400

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 2.0c x64               3018   20   20  1224   82%  2754   25% 
   2 Houdini 1.5 x64                2998   14   14  2320   78%  2771   29% 
   3 Houdini 1.5 w32                2980   19   19  1240   79%  2756   29% 
   4 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42            2968   20   19  1216   79%  2732   26% 
   5 IvanHoe 999946f x64            2967   41   39   248   75%  2773   30% 
   6 Rybka 4.1 x64 Exp. 79TD v.1    2963   20   19  1200   79%  2735   26% 
   7 Komodo 3.0 x64                 2961   17   17  1503   76%  2753   32% 
   8 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61            2959   21   21  1000   78%  2741   27% 
   9 IvanHoe B46fB x64              2957   40   38   248   75%  2772   38% 
  10 Rybka 4.1 x64                  2955   15   15  1783   73%  2775   36% 
  11 Critter 1.2 x64                2954   16   15  1702   76%  2752   33% 
  12 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     2948   18   18  1294   76%  2747   32% 
  13 Houdini 1.03a x64              2943   21   21  1000   80%  2710   30% 
  14 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64            2940   16   16  1662   75%  2748   34% 
  15 IvanHoe B47cB x64              2940   15   15  1768   71%  2784   39% 
  16 Rybka 4 x64                    2940   18   17  1480   80%  2696   28% 
  17 Fire 1.5 xTreme x64            2935   17   16  1400   73%  2761   36% 
  18 Critter 1.2 w32                2934   18   18  1200   75%  2753   36% 
  19 IvanHoe B49jA x64              2931   19   18  1160   76%  2737   34% 
  20 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64         2929   15   15  1819   73%  2755   35% 
  21 Komodo 2.03 JA x64             2926   17   17  1480   73%  2748   31% 
  22 IvanHoe B52aC x64              2918   20   20  1000   76%  2725   34% 
  23 RobboLito 0.09 x64             2917   17   16  1494   74%  2731   33% 
  24 Stockfish 1.8.0 JA x64         2905   19   19  1160   75%  2711   32% 
  25 Stockfish 2.0.1 JA x64         2905   18   18  1120   69%  2767   38%
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Re: SWCR IvanHoe Event: Short comments ...

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Hi there,

I updated the SWCR database. So you can find the first 200 games for both Ivanhoe version in the database.

The playing style between both versions is different.

Can be compare to Rybka 4.0 / Rybka 4.0 Exp. 42 setting or Robbolito 0.09 x64 / Houdini 1.0 x64

IvanHoe 999946f x64 is playing more tacticial chess.
Remis quote 30%, move average 83 (without resign in SWCR)

IvanHoe B46fB x64 is playing more solid chess.
Remis quote 38%, move average 88 (without resign in SWCR)

In this case the final results should be clear. Can be say after the first 248 games, think so.

IvanHoe 999946f x64, better vs. weaker opponents, better for blitz
IvanHoe B46fB x64, better vs. stronger opponents, better for rapid

The results in this constellation will be allways the same!

Interesting is that IvanHoe 999946f x64 could be the first engines which win a 40 game match vs. Houdini 2.0c / 1.5 x64.

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Re: SWCR IvanHoe Event: Short comments ...

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Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hi there,

I updated the SWCR database. So you can find the first 200 games for both Ivanhoe version in the database.

The playing style between both versions is different.

Can be compare to Rybka 4.0 / Rybka 4.0 Exp. 42 setting or Robbolito 0.09 x64 / Houdini 1.0 x64

IvanHoe 999946f x64 is playing more tacticial chess.
Remis quote 30%, move average 83 (without resign in SWCR)

IvanHoe B46fB x64 is playing more solid chess.
Remis quote 38%, move average 88 (without resign in SWCR)

In this case the final results should be clear. Can be say after the first 248 games, think so.

IvanHoe 999946f x64, better vs. weaker opponents, better for blitz
IvanHoe B46fB x64, better vs. stronger opponents, better for rapid

The results in this constellation will be allways the same!

Interesting is that IvanHoe 999946f x64 could be the first engines which win a 40 game match vs. Houdini 2.0c / 1.5 x64.

Best
Frank
Thanks Frank for the useful information :D

So it's IvanHoe B46fB x64 in my rating list as I use longer time controls 8-)
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