Hi,
i started a new tournament called "TBOC_7" to find out more about the famous "Breslauer Variante" in the open spanish opening.
Once long time ago the move 10. Re1 seems to be a strong move, but in 1913 Mr. Bergman and Tarrasch found the interesting continuation...
which leads to the following position:
[d]r2q1rk1/2p2ppp/p2b4/1p1pn3/3NP1b1/1BP5/PP4PP/RNBQR1K1 w - - 0 14
so black sacrifies a bishop for a pawn, to make use of it's faster development to get a strong attack on the white king...
All Engines play, starting with this position, at Time control 40m in 180min, followed bei 40m in 120 min, rest in 5min + 30 s
but this time without ponder, so most engines but komodo can use 4 Cores....
What do you think, is this position playable or even good for black?
Here is a game which was won be Deep Fritz 13, Fritz found a very good move, (16. Re1) which stops the black attacking possibilies and leads to a better endgame for white.....
[Event "TBOC_7-2"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.09.18"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Deep Fritz 13"]
[Black "Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C83"]
[Annotator "0.41;0.28"]
[PlyCount "97"]
[EventDate "2012.09.18"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[Source "Wutzke"]
{Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3411 MHz W=28.2 plies; 13.235kN/s; 3.
744.822 TBAs B=26.8 plies; 3.090kN/s; 7.028.408 TBAs} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3.
Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 6. d4 b5 7. Bb3 d5 8. dxe5 Be6 9. c3 Be7 10. Re1
O-O 11. Nd4 Nxe5 12. f3 Bd6 13. fxe4 Bg4 14. Qd2 {0.41/28 413} Qh4 {0.28/25 915
} 15. h3 {0.33/26 306} c5 {0.26/24 290} 16. Rf1 {0.77/27 427 (Te3)} cxd4 {0.77/
23 536} 17. cxd4 {0.69/26 83} dxe4 {0.77/25 514} 18. Qg5 {0.73/28 71} Nf3+ {0.
91/26 424} 19. Rxf3 {0.73/31 117} Qxg5 {0.82/26 344} 20. Bxg5 {0.76/29 53} exf3
{0.94/27 284} 21. hxg4 {0.74/29 75} fxg2 {1.07/28 416} 22. Nc3 {0.66/31 294}
Rae8 {1.12/28 333 (Tfe8)} 23. a3 {1.01/29 159 (Lc2)} h6 {1.05/26 239} 24. Bd2 {
1.14/30 443} Rd8 {1.25/28 635} 25. Rd1 {1.15/30 363 (Le3)} b4 {1.22/27 485} 26.
axb4 {1.12/29 190} Bxb4 {1.22/27 302} 27. Bf4 {1.13/30 259 (d5)} Rd7 {1.24/26
338 (a5)} 28. Kxg2 {1.26/28 194 (La4)} Rfd8 {1.32/25 287 (Ld6)} 29. d5 {1.25/
30 445 (Le3)} Bd6 {1.41/26 326} 30. Bxd6 {1.39/30 516} Rxd6 {1.53/27 274} 31.
Bc4 {1.42/31 430} Rg6 {1.75/28 623} 32. Kf3 {1.62/30 419} Rf6+ {1.75/27 335}
33. Ke3 {1.74/31 635} Rg6 {1.81/28 338} 34. Rd4 {1.94/31 1161} Re8+ {1.93/27
448} 35. Kd3 {2.09/29 498} Kf8 {1.96/26 213} 36. Rf4 {2.17/29 470} Rb6 {2.21/
28 827} 37. Na4 {2.09/31 681} Rd6 {2.25/26 281 (Tf6)} 38. Kd4 {2.23/26 178
(Sc5)} Ke7 {2.32/26 370 (Tg6)} 39. Nc5 {2.60/28 208} Rb6 {2.64/27 197} 40. Ne4
{2.80/25 141} f6 {2.87/26 210} 41. b3 {2.95/25 121} Rd8 {3.32/27 886 (Ta8)} 42.
Nc5 {3.43/26 116} Rdd6 {3.50/26 196 (Kf7)} 43. Re4+ {3.96/27 92 (Se6)} Kf7 {4.
23/28 186} 44. Re2 {4.13/24 57 (Te3)} g6 {4.83/28 435 (Tbc6)} 45. Rf2 {4.40/26
46 (Se6)} f5 {6.35/28 1301 (h5)} 46. gxf5 {5.60/26 50} gxf5 {6.64/24 129} 47.
Rxf5+ {9.81/28 189} Ke8 {8.64/29 772} 48. Ne4 {10.96/25 27} Rd8 {10.15/28 216
(Tg6)} 49. Kc5 {12.13/25 29} 1-0
Regards
Andi
TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
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jdart
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
This is not commonly played nowadays. The first piece sac (12. .. Bd6) might be ok, but the line with the Bishop sac 15. .. Bxh3 is bad for Black. A fairly recent example:
[Event "Russian Team Championship"]
[Site "Sochi RUS"]
[Date "2007.05.05"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Pavel Smirnov"]
[Black "Sergey Vokarev"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C83"]
[EventDate "2007.05.02"]
[WhiteElo "2631"]
[BlackElo "2475"]
[PlyCount "47"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 6. d4 b5
7. Bb3 d5 8. dxe5 Be6 9. c3 Be7 10. Re1 O-O 11. Nd4 Nxe5
12. f3 Bd6 13. fxe4 Bg4 14. Qd2 Qh4 15. h3 Bxh3 16. gxh3 Nd3
17. Rf1 dxe4 18. Qg5 Qxh3 19. Qg2 Qh5 20. Be3 Ne5 21. Nd2 Ng4
22. Bf4 e3 23. Bxd6 exd2 24. Bxf7+ 1-0
[Event "Russian Team Championship"]
[Site "Sochi RUS"]
[Date "2007.05.05"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Pavel Smirnov"]
[Black "Sergey Vokarev"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C83"]
[EventDate "2007.05.02"]
[WhiteElo "2631"]
[BlackElo "2475"]
[PlyCount "47"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 6. d4 b5
7. Bb3 d5 8. dxe5 Be6 9. c3 Be7 10. Re1 O-O 11. Nd4 Nxe5
12. f3 Bd6 13. fxe4 Bg4 14. Qd2 Qh4 15. h3 Bxh3 16. gxh3 Nd3
17. Rf1 dxe4 18. Qg5 Qxh3 19. Qg2 Qh5 20. Be3 Ne5 21. Nd2 Ng4
22. Bf4 e3 23. Bxd6 exd2 24. Bxf7+ 1-0
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Alibaba
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
Hi,
i mean 16. Tf1 not Te1 as a strong move....sorry....
at the moment Deep Hiarcs 14 vs Deep Junior 13 is running playing this line......with live broadcast on playchess
enjoy the game
Regards
Andi
i mean 16. Tf1 not Te1 as a strong move....sorry....
at the moment Deep Hiarcs 14 vs Deep Junior 13 is running playing this line......with live broadcast on playchess
enjoy the game
Regards
Andi
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Alibaba
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
Hi,
Hiarcs won vs Junior, now the game DF 13 vs SF 2.2.2 is running at the moment with live broadcast on playchess.
Enjoy the game...
Regards
Andi
Hiarcs won vs Junior, now the game DF 13 vs SF 2.2.2 is running at the moment with live broadcast on playchess.
Enjoy the game...
Regards
Andi
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Nelson Hernandez
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
Fritz is not exactly orginal with that 16th move. Actually, the game follows Botvinnik-Kan, 1952, through white's 21st move.
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Alibaba
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
really? wow! Thanks for your remark....i will start search for that game....
Regards
Andi
Regards
Andi
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Alibaba
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
Hi,
last game of the 6. round is running:
Komodo 5 vs Houdini 1.5a
with live broadcast on playchess........
here is the latest board position:
[d]5rk1/4b1pp/4q2r/p2bP3/Q1pP1p2/5N1P/PP1BR1PK/5R2 w - - 0 45
Regards
Andi
last game of the 6. round is running:
Komodo 5 vs Houdini 1.5a
with live broadcast on playchess........
here is the latest board position:
[d]5rk1/4b1pp/4q2r/p2bP3/Q1pP1p2/5N1P/PP1BR1PK/5R2 w - - 0 45
Regards
Andi
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Alibaba
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
Hi,
Houdini won vs Komodo 5.
Here is the table after 6 rounds:
TBOC_7-2 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ** ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 4.5/6
2 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ** 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 4.0/6 11.75
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit 0 ** ½ 1 1 ½ 1 4.0/6 9.00
4 Houdini 1.5a x64 0 ½ ½ ** ½ 1 1 3.5/6
5 Deep Fritz 13 ½ ½ 0 ½ ** ½ 1 3.0/6
6 Komodo 5 64-bit ½ 0 0 ½ ** 0 1 2.0/6
7 Deep Junior 13 0 0 ½ 0 1 ** 0 1.5/6 4.00
8 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0 ½ 0 0 0 1 ** 1.5/6 3.50
Regards
Andi
Houdini won vs Komodo 5.
Here is the table after 6 rounds:
TBOC_7-2 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ** ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 4.5/6
2 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ** 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 4.0/6 11.75
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit 0 ** ½ 1 1 ½ 1 4.0/6 9.00
4 Houdini 1.5a x64 0 ½ ½ ** ½ 1 1 3.5/6
5 Deep Fritz 13 ½ ½ 0 ½ ** ½ 1 3.0/6
6 Komodo 5 64-bit ½ 0 0 ½ ** 0 1 2.0/6
7 Deep Junior 13 0 0 ½ 0 1 ** 0 1.5/6 4.00
8 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0 ½ 0 0 0 1 ** 1.5/6 3.50
Regards
Andi
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Alibaba
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
Hi,
round 7 started with game 25: Houdini 1.5a vs Deep Hiarcs 14 : draw
now game 26: Deep Rybka 4 vs Komodo 5 is running.....
Regards
Andi
round 7 started with game 25: Houdini 1.5a vs Deep Hiarcs 14 : draw
now game 26: Deep Rybka 4 vs Komodo 5 is running.....
Regards
Andi
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Alibaba
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Re: TBOC_7 (Breslau Variation)
Hi,
Game 26: Deep Rybka 4 vs Komodo 5 was draw....
Game 27: Stockfish 2.2.2 vs Critter 1.6a is running at the moment with live broadcast on playchess....
here is the latest board position:
[d]3b1k2/5ppp/p7/1p1B4/1K2P1P1/4BN2/P5P1/3r4 w - - 0 33
Enjoy the game!
Regards
Andi
Game 26: Deep Rybka 4 vs Komodo 5 was draw....
Game 27: Stockfish 2.2.2 vs Critter 1.6a is running at the moment with live broadcast on playchess....
here is the latest board position:
[d]3b1k2/5ppp/p7/1p1B4/1K2P1P1/4BN2/P5P1/3r4 w - - 0 33
Enjoy the game!
Regards
Andi