Stockfish 050314_4x - H4 (ct=0)4x - LTC match

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Stockfish 050314_4x - H4 (ct=0)4x - LTC match

Post by beram »

Inspired by the Riddick match I played a 50 games match between latest Stockfish 050314 against H4 (ct=0) under CCRL 40/40 TC conditions
After 50 games: 37 draws (74%) SF won 7 and H4 6 games

In comparison with earlier blitz matches with TC 3m2s, same openings set, against previous versions of Stockfish, Houdini 4 did quite better at this longer time control.

Match conditions:
AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz, 4cpu,
TC 40/22 (CCRL40/40)
ponder = off
1024 Mb hash
25 opening positions, privat testsuite 3.0

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SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x TC 40/22 (CCRL 40/40)
                         
1   Stockfish 050314 64  +7/=37/-6 51.00%   25.5/50
2   Houdini 4 x64        +6/=37/-7 49.00%   24.5/50
The earlier matches ended as such:

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SF 040214 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, Blitz 3m+2s
                         
1   Stockfish 040214 64  +14/=30/-6 58.00%   29.0/50
2   Houdini 4 x64        +6/=30/-14 42.00%   21.0/50

SF 140114 4x - H4 ct=0 4x, Blitz 3m+2s
                         
1   Stockfish 140114 64  +21/=64/-15 53.00%   53.0/100
2   Houdini 4 x64        +15/=64/-21 47.00%   47.0/100

To Mark Young I would like to say: play a LTC match SFdev - Houdini 4 (ct=0)
I found out it is indeed much stronger than default Houdini 4 against Stockfish (and Komodo) at these longer time controls

And finally here are four won games from the match where Houdini 4 and Stockfish both won from both sides out of the opening.


[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Black "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "0.40;0.40"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=31.9 plies; 5.647kN/s B=24.5
plies; 7.964kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5
7. Nb3 Be7 8. Qd2 O-O 9. f3 Be6 10. O-O-O Qc7 11. g4 Rc8 {Both last book move}
12. g5 {[%eval 40,29] [%emt 0:00:43]} Nh5 {[%eval 40,26] [%emt 0:00:46]} 13.
Nd5 {[%eval 63,30] [%emt 0:00:43] (Kb1)} Bxd5 {[%eval 22,25] [%emt 0:00:35]}
14. exd5 {[%eval 46,31] [%emt 0:01:38]} Nd7 {[%eval 23,26] [%emt 0:00:37] (a5)}
15. Kb1 {[%eval 57,31] [%emt 0:02:01]} Nb6 {[%eval 16,25] [%emt 0:00:39]} 16.
Na5 {[%eval 42,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Rg1)} Nf4 {[%eval 12,24] [%emt 0:00:36]} 17.
Bxf4 {[%eval 40,33] [%emt 0:01:11]} exf4 {[%eval 12,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Bh3
{[%eval 40,34] [%emt 0:00:19]} Re8 {[%eval 7,26] [%emt 0:01:00]} 19. Qxf4 {
[%eval 27,33] [%emt 0:01:15]} Bf8 {[%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:00:31]} 20. Rd3 {
[%eval 31,32] [%emt 0:01:00]} Re5 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:01:10] (Re2)} 21. Qd2 {
[%eval 14,31] [%emt 0:01:25] (Rhd1)} Rae8 {[%eval -10,24] [%emt 0:00:46]} 22.
Bg4 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:37] (f4)} Re2 {[%eval -24,26] [%emt 0:00:34]} 23.
Qc1 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:17]} g6 {[%eval -32,26] [%emt 0:00:41] (Rf2)} 24.
f4 {[%eval -45,30] [%emt 0:00:58]} Rf2 {[%eval -35,26] [%emt 0:00:58]} 25. Rc3
{[%eval -51,30] [%emt 0:00:25] (Rf3)} Qe7 {[%eval -53,25] [%emt 0:01:16]} 26.
Rf3 {[%eval -44,30] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qe2 {[%eval -53,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 27.
Rxf2 {[%eval -44,30] [%emt 0:00:17]} Qxf2 {[%eval -51,22] [%emt 0:00:03]} 28.
Qf1 {[%eval -55,31] [%emt 0:01:45]} Qd4 {[%eval -57,25] [%emt 0:01:05]} 29. Nb3
{[%eval -78,31] [%emt 0:01:28]} Qe4 {[%eval -51,27] [%emt 0:01:12]} 30. Bh3 {
[%eval -74,31] [%emt 0:00:41] (h4)} Bg7 {[%eval -73,24] [%emt 0:01:14] (Qe3)}
31. f5 {[%eval -77,27] [%emt 0:00:25]} Be5 {[%eval -71,24] [%emt 0:00:40]} 32.
Bg2 {[%eval -95,27] [%emt 0:00:19]} Qh4 {[%eval -89,25] [%emt 0:00:36]} 33. c3
{[%eval -91,29] [%emt 0:00:19]} Nc4 {[%eval -98,25] [%emt 0:01:29]} 34. Qe2 {
[%eval -98,29] [%emt 0:00:19]} b5 {[%eval -98,23] [%emt 0:00:00] (gxf5)} 35.
Nd4 {[%eval -126,26] [%emt 0:00:28] (Nd2)} Qxg5 {[%eval -112,24] [%emt 0:00:45]
} 36. Re1 {[%eval -154,29] [%emt 0:00:32] (fxg6)} Kg7 {[%eval -118,24] [%emt 0:
00:52]} 37. fxg6 {[%eval -153,30] [%emt 0:00:21]} hxg6 {[%eval -118,22] [%emt
0:00:00]} 38. Nf3 {[%eval -164,31] [%emt 0:00:30]} Qf4 {[%eval -101,26] [%emt
0:01:30]} 39. a3 {[%eval -164,31] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rc8 {[%eval -111,26] [%emt 0:
01:19]} 40. Qe4 {[%eval -171,28] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qxf3 {[%eval -123,26] [%emt 0:
00:45] (Rh8)} 41. Qxf3 {[%eval -182,34] [%emt 0:00:57] (Bxf3)} Nd2+ {[%eval
-126,23] [%emt 0:00:10]} 42. Kc2 {[%eval -194,35] [%emt 0:01:17]} Nxf3 {[%eval
-125,22] [%emt 0:00:01]} 43. Bxf3 {[%eval -194,35] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rh8 {[%eval
-141,26] [%emt 0:01:05]} 44. Rh1 {[%eval -204,34] [%emt 0:00:37] (h3)} Bxh2 {
[%eval -154,24] [%emt 0:00:48]} 45. Be2 {[%eval -233,34] [%emt 0:01:48]} g5 {
[%eval -153,26] [%emt 0:00:46] (f5)} 46. Rf1 {[%eval -221,31] [%emt 0:00:39]}
Rh4 {[%eval -169,25] [%emt 0:00:27]} 47. Rf2 {[%eval -233,32] [%emt 0:00:34]
(Bd3)} g4 {[%eval -179,27] [%emt 0:00:37] (Be5)} 48. Kd1 {[%eval -258,34]
[%emt 0:00:35] (Bd3)} g3 {[%eval -208,27] [%emt 0:00:34] (Be5)} 49. Rg2 {
[%eval -283,34] [%emt 0:00:46]} Kf6 {[%eval -206,28] [%emt 0:00:24] (Kg6)} 50.
Kd2 {[%eval -300,35] [%emt 0:01:35] (Bf1)} Kg5 {[%eval -212,27] [%emt 0:00:25]}
51. Bf1 {[%eval -316,36] [%emt 0:00:42]} f5 {[%eval -250,29] [%emt 0:01:03]}
52. Ke1 {[%eval -316,39] [%emt 0:00:31]} Rf4 {[%eval -301,26] [%emt 0:00:31]
(Rh7)} 53. Re2 {[%eval -316,35] [%emt 0:00:27] (Rd2)} Bg1 {[%eval -347,23]
[%emt 0:00:30]} 54. Bg2 {[%eval -316,37] [%emt 0:00:26] (Bh3)} Bf2+ {[%eval
-453,22] [%emt 0:00:11]} 55. Kf1 {[%eval -438,37] [%emt 0:01:47] (Kd2)} Kg4 {
[%eval -495,21] [%emt 0:00:03] (a5)} 56. Bh1 {[%eval -759,30] [%emt 0:00:32]}
Kh3 {[%eval -505,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 57. Re6 {[%eval -813,33] [%emt 0:00:20]}
Bc5+ {[%eval -524,19] [%emt 0:00:01]} 58. Ke1 {[%eval -1241,37] [%emt 0:02:14]}
g2 {[%eval -533,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1
[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Black "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "0.32;0.45"]
[PlyCount "97"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=22.2 plies; 7.612kN/s B=30.7
plies; 5.550kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5
7. Nb3 Be7 8. Qd2 O-O 9. f3 Be6 10. O-O-O Qc7 11. g4 Rc8 {Both last book move}
12. g5 {[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:51]} Nh5 {[%eval 45,28] [%emt 0:00:30]} 13.
Kb1 {[%eval 29,26] [%emt 0:00:46]} Nd7 {[%eval 41,29] [%emt 0:00:31]} 14. Rg1 {
[%eval 30,25] [%emt 0:01:16] (Qf2)} g6 {[%eval 34,28] [%emt 0:00:54]} 15. h4 {
[%eval 33,24] [%emt 0:01:17] (Nd5)} b5 {[%eval 49,31] [%emt 0:00:59] (Nb6)} 16.
Nd5 {[%eval 20,25] [%emt 0:00:52]} Bxd5 {[%eval 28,31] [%emt 0:00:40]} 17. exd5
{[%eval 19,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval 39,32] [%emt 0:01:30]} 18. Na5 {
[%eval 17,23] [%emt 0:00:58]} Bf8 {[%eval 39,31] [%emt 0:00:21] (Rab8)} 19. c3
{[%eval 23,24] [%emt 0:01:03]} Re8 {[%eval 27,29] [%emt 0:00:52] (Nxd5)} 20.
Nc6 {[%eval 31,25] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bg7 {[%eval 22,28] [%emt 0:00:40] (Rac8)}
21. Rg4 {[%eval 56,23] [%emt 0:00:51] (Rh1)} f5 {[%eval 19,29] [%emt 0:00:33]}
22. Rb4 {[%eval 48,24] [%emt 0:02:51] (Rg1)} Ng3 {[%eval 13,30] [%emt 0:00:41]}
23. Bh3 {[%eval 37,24] [%emt 0:00:49]} Nh5 {[%eval 23,31] [%emt 0:00:51] (Nc4)}
24. Bxb6 {[%eval 24,23] [%emt 0:00:56]} Qxb6 {[%eval 31,31] [%emt 0:00:39]} 25.
c4 {[%eval 51,24] [%emt 0:01:58]} Nf4 {[%eval 48,31] [%emt 0:00:41]} 26. Bf1 {
[%eval 51,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg1 {[%eval 53,32] [%emt 0:00:23]} 27. cxb5 {
[%eval 36,24] [%emt 0:00:24]} axb5 {[%eval 44,30] [%emt 0:00:44]} 28. Rb3 {
[%eval 51,24] [%emt 0:00:28]} Qh1 {[%eval 44,32] [%emt 0:01:04] (Qg3)} 29. Qb4
{[%eval 53,22] [%emt 0:00:18]} Bf8 {[%eval 60,31] [%emt 0:01:10]} 30. Qe1 {
[%eval 53,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} b4 {[%eval 85,32] [%emt 0:02:36]} 31. Qf2 {
[%eval 125,24] [%emt 0:01:39] (Rc1)} h6 {[%eval 85,31] [%emt 0:01:44]} 32. Be2
{[%eval 125,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg2 {[%eval 105,30] [%emt 0:00:19] (Qh3)} 33.
Qxg2 {[%eval 125,23] [%emt 0:00:20]} Nxg2 {[%eval 133,30] [%emt 0:00:31]} 34.
Rxb4 {[%eval 105,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} hxg5 {[%eval 130,31] [%emt 0:00:39] (Nf4)}
35. hxg5 {[%eval 166,22] [%emt 0:00:38]} Nf4 {[%eval 150,31] [%emt 0:00:18]}
36. Bd3 {[%eval 166,20] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bf1)} Nh3 {[%eval 156,28] [%emt 0:00:
38] (Be7)} 37. Bc2 {[%eval 165,25] [%emt 0:00:43] (Re1)} Bg7 {[%eval 215,28]
[%emt 0:00:28] (Kf7)} 38. Rb7 {[%eval 239,25] [%emt 0:01:38]} Bf8 {[%eval 246,
30] [%emt 0:00:20] (Nxg5)} 39. a4 {[%eval 273,21] [%emt 0:00:43] (Rh1)} e4 {
[%eval 296,29] [%emt 0:00:28]} 40. fxe4 {[%eval 351,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf2 {
[%eval 315,26] [%emt 0:00:14]} 41. Rf1 {[%eval 351,19] [%emt 0:00:03] (Rc1)}
Nxe4 {[%eval 429,32] [%emt 0:01:10]} 42. Bxe4 {[%eval 365,18] [%emt 0:00:00]}
Rxe4 {[%eval 445,32] [%emt 0:00:58] (Rxa4)} 43. a5 {[%eval 332,17] [%emt 0:00:
02]} Rg4 {[%eval 454,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Ra4)} 44. Rb6 {[%eval 352,16] [%emt 0:
00:00] (b4)} Bg7 {[%eval 496,31] [%emt 0:01:53] (Rxg5)} 45. a6 {[%eval 344,15]
[%emt 0:00:00]} Ra4 {[%eval 635,32] [%emt 0:01:25]} 46. a7 {[%eval 488,23]
[%emt 0:00:54]} R4xa7 {[%eval 823,33] [%emt 0:00:46] (R8xa7)} 47. Nxa7 {[%eval
495,22] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rxa7 {[%eval 998,36] [%emt 0:01:27]} 48. Rxd6 {[%eval
467,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} f4 {[%eval 1125,37] [%emt 0:01:26] (Kf7)} 49. Rxf4 {
[%eval 706,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 1-0
[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.08"]
[Round "23"]
[White "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Black "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E90"]
[Annotator "0.38;0.29"]
[PlyCount "111"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=30.5 plies; 5.156kN/s B=23.0
plies; 7.528kN/s} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 O-O 6. h3 e5 7.
d5 {Both last book move} Nbd7 {[%eval 29,25] [%emt 0:00:42]} 8. Bg5 {[%eval 38,
28] [%emt 0:00:39] (Bd3)} h6 {[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:42]} 9. Be3 {[%eval 38,
30] [%emt 0:00:19]} a5 {[%eval 33,25] [%emt 0:01:00] (Nc5)} 10. Bd3 {[%eval 60,
28] [%emt 0:00:51] (Be2)} Nh5 {[%eval 33,25] [%emt 0:00:27]} 11. O-O {[%eval
61,28] [%emt 0:01:02] (Qd2)} Nf4 {[%eval 20,23] [%emt 0:00:26]} 12. Bc2 {
[%eval 61,28] [%emt 0:00:19]} b6 {[%eval 28,22] [%emt 0:00:22] (Nb6)} 13. a3 {
[%eval 65,26] [%emt 0:00:29]} Ba6 {[%eval 34,23] [%emt 0:01:02]} 14. b3 {
[%eval 66,29] [%emt 0:00:19] (Nd2)} Nf6 {[%eval 41,23] [%emt 0:01:41]} 15. Rc1
{[%eval 66,29] [%emt 0:00:20]} Nh7 {[%eval 34,22] [%emt 0:01:02] (N6h5)} 16.
Re1 {[%eval 77,24] [%emt 0:00:30] (Ne2)} Ng5 {[%eval 33,21] [%emt 0:00:22]
(Nf6)} 17. Nh2 {[%eval 75,28] [%emt 0:00:21]} Bc8 {[%eval 49,24] [%emt 0:02:28]
(Nh7)} 18. Kh1 {[%eval 75,27] [%emt 0:00:30]} Nh7 {[%eval 40,23] [%emt 0:00:33]
} 19. Nb5 {[%eval 75,27] [%emt 0:00:21] (Qd2)} Bd7 {[%eval 51,23] [%emt 0:01:
13]} 20. Qd2 {[%eval 75,26] [%emt 0:00:22]} Nf6 {[%eval 53,23] [%emt 0:00:28]
(Re8)} 21. Nc3 {[%eval 76,29] [%emt 0:01:08] (Bxf4)} Re8 {[%eval 49,22] [%emt
0:01:02] (g5)} 22. Bd1 {[%eval 69,31] [%emt 0:00:24]} Bc8 {[%eval 47,23] [%emt
0:00:27] (g5)} 23. h4 {[%eval 79,28] [%emt 0:00:46] (Nf3)} h5 {[%eval 59,24]
[%emt 0:02:05] (Kh7)} 24. g3 {[%eval 113,27] [%emt 0:00:35]} Nh3 {[%eval 46,22]
[%emt 0:00:18]} 25. Bf3 {[%eval 129,29] [%emt 0:00:23]} Ng4 {[%eval 60,23]
[%emt 0:00:47] (Nd7)} 26. Nxg4 {[%eval 139,30] [%emt 0:01:26]} hxg4 {[%eval 60,
22] [%emt 0:00:11]} 27. Bg2 {[%eval 131,30] [%emt 0:01:27]} Qd7 {[%eval 63,22]
[%emt 0:00:21] (Kh7)} 28. Kh2 {[%eval 149,27] [%emt 0:01:12] (Nb5)} f6 {[%eval
68,22] [%emt 0:00:40] (f5)} 29. Rf1 {[%eval 156,27] [%emt 0:02:53] (Nb5)} f5 {
[%eval 57,21] [%emt 0:00:20]} 30. Bh6 {[%eval 164,27] [%emt 0:00:22] (exf5)} f4
{[%eval 20,21] [%emt 0:00:10] (Qe7)} 31. Bxg7 {[%eval 182,29] [%emt 0:00:38]}
Qxg7 {[%eval 11,22] [%emt 0:00:11] (Kxg7)} 32. Bxh3 {[%eval 190,27] [%emt 0:00:
24]} Qh6 {[%eval 10,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 33. Rcd1 {[%eval 198,28] [%emt 0:00:32]
(Qe2)} gxh3 {[%eval 94,20] [%emt 0:00:44] (g5)} 34. gxf4 {[%eval 190,27] [%emt
0:00:28]} exf4 {[%eval 106,23] [%emt 0:00:40] (Qxf4+)} 35. Rg1 {[%eval 244,30]
[%emt 0:00:25]} Bd7 {[%eval 98,23] [%emt 0:00:14]} 36. Rg5 {[%eval 258,31]
[%emt 0:00:15]} Re5 {[%eval 102,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} 37. Qxf4 {[%eval 262,33]
[%emt 0:00:27]} Rf8 {[%eval 116,24] [%emt 0:00:24] (Rxg5)} 38. Qg3 {[%eval 262,
34] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rxg5 {[%eval 120,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} 39. hxg5 {[%eval 278,
33] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qg7 {[%eval 117,25] [%emt 0:00:27] (Qh5)} 40. f4 {[%eval
274,37] [%emt 0:01:13] (Rd2)} Qf7 {[%eval 108,21] [%emt 0:00:08]} 41. Rf1 {
[%eval 274,35] [%emt 0:00:26]} Qg7 {[%eval 135,24] [%emt 0:00:32]} 42. Qe3 {
[%eval 305,30] [%emt 0:00:43]} Qh8 {[%eval 164,25] [%emt 0:03:18] (Rf7)} 43. a4
{[%eval 330,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Rf2)} Rf7 {[%eval 229,24] [%emt 0:02:52] (Qg7)}
44. Ne2 {[%eval 335,32] [%emt 0:00:34] (Nb5)} Qb2 {[%eval 205,22] [%emt 0:00:
35]} 45. Rf2 {[%eval 335,35] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qh8 {[%eval 208,24] [%emt 0:00:14]
(Re7)} 46. Nd4 {[%eval 462,31] [%emt 0:00:49] (Ng3)} Re7 {[%eval 289,22] [%emt
0:00:58] (Bg4)} 47. Re2 {[%eval 489,32] [%emt 0:00:24] (Rf1)} Bg4 {[%eval 319,
21] [%emt 0:00:30]} 48. Re1 {[%eval 516,31] [%emt 0:00:36]} Rf7 {[%eval 353,24]
[%emt 0:02:10]} 49. Rg1 {[%eval 528,35] [%emt 0:00:49] (Rf1)} Bd7 {[%eval 397,
23] [%emt 0:00:53] (Bc8)} 50. e5 {[%eval 621,35] [%emt 0:01:21]} Bf5 {[%eval
430,24] [%emt 0:00:17] (dxe5)} 51. Rg3 {[%eval 692,32] [%emt 0:00:34] (e6)} Qg7
{[%eval 494,23] [%emt 0:00:28]} 52. e6 {[%eval 810,36] [%emt 0:00:38]} Re7 {
[%eval 578,24] [%emt 0:00:34]} 53. Qc3 {[%eval 863,36] [%emt 0:00:20] (Rf3)}
Qf8 {[%eval 787,25] [%emt 0:01:43]} 54. Nc6 {[%eval 1006,36] [%emt 0:00:43]
(Nxf5)} Re8 {[%eval 1044,25] [%emt 0:01:33]} 55. Qf6 {[%eval 1042,37] [%emt 0:
00:20]} Qg7 {[%eval 733,23] [%emt 0:00:34]} 56. Nd4 {[%eval 1112,36] [%emt 0:
00:27]} 1-0
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[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.09"]
[Round "24"]
[White "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Black "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E90"]
[Annotator "0.33;0.28"]
[PlyCount "68"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=21.5 plies; 7.427kN/s B=28.8
plies; 5.181kN/s} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 O-O 6. h3 e5 7.
d5 {Both last book move} Nh5 {[%eval 28,25] [%emt 0:00:53]} 8. Bg5 {[%eval 33,
24] [%emt 0:00:36] (g3)} Qe8 {[%eval 15,26] [%emt 0:00:26] (Bf6)} 9. Be3 {
[%eval 25,23] [%emt 0:01:37] (Be2)} f5 {[%eval 1,26] [%emt 0:01:29] (Nd7)} 10.
c5 {[%eval 33,22] [%emt 0:00:34] (a3)} Nf6 {[%eval 15,26] [%emt 0:00:29]} 11.
Bc4 {[%eval 35,22] [%emt 0:01:12]} Na6 {[%eval 22,26] [%emt 0:00:24] (Nxe4)}
12. Bxa6 {[%eval 28,22] [%emt 0:00:34] (cxd6)} bxa6 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:01:
13]} 13. O-O {[%eval 30,23] [%emt 0:00:29]} Rb8 {[%eval 25,25] [%emt 0:00:38]}
14. b3 {[%eval 31,23] [%emt 0:00:27]} h6 {[%eval 30,26] [%emt 0:00:47]} 15. Qc1
{[%eval 30,23] [%emt 0:01:00] (Bc1)} g5 {[%eval 0,25] [%emt 0:00:23]} 16. cxd6
{[%eval 14,23] [%emt 0:03:17] (exf5)} cxd6 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:24]} 17.
Qa3 {[%eval 4,23] [%emt 0:00:38]} f4 {[%eval -80,27] [%emt 0:00:37] (Nxe4)} 18.
Qxd6 {[%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:02:53]} g4 {[%eval -70,29] [%emt 0:00:24]} 19. hxg4
{[%eval -45,21] [%emt 0:00:32]} Bxg4 {[%eval -75,30] [%emt 0:00:35]} 20. Bc5 {
[%eval -46,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bxf3 {[%eval -199,30] [%emt 0:00:33]} 21. gxf3 {
[%eval -45,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg6+ {[%eval -207,31] [%emt 0:00:31] (Nd7)} 22.
Kh1 {[%eval -165,25] [%emt 0:02:03] (Kh2)} Qh5+ {[%eval -165,31] [%emt 0:00:29]
(Kh7)} 23. Kg2 {[%eval -200,23] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qg5+ {[%eval -164,33] [%emt 0:
00:19]} 24. Kh3 {[%eval -234,24] [%emt 0:01:18]} Kh7 {[%eval -179,34] [%emt 0:
00:43]} 25. Rg1 {[%eval -234,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Qh5+ {[%eval -179,33] [%emt 0:
00:20]} 26. Kg2 {[%eval -234,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rg8 {[%eval -169,31] [%emt 0:
00:31]} 27. Qe7 {[%eval -243,22] [%emt 0:00:11] (Kf1)} Rbe8 {[%eval -461,31]
[%emt 0:00:57] (Kh8)} 28. Qxa7 {[%eval -430,20] [%emt 0:00:48] (Qb7)} Kh8 {
[%eval -625,30] [%emt 0:00:31]} 29. Kf1 {[%eval -364,20] [%emt 0:00:09] (Ne2)}
Qxf3 {[%eval -747,31] [%emt 0:00:36]} 30. Rc1 {[%eval -358,19] [%emt 0:00:29]}
Rc8 {[%eval -766,33] [%emt 0:00:29] (Qd3+)} 31. Rg2 {[%eval -563,21] [%emt 0:
00:37] (Rg6)} Qh3 {[%eval -1160,30] [%emt 0:00:39] (Qd3+)} 32. d6 {[%eval
-1243,17] [%emt 0:00:27] (Kg1)} f3 {[%eval -2216,28] [%emt 0:00:47]} 33. Ke1 {
[%eval -1997,17] [%emt 0:00:20] (b4)} fxg2 {[%eval -2345,29] [%emt 0:00:21]}
34. Kd2 {[%eval -2169,18] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qf3 {[%eval -2900,29] [%emt 0:01:06]}
0-1
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mwyoung
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Re: Stockfish 050314_4x - H4 (ct=0)4x - LTC match

Post by mwyoung »

beram wrote:Inspired by the Riddick match I played a 50 games match between latest Stockfish 050314 against H4 (ct=0) under CCRL 40/40 TC conditions
After 50 games: 37 draws (74%) SF won 7 and H4 6 games

In comparison with earlier blitz matches with TC 3m2s, same openings set, against previous versions of Stockfish, Houdini 4 did quite better at this longer time control.

Match conditions:
AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz, 4cpu,
TC 40/22 (CCRL40/40)
ponder = off
1024 Mb hash
25 opening positions, privat testsuite 3.0

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SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x TC 40/22 (CCRL 40/40)
                         
1   Stockfish 050314 64  +7/=37/-6 51.00%   25.5/50
2   Houdini 4 x64        +6/=37/-7 49.00%   24.5/50
The earlier matches ended as such:

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SF 040214 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, Blitz 3m+2s
                         
1   Stockfish 040214 64  +14/=30/-6 58.00%   29.0/50
2   Houdini 4 x64        +6/=30/-14 42.00%   21.0/50

SF 140114 4x - H4 ct=0 4x, Blitz 3m+2s
                         
1   Stockfish 140114 64  +21/=64/-15 53.00%   53.0/100
2   Houdini 4 x64        +15/=64/-21 47.00%   47.0/100

To Mark Young I would like to say: play a LTC match SFdev - Houdini 4 (ct=0)
I found out it is indeed much stronger than default Houdini 4 against Stockfish (and Komodo) at these longer time controls

And finally here are four won games from the match where Houdini 4 and Stockfish both won from both sides out of the opening.


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[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Black "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "0.40;0.40"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=31.9 plies; 5.647kN/s B=24.5
plies; 7.964kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5
7. Nb3 Be7 8. Qd2 O-O 9. f3 Be6 10. O-O-O Qc7 11. g4 Rc8 {Both last book move}
12. g5 {[%eval 40,29] [%emt 0:00:43]} Nh5 {[%eval 40,26] [%emt 0:00:46]} 13.
Nd5 {[%eval 63,30] [%emt 0:00:43] (Kb1)} Bxd5 {[%eval 22,25] [%emt 0:00:35]}
14. exd5 {[%eval 46,31] [%emt 0:01:38]} Nd7 {[%eval 23,26] [%emt 0:00:37] (a5)}
15. Kb1 {[%eval 57,31] [%emt 0:02:01]} Nb6 {[%eval 16,25] [%emt 0:00:39]} 16.
Na5 {[%eval 42,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Rg1)} Nf4 {[%eval 12,24] [%emt 0:00:36]} 17.
Bxf4 {[%eval 40,33] [%emt 0:01:11]} exf4 {[%eval 12,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Bh3
{[%eval 40,34] [%emt 0:00:19]} Re8 {[%eval 7,26] [%emt 0:01:00]} 19. Qxf4 {
[%eval 27,33] [%emt 0:01:15]} Bf8 {[%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:00:31]} 20. Rd3 {
[%eval 31,32] [%emt 0:01:00]} Re5 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:01:10] (Re2)} 21. Qd2 {
[%eval 14,31] [%emt 0:01:25] (Rhd1)} Rae8 {[%eval -10,24] [%emt 0:00:46]} 22.
Bg4 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:37] (f4)} Re2 {[%eval -24,26] [%emt 0:00:34]} 23.
Qc1 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:17]} g6 {[%eval -32,26] [%emt 0:00:41] (Rf2)} 24.
f4 {[%eval -45,30] [%emt 0:00:58]} Rf2 {[%eval -35,26] [%emt 0:00:58]} 25. Rc3
{[%eval -51,30] [%emt 0:00:25] (Rf3)} Qe7 {[%eval -53,25] [%emt 0:01:16]} 26.
Rf3 {[%eval -44,30] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qe2 {[%eval -53,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 27.
Rxf2 {[%eval -44,30] [%emt 0:00:17]} Qxf2 {[%eval -51,22] [%emt 0:00:03]} 28.
Qf1 {[%eval -55,31] [%emt 0:01:45]} Qd4 {[%eval -57,25] [%emt 0:01:05]} 29. Nb3
{[%eval -78,31] [%emt 0:01:28]} Qe4 {[%eval -51,27] [%emt 0:01:12]} 30. Bh3 {
[%eval -74,31] [%emt 0:00:41] (h4)} Bg7 {[%eval -73,24] [%emt 0:01:14] (Qe3)}
31. f5 {[%eval -77,27] [%emt 0:00:25]} Be5 {[%eval -71,24] [%emt 0:00:40]} 32.
Bg2 {[%eval -95,27] [%emt 0:00:19]} Qh4 {[%eval -89,25] [%emt 0:00:36]} 33. c3
{[%eval -91,29] [%emt 0:00:19]} Nc4 {[%eval -98,25] [%emt 0:01:29]} 34. Qe2 {
[%eval -98,29] [%emt 0:00:19]} b5 {[%eval -98,23] [%emt 0:00:00] (gxf5)} 35.
Nd4 {[%eval -126,26] [%emt 0:00:28] (Nd2)} Qxg5 {[%eval -112,24] [%emt 0:00:45]
} 36. Re1 {[%eval -154,29] [%emt 0:00:32] (fxg6)} Kg7 {[%eval -118,24] [%emt 0:
00:52]} 37. fxg6 {[%eval -153,30] [%emt 0:00:21]} hxg6 {[%eval -118,22] [%emt
0:00:00]} 38. Nf3 {[%eval -164,31] [%emt 0:00:30]} Qf4 {[%eval -101,26] [%emt
0:01:30]} 39. a3 {[%eval -164,31] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rc8 {[%eval -111,26] [%emt 0:
01:19]} 40. Qe4 {[%eval -171,28] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qxf3 {[%eval -123,26] [%emt 0:
00:45] (Rh8)} 41. Qxf3 {[%eval -182,34] [%emt 0:00:57] (Bxf3)} Nd2+ {[%eval
-126,23] [%emt 0:00:10]} 42. Kc2 {[%eval -194,35] [%emt 0:01:17]} Nxf3 {[%eval
-125,22] [%emt 0:00:01]} 43. Bxf3 {[%eval -194,35] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rh8 {[%eval
-141,26] [%emt 0:01:05]} 44. Rh1 {[%eval -204,34] [%emt 0:00:37] (h3)} Bxh2 {
[%eval -154,24] [%emt 0:00:48]} 45. Be2 {[%eval -233,34] [%emt 0:01:48]} g5 {
[%eval -153,26] [%emt 0:00:46] (f5)} 46. Rf1 {[%eval -221,31] [%emt 0:00:39]}
Rh4 {[%eval -169,25] [%emt 0:00:27]} 47. Rf2 {[%eval -233,32] [%emt 0:00:34]
(Bd3)} g4 {[%eval -179,27] [%emt 0:00:37] (Be5)} 48. Kd1 {[%eval -258,34]
[%emt 0:00:35] (Bd3)} g3 {[%eval -208,27] [%emt 0:00:34] (Be5)} 49. Rg2 {
[%eval -283,34] [%emt 0:00:46]} Kf6 {[%eval -206,28] [%emt 0:00:24] (Kg6)} 50.
Kd2 {[%eval -300,35] [%emt 0:01:35] (Bf1)} Kg5 {[%eval -212,27] [%emt 0:00:25]}
51. Bf1 {[%eval -316,36] [%emt 0:00:42]} f5 {[%eval -250,29] [%emt 0:01:03]}
52. Ke1 {[%eval -316,39] [%emt 0:00:31]} Rf4 {[%eval -301,26] [%emt 0:00:31]
(Rh7)} 53. Re2 {[%eval -316,35] [%emt 0:00:27] (Rd2)} Bg1 {[%eval -347,23]
[%emt 0:00:30]} 54. Bg2 {[%eval -316,37] [%emt 0:00:26] (Bh3)} Bf2+ {[%eval
-453,22] [%emt 0:00:11]} 55. Kf1 {[%eval -438,37] [%emt 0:01:47] (Kd2)} Kg4 {
[%eval -495,21] [%emt 0:00:03] (a5)} 56. Bh1 {[%eval -759,30] [%emt 0:00:32]}
Kh3 {[%eval -505,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 57. Re6 {[%eval -813,33] [%emt 0:00:20]}
Bc5+ {[%eval -524,19] [%emt 0:00:01]} 58. Ke1 {[%eval -1241,37] [%emt 0:02:14]}
g2 {[%eval -533,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1
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[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Black "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "0.32;0.45"]
[PlyCount "97"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=22.2 plies; 7.612kN/s B=30.7
plies; 5.550kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5
7. Nb3 Be7 8. Qd2 O-O 9. f3 Be6 10. O-O-O Qc7 11. g4 Rc8 {Both last book move}
12. g5 {[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:51]} Nh5 {[%eval 45,28] [%emt 0:00:30]} 13.
Kb1 {[%eval 29,26] [%emt 0:00:46]} Nd7 {[%eval 41,29] [%emt 0:00:31]} 14. Rg1 {
[%eval 30,25] [%emt 0:01:16] (Qf2)} g6 {[%eval 34,28] [%emt 0:00:54]} 15. h4 {
[%eval 33,24] [%emt 0:01:17] (Nd5)} b5 {[%eval 49,31] [%emt 0:00:59] (Nb6)} 16.
Nd5 {[%eval 20,25] [%emt 0:00:52]} Bxd5 {[%eval 28,31] [%emt 0:00:40]} 17. exd5
{[%eval 19,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval 39,32] [%emt 0:01:30]} 18. Na5 {
[%eval 17,23] [%emt 0:00:58]} Bf8 {[%eval 39,31] [%emt 0:00:21] (Rab8)} 19. c3
{[%eval 23,24] [%emt 0:01:03]} Re8 {[%eval 27,29] [%emt 0:00:52] (Nxd5)} 20.
Nc6 {[%eval 31,25] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bg7 {[%eval 22,28] [%emt 0:00:40] (Rac8)}
21. Rg4 {[%eval 56,23] [%emt 0:00:51] (Rh1)} f5 {[%eval 19,29] [%emt 0:00:33]}
22. Rb4 {[%eval 48,24] [%emt 0:02:51] (Rg1)} Ng3 {[%eval 13,30] [%emt 0:00:41]}
23. Bh3 {[%eval 37,24] [%emt 0:00:49]} Nh5 {[%eval 23,31] [%emt 0:00:51] (Nc4)}
24. Bxb6 {[%eval 24,23] [%emt 0:00:56]} Qxb6 {[%eval 31,31] [%emt 0:00:39]} 25.
c4 {[%eval 51,24] [%emt 0:01:58]} Nf4 {[%eval 48,31] [%emt 0:00:41]} 26. Bf1 {
[%eval 51,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg1 {[%eval 53,32] [%emt 0:00:23]} 27. cxb5 {
[%eval 36,24] [%emt 0:00:24]} axb5 {[%eval 44,30] [%emt 0:00:44]} 28. Rb3 {
[%eval 51,24] [%emt 0:00:28]} Qh1 {[%eval 44,32] [%emt 0:01:04] (Qg3)} 29. Qb4
{[%eval 53,22] [%emt 0:00:18]} Bf8 {[%eval 60,31] [%emt 0:01:10]} 30. Qe1 {
[%eval 53,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} b4 {[%eval 85,32] [%emt 0:02:36]} 31. Qf2 {
[%eval 125,24] [%emt 0:01:39] (Rc1)} h6 {[%eval 85,31] [%emt 0:01:44]} 32. Be2
{[%eval 125,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg2 {[%eval 105,30] [%emt 0:00:19] (Qh3)} 33.
Qxg2 {[%eval 125,23] [%emt 0:00:20]} Nxg2 {[%eval 133,30] [%emt 0:00:31]} 34.
Rxb4 {[%eval 105,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} hxg5 {[%eval 130,31] [%emt 0:00:39] (Nf4)}
35. hxg5 {[%eval 166,22] [%emt 0:00:38]} Nf4 {[%eval 150,31] [%emt 0:00:18]}
36. Bd3 {[%eval 166,20] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bf1)} Nh3 {[%eval 156,28] [%emt 0:00:
38] (Be7)} 37. Bc2 {[%eval 165,25] [%emt 0:00:43] (Re1)} Bg7 {[%eval 215,28]
[%emt 0:00:28] (Kf7)} 38. Rb7 {[%eval 239,25] [%emt 0:01:38]} Bf8 {[%eval 246,
30] [%emt 0:00:20] (Nxg5)} 39. a4 {[%eval 273,21] [%emt 0:00:43] (Rh1)} e4 {
[%eval 296,29] [%emt 0:00:28]} 40. fxe4 {[%eval 351,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf2 {
[%eval 315,26] [%emt 0:00:14]} 41. Rf1 {[%eval 351,19] [%emt 0:00:03] (Rc1)}
Nxe4 {[%eval 429,32] [%emt 0:01:10]} 42. Bxe4 {[%eval 365,18] [%emt 0:00:00]}
Rxe4 {[%eval 445,32] [%emt 0:00:58] (Rxa4)} 43. a5 {[%eval 332,17] [%emt 0:00:
02]} Rg4 {[%eval 454,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Ra4)} 44. Rb6 {[%eval 352,16] [%emt 0:
00:00] (b4)} Bg7 {[%eval 496,31] [%emt 0:01:53] (Rxg5)} 45. a6 {[%eval 344,15]
[%emt 0:00:00]} Ra4 {[%eval 635,32] [%emt 0:01:25]} 46. a7 {[%eval 488,23]
[%emt 0:00:54]} R4xa7 {[%eval 823,33] [%emt 0:00:46] (R8xa7)} 47. Nxa7 {[%eval
495,22] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rxa7 {[%eval 998,36] [%emt 0:01:27]} 48. Rxd6 {[%eval
467,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} f4 {[%eval 1125,37] [%emt 0:01:26] (Kf7)} 49. Rxf4 {
[%eval 706,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 1-0
[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.08"]
[Round "23"]
[White "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Black "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E90"]
[Annotator "0.38;0.29"]
[PlyCount "111"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=30.5 plies; 5.156kN/s B=23.0
plies; 7.528kN/s} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 O-O 6. h3 e5 7.
d5 {Both last book move} Nbd7 {[%eval 29,25] [%emt 0:00:42]} 8. Bg5 {[%eval 38,
28] [%emt 0:00:39] (Bd3)} h6 {[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:42]} 9. Be3 {[%eval 38,
30] [%emt 0:00:19]} a5 {[%eval 33,25] [%emt 0:01:00] (Nc5)} 10. Bd3 {[%eval 60,
28] [%emt 0:00:51] (Be2)} Nh5 {[%eval 33,25] [%emt 0:00:27]} 11. O-O {[%eval
61,28] [%emt 0:01:02] (Qd2)} Nf4 {[%eval 20,23] [%emt 0:00:26]} 12. Bc2 {
[%eval 61,28] [%emt 0:00:19]} b6 {[%eval 28,22] [%emt 0:00:22] (Nb6)} 13. a3 {
[%eval 65,26] [%emt 0:00:29]} Ba6 {[%eval 34,23] [%emt 0:01:02]} 14. b3 {
[%eval 66,29] [%emt 0:00:19] (Nd2)} Nf6 {[%eval 41,23] [%emt 0:01:41]} 15. Rc1
{[%eval 66,29] [%emt 0:00:20]} Nh7 {[%eval 34,22] [%emt 0:01:02] (N6h5)} 16.
Re1 {[%eval 77,24] [%emt 0:00:30] (Ne2)} Ng5 {[%eval 33,21] [%emt 0:00:22]
(Nf6)} 17. Nh2 {[%eval 75,28] [%emt 0:00:21]} Bc8 {[%eval 49,24] [%emt 0:02:28]
(Nh7)} 18. Kh1 {[%eval 75,27] [%emt 0:00:30]} Nh7 {[%eval 40,23] [%emt 0:00:33]
} 19. Nb5 {[%eval 75,27] [%emt 0:00:21] (Qd2)} Bd7 {[%eval 51,23] [%emt 0:01:
13]} 20. Qd2 {[%eval 75,26] [%emt 0:00:22]} Nf6 {[%eval 53,23] [%emt 0:00:28]
(Re8)} 21. Nc3 {[%eval 76,29] [%emt 0:01:08] (Bxf4)} Re8 {[%eval 49,22] [%emt
0:01:02] (g5)} 22. Bd1 {[%eval 69,31] [%emt 0:00:24]} Bc8 {[%eval 47,23] [%emt
0:00:27] (g5)} 23. h4 {[%eval 79,28] [%emt 0:00:46] (Nf3)} h5 {[%eval 59,24]
[%emt 0:02:05] (Kh7)} 24. g3 {[%eval 113,27] [%emt 0:00:35]} Nh3 {[%eval 46,22]
[%emt 0:00:18]} 25. Bf3 {[%eval 129,29] [%emt 0:00:23]} Ng4 {[%eval 60,23]
[%emt 0:00:47] (Nd7)} 26. Nxg4 {[%eval 139,30] [%emt 0:01:26]} hxg4 {[%eval 60,
22] [%emt 0:00:11]} 27. Bg2 {[%eval 131,30] [%emt 0:01:27]} Qd7 {[%eval 63,22]
[%emt 0:00:21] (Kh7)} 28. Kh2 {[%eval 149,27] [%emt 0:01:12] (Nb5)} f6 {[%eval
68,22] [%emt 0:00:40] (f5)} 29. Rf1 {[%eval 156,27] [%emt 0:02:53] (Nb5)} f5 {
[%eval 57,21] [%emt 0:00:20]} 30. Bh6 {[%eval 164,27] [%emt 0:00:22] (exf5)} f4
{[%eval 20,21] [%emt 0:00:10] (Qe7)} 31. Bxg7 {[%eval 182,29] [%emt 0:00:38]}
Qxg7 {[%eval 11,22] [%emt 0:00:11] (Kxg7)} 32. Bxh3 {[%eval 190,27] [%emt 0:00:
24]} Qh6 {[%eval 10,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 33. Rcd1 {[%eval 198,28] [%emt 0:00:32]
(Qe2)} gxh3 {[%eval 94,20] [%emt 0:00:44] (g5)} 34. gxf4 {[%eval 190,27] [%emt
0:00:28]} exf4 {[%eval 106,23] [%emt 0:00:40] (Qxf4+)} 35. Rg1 {[%eval 244,30]
[%emt 0:00:25]} Bd7 {[%eval 98,23] [%emt 0:00:14]} 36. Rg5 {[%eval 258,31]
[%emt 0:00:15]} Re5 {[%eval 102,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} 37. Qxf4 {[%eval 262,33]
[%emt 0:00:27]} Rf8 {[%eval 116,24] [%emt 0:00:24] (Rxg5)} 38. Qg3 {[%eval 262,
34] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rxg5 {[%eval 120,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} 39. hxg5 {[%eval 278,
33] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qg7 {[%eval 117,25] [%emt 0:00:27] (Qh5)} 40. f4 {[%eval
274,37] [%emt 0:01:13] (Rd2)} Qf7 {[%eval 108,21] [%emt 0:00:08]} 41. Rf1 {
[%eval 274,35] [%emt 0:00:26]} Qg7 {[%eval 135,24] [%emt 0:00:32]} 42. Qe3 {
[%eval 305,30] [%emt 0:00:43]} Qh8 {[%eval 164,25] [%emt 0:03:18] (Rf7)} 43. a4
{[%eval 330,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Rf2)} Rf7 {[%eval 229,24] [%emt 0:02:52] (Qg7)}
44. Ne2 {[%eval 335,32] [%emt 0:00:34] (Nb5)} Qb2 {[%eval 205,22] [%emt 0:00:
35]} 45. Rf2 {[%eval 335,35] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qh8 {[%eval 208,24] [%emt 0:00:14]
(Re7)} 46. Nd4 {[%eval 462,31] [%emt 0:00:49] (Ng3)} Re7 {[%eval 289,22] [%emt
0:00:58] (Bg4)} 47. Re2 {[%eval 489,32] [%emt 0:00:24] (Rf1)} Bg4 {[%eval 319,
21] [%emt 0:00:30]} 48. Re1 {[%eval 516,31] [%emt 0:00:36]} Rf7 {[%eval 353,24]
[%emt 0:02:10]} 49. Rg1 {[%eval 528,35] [%emt 0:00:49] (Rf1)} Bd7 {[%eval 397,
23] [%emt 0:00:53] (Bc8)} 50. e5 {[%eval 621,35] [%emt 0:01:21]} Bf5 {[%eval
430,24] [%emt 0:00:17] (dxe5)} 51. Rg3 {[%eval 692,32] [%emt 0:00:34] (e6)} Qg7
{[%eval 494,23] [%emt 0:00:28]} 52. e6 {[%eval 810,36] [%emt 0:00:38]} Re7 {
[%eval 578,24] [%emt 0:00:34]} 53. Qc3 {[%eval 863,36] [%emt 0:00:20] (Rf3)}
Qf8 {[%eval 787,25] [%emt 0:01:43]} 54. Nc6 {[%eval 1006,36] [%emt 0:00:43]
(Nxf5)} Re8 {[%eval 1044,25] [%emt 0:01:33]} 55. Qf6 {[%eval 1042,37] [%emt 0:
00:20]} Qg7 {[%eval 733,23] [%emt 0:00:34]} 56. Nd4 {[%eval 1112,36] [%emt 0:
00:27]} 1-0
[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.09"]
[Round "24"]
[White "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Black "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E90"]
[Annotator "0.33;0.28"]
[PlyCount "68"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=21.5 plies; 7.427kN/s B=28.8
plies; 5.181kN/s} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 O-O 6. h3 e5 7.
d5 {Both last book move} Nh5 {[%eval 28,25] [%emt 0:00:53]} 8. Bg5 {[%eval 33,
24] [%emt 0:00:36] (g3)} Qe8 {[%eval 15,26] [%emt 0:00:26] (Bf6)} 9. Be3 {
[%eval 25,23] [%emt 0:01:37] (Be2)} f5 {[%eval 1,26] [%emt 0:01:29] (Nd7)} 10.
c5 {[%eval 33,22] [%emt 0:00:34] (a3)} Nf6 {[%eval 15,26] [%emt 0:00:29]} 11.
Bc4 {[%eval 35,22] [%emt 0:01:12]} Na6 {[%eval 22,26] [%emt 0:00:24] (Nxe4)}
12. Bxa6 {[%eval 28,22] [%emt 0:00:34] (cxd6)} bxa6 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:01:
13]} 13. O-O {[%eval 30,23] [%emt 0:00:29]} Rb8 {[%eval 25,25] [%emt 0:00:38]}
14. b3 {[%eval 31,23] [%emt 0:00:27]} h6 {[%eval 30,26] [%emt 0:00:47]} 15. Qc1
{[%eval 30,23] [%emt 0:01:00] (Bc1)} g5 {[%eval 0,25] [%emt 0:00:23]} 16. cxd6
{[%eval 14,23] [%emt 0:03:17] (exf5)} cxd6 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:24]} 17.
Qa3 {[%eval 4,23] [%emt 0:00:38]} f4 {[%eval -80,27] [%emt 0:00:37] (Nxe4)} 18.
Qxd6 {[%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:02:53]} g4 {[%eval -70,29] [%emt 0:00:24]} 19. hxg4
{[%eval -45,21] [%emt 0:00:32]} Bxg4 {[%eval -75,30] [%emt 0:00:35]} 20. Bc5 {
[%eval -46,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bxf3 {[%eval -199,30] [%emt 0:00:33]} 21. gxf3 {
[%eval -45,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg6+ {[%eval -207,31] [%emt 0:00:31] (Nd7)} 22.
Kh1 {[%eval -165,25] [%emt 0:02:03] (Kh2)} Qh5+ {[%eval -165,31] [%emt 0:00:29]
(Kh7)} 23. Kg2 {[%eval -200,23] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qg5+ {[%eval -164,33] [%emt 0:
00:19]} 24. Kh3 {[%eval -234,24] [%emt 0:01:18]} Kh7 {[%eval -179,34] [%emt 0:
00:43]} 25. Rg1 {[%eval -234,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Qh5+ {[%eval -179,33] [%emt 0:
00:20]} 26. Kg2 {[%eval -234,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rg8 {[%eval -169,31] [%emt 0:
00:31]} 27. Qe7 {[%eval -243,22] [%emt 0:00:11] (Kf1)} Rbe8 {[%eval -461,31]
[%emt 0:00:57] (Kh8)} 28. Qxa7 {[%eval -430,20] [%emt 0:00:48] (Qb7)} Kh8 {
[%eval -625,30] [%emt 0:00:31]} 29. Kf1 {[%eval -364,20] [%emt 0:00:09] (Ne2)}
Qxf3 {[%eval -747,31] [%emt 0:00:36]} 30. Rc1 {[%eval -358,19] [%emt 0:00:29]}
Rc8 {[%eval -766,33] [%emt 0:00:29] (Qd3+)} 31. Rg2 {[%eval -563,21] [%emt 0:
00:37] (Rg6)} Qh3 {[%eval -1160,30] [%emt 0:00:39] (Qd3+)} 32. d6 {[%eval
-1243,17] [%emt 0:00:27] (Kg1)} f3 {[%eval -2216,28] [%emt 0:00:47]} 33. Ke1 {
[%eval -1997,17] [%emt 0:00:20] (b4)} fxg2 {[%eval -2345,29] [%emt 0:00:21]}
34. Kd2 {[%eval -2169,18] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qf3 {[%eval -2900,29] [%emt 0:01:06]}
0-1
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I don't understand your testing methodology Bram, are we to be Houdini devotees only as testers. And set Houdini 4 up in a way that always favors Houdini 4 in the rating list. And not do the same for Houdini 4's opposition engines.

Are we to set contempt = 0 when if seems to favor Houdini 4, and then set Houdini 4 to contempt = 1 when Houdini is not playing Stockfish and Komodo, because Houdini 4 can gain more rating points against weaker engines with contempt set to 1.

Why this bias to Houdini 4 only, and not to the other engines to help them out. By findings settings that help them against Houdini 4.

Why do Houdini devotees always insist in this way of testing.

If CT=0 is best, then RH needs to make that the default setting.

I know of settings that also help SF, but in my ratings test I use default.
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Re: Stockfish 050314_4x - H4 (ct=0)4x - LTC match

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

mwyoung wrote:
beram wrote:Inspired by the Riddick match I played a 50 games match between latest Stockfish 050314 against H4 (ct=0) under CCRL 40/40 TC conditions
After 50 games: 37 draws (74%) SF won 7 and H4 6 games

In comparison with earlier blitz matches with TC 3m2s, same openings set, against previous versions of Stockfish, Houdini 4 did quite better at this longer time control.

Match conditions:
AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz, 4cpu,
TC 40/22 (CCRL40/40)
ponder = off
1024 Mb hash
25 opening positions, privat testsuite 3.0

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SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x TC 40/22 (CCRL 40/40)
                         
1   Stockfish 050314 64  +7/=37/-6 51.00%   25.5/50
2   Houdini 4 x64        +6/=37/-7 49.00%   24.5/50
The earlier matches ended as such:

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SF 040214 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, Blitz 3m+2s
                         
1   Stockfish 040214 64  +14/=30/-6 58.00%   29.0/50
2   Houdini 4 x64        +6/=30/-14 42.00%   21.0/50

SF 140114 4x - H4 ct=0 4x, Blitz 3m+2s
                         
1   Stockfish 140114 64  +21/=64/-15 53.00%   53.0/100
2   Houdini 4 x64        +15/=64/-21 47.00%   47.0/100

To Mark Young I would like to say: play a LTC match SFdev - Houdini 4 (ct=0)
I found out it is indeed much stronger than default Houdini 4 against Stockfish (and Komodo) at these longer time controls

And finally here are four won games from the match where Houdini 4 and Stockfish both won from both sides out of the opening.


[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Black "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "0.40;0.40"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=31.9 plies; 5.647kN/s B=24.5
plies; 7.964kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5
7. Nb3 Be7 8. Qd2 O-O 9. f3 Be6 10. O-O-O Qc7 11. g4 Rc8 {Both last book move}
12. g5 {[%eval 40,29] [%emt 0:00:43]} Nh5 {[%eval 40,26] [%emt 0:00:46]} 13.
Nd5 {[%eval 63,30] [%emt 0:00:43] (Kb1)} Bxd5 {[%eval 22,25] [%emt 0:00:35]}
14. exd5 {[%eval 46,31] [%emt 0:01:38]} Nd7 {[%eval 23,26] [%emt 0:00:37] (a5)}
15. Kb1 {[%eval 57,31] [%emt 0:02:01]} Nb6 {[%eval 16,25] [%emt 0:00:39]} 16.
Na5 {[%eval 42,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Rg1)} Nf4 {[%eval 12,24] [%emt 0:00:36]} 17.
Bxf4 {[%eval 40,33] [%emt 0:01:11]} exf4 {[%eval 12,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Bh3
{[%eval 40,34] [%emt 0:00:19]} Re8 {[%eval 7,26] [%emt 0:01:00]} 19. Qxf4 {
[%eval 27,33] [%emt 0:01:15]} Bf8 {[%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:00:31]} 20. Rd3 {
[%eval 31,32] [%emt 0:01:00]} Re5 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:01:10] (Re2)} 21. Qd2 {
[%eval 14,31] [%emt 0:01:25] (Rhd1)} Rae8 {[%eval -10,24] [%emt 0:00:46]} 22.
Bg4 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:37] (f4)} Re2 {[%eval -24,26] [%emt 0:00:34]} 23.
Qc1 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:17]} g6 {[%eval -32,26] [%emt 0:00:41] (Rf2)} 24.
f4 {[%eval -45,30] [%emt 0:00:58]} Rf2 {[%eval -35,26] [%emt 0:00:58]} 25. Rc3
{[%eval -51,30] [%emt 0:00:25] (Rf3)} Qe7 {[%eval -53,25] [%emt 0:01:16]} 26.
Rf3 {[%eval -44,30] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qe2 {[%eval -53,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 27.
Rxf2 {[%eval -44,30] [%emt 0:00:17]} Qxf2 {[%eval -51,22] [%emt 0:00:03]} 28.
Qf1 {[%eval -55,31] [%emt 0:01:45]} Qd4 {[%eval -57,25] [%emt 0:01:05]} 29. Nb3
{[%eval -78,31] [%emt 0:01:28]} Qe4 {[%eval -51,27] [%emt 0:01:12]} 30. Bh3 {
[%eval -74,31] [%emt 0:00:41] (h4)} Bg7 {[%eval -73,24] [%emt 0:01:14] (Qe3)}
31. f5 {[%eval -77,27] [%emt 0:00:25]} Be5 {[%eval -71,24] [%emt 0:00:40]} 32.
Bg2 {[%eval -95,27] [%emt 0:00:19]} Qh4 {[%eval -89,25] [%emt 0:00:36]} 33. c3
{[%eval -91,29] [%emt 0:00:19]} Nc4 {[%eval -98,25] [%emt 0:01:29]} 34. Qe2 {
[%eval -98,29] [%emt 0:00:19]} b5 {[%eval -98,23] [%emt 0:00:00] (gxf5)} 35.
Nd4 {[%eval -126,26] [%emt 0:00:28] (Nd2)} Qxg5 {[%eval -112,24] [%emt 0:00:45]
} 36. Re1 {[%eval -154,29] [%emt 0:00:32] (fxg6)} Kg7 {[%eval -118,24] [%emt 0:
00:52]} 37. fxg6 {[%eval -153,30] [%emt 0:00:21]} hxg6 {[%eval -118,22] [%emt
0:00:00]} 38. Nf3 {[%eval -164,31] [%emt 0:00:30]} Qf4 {[%eval -101,26] [%emt
0:01:30]} 39. a3 {[%eval -164,31] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rc8 {[%eval -111,26] [%emt 0:
01:19]} 40. Qe4 {[%eval -171,28] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qxf3 {[%eval -123,26] [%emt 0:
00:45] (Rh8)} 41. Qxf3 {[%eval -182,34] [%emt 0:00:57] (Bxf3)} Nd2+ {[%eval
-126,23] [%emt 0:00:10]} 42. Kc2 {[%eval -194,35] [%emt 0:01:17]} Nxf3 {[%eval
-125,22] [%emt 0:00:01]} 43. Bxf3 {[%eval -194,35] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rh8 {[%eval
-141,26] [%emt 0:01:05]} 44. Rh1 {[%eval -204,34] [%emt 0:00:37] (h3)} Bxh2 {
[%eval -154,24] [%emt 0:00:48]} 45. Be2 {[%eval -233,34] [%emt 0:01:48]} g5 {
[%eval -153,26] [%emt 0:00:46] (f5)} 46. Rf1 {[%eval -221,31] [%emt 0:00:39]}
Rh4 {[%eval -169,25] [%emt 0:00:27]} 47. Rf2 {[%eval -233,32] [%emt 0:00:34]
(Bd3)} g4 {[%eval -179,27] [%emt 0:00:37] (Be5)} 48. Kd1 {[%eval -258,34]
[%emt 0:00:35] (Bd3)} g3 {[%eval -208,27] [%emt 0:00:34] (Be5)} 49. Rg2 {
[%eval -283,34] [%emt 0:00:46]} Kf6 {[%eval -206,28] [%emt 0:00:24] (Kg6)} 50.
Kd2 {[%eval -300,35] [%emt 0:01:35] (Bf1)} Kg5 {[%eval -212,27] [%emt 0:00:25]}
51. Bf1 {[%eval -316,36] [%emt 0:00:42]} f5 {[%eval -250,29] [%emt 0:01:03]}
52. Ke1 {[%eval -316,39] [%emt 0:00:31]} Rf4 {[%eval -301,26] [%emt 0:00:31]
(Rh7)} 53. Re2 {[%eval -316,35] [%emt 0:00:27] (Rd2)} Bg1 {[%eval -347,23]
[%emt 0:00:30]} 54. Bg2 {[%eval -316,37] [%emt 0:00:26] (Bh3)} Bf2+ {[%eval
-453,22] [%emt 0:00:11]} 55. Kf1 {[%eval -438,37] [%emt 0:01:47] (Kd2)} Kg4 {
[%eval -495,21] [%emt 0:00:03] (a5)} 56. Bh1 {[%eval -759,30] [%emt 0:00:32]}
Kh3 {[%eval -505,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 57. Re6 {[%eval -813,33] [%emt 0:00:20]}
Bc5+ {[%eval -524,19] [%emt 0:00:01]} 58. Ke1 {[%eval -1241,37] [%emt 0:02:14]}
g2 {[%eval -533,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1
[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Black "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "0.32;0.45"]
[PlyCount "97"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=22.2 plies; 7.612kN/s B=30.7
plies; 5.550kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5
7. Nb3 Be7 8. Qd2 O-O 9. f3 Be6 10. O-O-O Qc7 11. g4 Rc8 {Both last book move}
12. g5 {[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:51]} Nh5 {[%eval 45,28] [%emt 0:00:30]} 13.
Kb1 {[%eval 29,26] [%emt 0:00:46]} Nd7 {[%eval 41,29] [%emt 0:00:31]} 14. Rg1 {
[%eval 30,25] [%emt 0:01:16] (Qf2)} g6 {[%eval 34,28] [%emt 0:00:54]} 15. h4 {
[%eval 33,24] [%emt 0:01:17] (Nd5)} b5 {[%eval 49,31] [%emt 0:00:59] (Nb6)} 16.
Nd5 {[%eval 20,25] [%emt 0:00:52]} Bxd5 {[%eval 28,31] [%emt 0:00:40]} 17. exd5
{[%eval 19,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval 39,32] [%emt 0:01:30]} 18. Na5 {
[%eval 17,23] [%emt 0:00:58]} Bf8 {[%eval 39,31] [%emt 0:00:21] (Rab8)} 19. c3
{[%eval 23,24] [%emt 0:01:03]} Re8 {[%eval 27,29] [%emt 0:00:52] (Nxd5)} 20.
Nc6 {[%eval 31,25] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bg7 {[%eval 22,28] [%emt 0:00:40] (Rac8)}
21. Rg4 {[%eval 56,23] [%emt 0:00:51] (Rh1)} f5 {[%eval 19,29] [%emt 0:00:33]}
22. Rb4 {[%eval 48,24] [%emt 0:02:51] (Rg1)} Ng3 {[%eval 13,30] [%emt 0:00:41]}
23. Bh3 {[%eval 37,24] [%emt 0:00:49]} Nh5 {[%eval 23,31] [%emt 0:00:51] (Nc4)}
24. Bxb6 {[%eval 24,23] [%emt 0:00:56]} Qxb6 {[%eval 31,31] [%emt 0:00:39]} 25.
c4 {[%eval 51,24] [%emt 0:01:58]} Nf4 {[%eval 48,31] [%emt 0:00:41]} 26. Bf1 {
[%eval 51,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg1 {[%eval 53,32] [%emt 0:00:23]} 27. cxb5 {
[%eval 36,24] [%emt 0:00:24]} axb5 {[%eval 44,30] [%emt 0:00:44]} 28. Rb3 {
[%eval 51,24] [%emt 0:00:28]} Qh1 {[%eval 44,32] [%emt 0:01:04] (Qg3)} 29. Qb4
{[%eval 53,22] [%emt 0:00:18]} Bf8 {[%eval 60,31] [%emt 0:01:10]} 30. Qe1 {
[%eval 53,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} b4 {[%eval 85,32] [%emt 0:02:36]} 31. Qf2 {
[%eval 125,24] [%emt 0:01:39] (Rc1)} h6 {[%eval 85,31] [%emt 0:01:44]} 32. Be2
{[%eval 125,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg2 {[%eval 105,30] [%emt 0:00:19] (Qh3)} 33.
Qxg2 {[%eval 125,23] [%emt 0:00:20]} Nxg2 {[%eval 133,30] [%emt 0:00:31]} 34.
Rxb4 {[%eval 105,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} hxg5 {[%eval 130,31] [%emt 0:00:39] (Nf4)}
35. hxg5 {[%eval 166,22] [%emt 0:00:38]} Nf4 {[%eval 150,31] [%emt 0:00:18]}
36. Bd3 {[%eval 166,20] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bf1)} Nh3 {[%eval 156,28] [%emt 0:00:
38] (Be7)} 37. Bc2 {[%eval 165,25] [%emt 0:00:43] (Re1)} Bg7 {[%eval 215,28]
[%emt 0:00:28] (Kf7)} 38. Rb7 {[%eval 239,25] [%emt 0:01:38]} Bf8 {[%eval 246,
30] [%emt 0:00:20] (Nxg5)} 39. a4 {[%eval 273,21] [%emt 0:00:43] (Rh1)} e4 {
[%eval 296,29] [%emt 0:00:28]} 40. fxe4 {[%eval 351,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf2 {
[%eval 315,26] [%emt 0:00:14]} 41. Rf1 {[%eval 351,19] [%emt 0:00:03] (Rc1)}
Nxe4 {[%eval 429,32] [%emt 0:01:10]} 42. Bxe4 {[%eval 365,18] [%emt 0:00:00]}
Rxe4 {[%eval 445,32] [%emt 0:00:58] (Rxa4)} 43. a5 {[%eval 332,17] [%emt 0:00:
02]} Rg4 {[%eval 454,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Ra4)} 44. Rb6 {[%eval 352,16] [%emt 0:
00:00] (b4)} Bg7 {[%eval 496,31] [%emt 0:01:53] (Rxg5)} 45. a6 {[%eval 344,15]
[%emt 0:00:00]} Ra4 {[%eval 635,32] [%emt 0:01:25]} 46. a7 {[%eval 488,23]
[%emt 0:00:54]} R4xa7 {[%eval 823,33] [%emt 0:00:46] (R8xa7)} 47. Nxa7 {[%eval
495,22] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rxa7 {[%eval 998,36] [%emt 0:01:27]} 48. Rxd6 {[%eval
467,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} f4 {[%eval 1125,37] [%emt 0:01:26] (Kf7)} 49. Rxf4 {
[%eval 706,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 1-0
[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.08"]
[Round "23"]
[White "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Black "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E90"]
[Annotator "0.38;0.29"]
[PlyCount "111"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=30.5 plies; 5.156kN/s B=23.0
plies; 7.528kN/s} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 O-O 6. h3 e5 7.
d5 {Both last book move} Nbd7 {[%eval 29,25] [%emt 0:00:42]} 8. Bg5 {[%eval 38,
28] [%emt 0:00:39] (Bd3)} h6 {[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:42]} 9. Be3 {[%eval 38,
30] [%emt 0:00:19]} a5 {[%eval 33,25] [%emt 0:01:00] (Nc5)} 10. Bd3 {[%eval 60,
28] [%emt 0:00:51] (Be2)} Nh5 {[%eval 33,25] [%emt 0:00:27]} 11. O-O {[%eval
61,28] [%emt 0:01:02] (Qd2)} Nf4 {[%eval 20,23] [%emt 0:00:26]} 12. Bc2 {
[%eval 61,28] [%emt 0:00:19]} b6 {[%eval 28,22] [%emt 0:00:22] (Nb6)} 13. a3 {
[%eval 65,26] [%emt 0:00:29]} Ba6 {[%eval 34,23] [%emt 0:01:02]} 14. b3 {
[%eval 66,29] [%emt 0:00:19] (Nd2)} Nf6 {[%eval 41,23] [%emt 0:01:41]} 15. Rc1
{[%eval 66,29] [%emt 0:00:20]} Nh7 {[%eval 34,22] [%emt 0:01:02] (N6h5)} 16.
Re1 {[%eval 77,24] [%emt 0:00:30] (Ne2)} Ng5 {[%eval 33,21] [%emt 0:00:22]
(Nf6)} 17. Nh2 {[%eval 75,28] [%emt 0:00:21]} Bc8 {[%eval 49,24] [%emt 0:02:28]
(Nh7)} 18. Kh1 {[%eval 75,27] [%emt 0:00:30]} Nh7 {[%eval 40,23] [%emt 0:00:33]
} 19. Nb5 {[%eval 75,27] [%emt 0:00:21] (Qd2)} Bd7 {[%eval 51,23] [%emt 0:01:
13]} 20. Qd2 {[%eval 75,26] [%emt 0:00:22]} Nf6 {[%eval 53,23] [%emt 0:00:28]
(Re8)} 21. Nc3 {[%eval 76,29] [%emt 0:01:08] (Bxf4)} Re8 {[%eval 49,22] [%emt
0:01:02] (g5)} 22. Bd1 {[%eval 69,31] [%emt 0:00:24]} Bc8 {[%eval 47,23] [%emt
0:00:27] (g5)} 23. h4 {[%eval 79,28] [%emt 0:00:46] (Nf3)} h5 {[%eval 59,24]
[%emt 0:02:05] (Kh7)} 24. g3 {[%eval 113,27] [%emt 0:00:35]} Nh3 {[%eval 46,22]
[%emt 0:00:18]} 25. Bf3 {[%eval 129,29] [%emt 0:00:23]} Ng4 {[%eval 60,23]
[%emt 0:00:47] (Nd7)} 26. Nxg4 {[%eval 139,30] [%emt 0:01:26]} hxg4 {[%eval 60,
22] [%emt 0:00:11]} 27. Bg2 {[%eval 131,30] [%emt 0:01:27]} Qd7 {[%eval 63,22]
[%emt 0:00:21] (Kh7)} 28. Kh2 {[%eval 149,27] [%emt 0:01:12] (Nb5)} f6 {[%eval
68,22] [%emt 0:00:40] (f5)} 29. Rf1 {[%eval 156,27] [%emt 0:02:53] (Nb5)} f5 {
[%eval 57,21] [%emt 0:00:20]} 30. Bh6 {[%eval 164,27] [%emt 0:00:22] (exf5)} f4
{[%eval 20,21] [%emt 0:00:10] (Qe7)} 31. Bxg7 {[%eval 182,29] [%emt 0:00:38]}
Qxg7 {[%eval 11,22] [%emt 0:00:11] (Kxg7)} 32. Bxh3 {[%eval 190,27] [%emt 0:00:
24]} Qh6 {[%eval 10,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 33. Rcd1 {[%eval 198,28] [%emt 0:00:32]
(Qe2)} gxh3 {[%eval 94,20] [%emt 0:00:44] (g5)} 34. gxf4 {[%eval 190,27] [%emt
0:00:28]} exf4 {[%eval 106,23] [%emt 0:00:40] (Qxf4+)} 35. Rg1 {[%eval 244,30]
[%emt 0:00:25]} Bd7 {[%eval 98,23] [%emt 0:00:14]} 36. Rg5 {[%eval 258,31]
[%emt 0:00:15]} Re5 {[%eval 102,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} 37. Qxf4 {[%eval 262,33]
[%emt 0:00:27]} Rf8 {[%eval 116,24] [%emt 0:00:24] (Rxg5)} 38. Qg3 {[%eval 262,
34] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rxg5 {[%eval 120,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} 39. hxg5 {[%eval 278,
33] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qg7 {[%eval 117,25] [%emt 0:00:27] (Qh5)} 40. f4 {[%eval
274,37] [%emt 0:01:13] (Rd2)} Qf7 {[%eval 108,21] [%emt 0:00:08]} 41. Rf1 {
[%eval 274,35] [%emt 0:00:26]} Qg7 {[%eval 135,24] [%emt 0:00:32]} 42. Qe3 {
[%eval 305,30] [%emt 0:00:43]} Qh8 {[%eval 164,25] [%emt 0:03:18] (Rf7)} 43. a4
{[%eval 330,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Rf2)} Rf7 {[%eval 229,24] [%emt 0:02:52] (Qg7)}
44. Ne2 {[%eval 335,32] [%emt 0:00:34] (Nb5)} Qb2 {[%eval 205,22] [%emt 0:00:
35]} 45. Rf2 {[%eval 335,35] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qh8 {[%eval 208,24] [%emt 0:00:14]
(Re7)} 46. Nd4 {[%eval 462,31] [%emt 0:00:49] (Ng3)} Re7 {[%eval 289,22] [%emt
0:00:58] (Bg4)} 47. Re2 {[%eval 489,32] [%emt 0:00:24] (Rf1)} Bg4 {[%eval 319,
21] [%emt 0:00:30]} 48. Re1 {[%eval 516,31] [%emt 0:00:36]} Rf7 {[%eval 353,24]
[%emt 0:02:10]} 49. Rg1 {[%eval 528,35] [%emt 0:00:49] (Rf1)} Bd7 {[%eval 397,
23] [%emt 0:00:53] (Bc8)} 50. e5 {[%eval 621,35] [%emt 0:01:21]} Bf5 {[%eval
430,24] [%emt 0:00:17] (dxe5)} 51. Rg3 {[%eval 692,32] [%emt 0:00:34] (e6)} Qg7
{[%eval 494,23] [%emt 0:00:28]} 52. e6 {[%eval 810,36] [%emt 0:00:38]} Re7 {
[%eval 578,24] [%emt 0:00:34]} 53. Qc3 {[%eval 863,36] [%emt 0:00:20] (Rf3)}
Qf8 {[%eval 787,25] [%emt 0:01:43]} 54. Nc6 {[%eval 1006,36] [%emt 0:00:43]
(Nxf5)} Re8 {[%eval 1044,25] [%emt 0:01:33]} 55. Qf6 {[%eval 1042,37] [%emt 0:
00:20]} Qg7 {[%eval 733,23] [%emt 0:00:34]} 56. Nd4 {[%eval 1112,36] [%emt 0:
00:27]} 1-0
[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "SF 050314 4x - Houdini 4(ct=0) 4x, 22m/"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2014.03.09"]
[Round "24"]
[White "Houdini 4 x64"]
[Black "Stockfish 050314 64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E90"]
[Annotator "0.33;0.28"]
[PlyCount "68"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1320:40/1320:40/1320"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=21.5 plies; 7.427kN/s B=28.8
plies; 5.181kN/s} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 O-O 6. h3 e5 7.
d5 {Both last book move} Nh5 {[%eval 28,25] [%emt 0:00:53]} 8. Bg5 {[%eval 33,
24] [%emt 0:00:36] (g3)} Qe8 {[%eval 15,26] [%emt 0:00:26] (Bf6)} 9. Be3 {
[%eval 25,23] [%emt 0:01:37] (Be2)} f5 {[%eval 1,26] [%emt 0:01:29] (Nd7)} 10.
c5 {[%eval 33,22] [%emt 0:00:34] (a3)} Nf6 {[%eval 15,26] [%emt 0:00:29]} 11.
Bc4 {[%eval 35,22] [%emt 0:01:12]} Na6 {[%eval 22,26] [%emt 0:00:24] (Nxe4)}
12. Bxa6 {[%eval 28,22] [%emt 0:00:34] (cxd6)} bxa6 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:01:
13]} 13. O-O {[%eval 30,23] [%emt 0:00:29]} Rb8 {[%eval 25,25] [%emt 0:00:38]}
14. b3 {[%eval 31,23] [%emt 0:00:27]} h6 {[%eval 30,26] [%emt 0:00:47]} 15. Qc1
{[%eval 30,23] [%emt 0:01:00] (Bc1)} g5 {[%eval 0,25] [%emt 0:00:23]} 16. cxd6
{[%eval 14,23] [%emt 0:03:17] (exf5)} cxd6 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:24]} 17.
Qa3 {[%eval 4,23] [%emt 0:00:38]} f4 {[%eval -80,27] [%emt 0:00:37] (Nxe4)} 18.
Qxd6 {[%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:02:53]} g4 {[%eval -70,29] [%emt 0:00:24]} 19. hxg4
{[%eval -45,21] [%emt 0:00:32]} Bxg4 {[%eval -75,30] [%emt 0:00:35]} 20. Bc5 {
[%eval -46,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bxf3 {[%eval -199,30] [%emt 0:00:33]} 21. gxf3 {
[%eval -45,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qg6+ {[%eval -207,31] [%emt 0:00:31] (Nd7)} 22.
Kh1 {[%eval -165,25] [%emt 0:02:03] (Kh2)} Qh5+ {[%eval -165,31] [%emt 0:00:29]
(Kh7)} 23. Kg2 {[%eval -200,23] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qg5+ {[%eval -164,33] [%emt 0:
00:19]} 24. Kh3 {[%eval -234,24] [%emt 0:01:18]} Kh7 {[%eval -179,34] [%emt 0:
00:43]} 25. Rg1 {[%eval -234,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Qh5+ {[%eval -179,33] [%emt 0:
00:20]} 26. Kg2 {[%eval -234,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rg8 {[%eval -169,31] [%emt 0:
00:31]} 27. Qe7 {[%eval -243,22] [%emt 0:00:11] (Kf1)} Rbe8 {[%eval -461,31]
[%emt 0:00:57] (Kh8)} 28. Qxa7 {[%eval -430,20] [%emt 0:00:48] (Qb7)} Kh8 {
[%eval -625,30] [%emt 0:00:31]} 29. Kf1 {[%eval -364,20] [%emt 0:00:09] (Ne2)}
Qxf3 {[%eval -747,31] [%emt 0:00:36]} 30. Rc1 {[%eval -358,19] [%emt 0:00:29]}
Rc8 {[%eval -766,33] [%emt 0:00:29] (Qd3+)} 31. Rg2 {[%eval -563,21] [%emt 0:
00:37] (Rg6)} Qh3 {[%eval -1160,30] [%emt 0:00:39] (Qd3+)} 32. d6 {[%eval
-1243,17] [%emt 0:00:27] (Kg1)} f3 {[%eval -2216,28] [%emt 0:00:47]} 33. Ke1 {
[%eval -1997,17] [%emt 0:00:20] (b4)} fxg2 {[%eval -2345,29] [%emt 0:00:21]}
34. Kd2 {[%eval -2169,18] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qf3 {[%eval -2900,29] [%emt 0:01:06]}
0-1
[/pgn]
I don't understand your testing methodology Bram, are we to be Houdini devotees only as testers. And set Houdini 4 up in a way that always favors Houdini 4 in the rating list. And not do the same for Houdini 4's opposition engines.

Are we to set contempt = 0 when if seems to favor Houdini 4, and then set Houdini 4 to contempt = 1 when Houdini is not playing Stockfish and Komodo, because Houdini 4 can gain more rating points against weaker engines with contempt set to 1.

Why this bias to Houdini 4 only, and not to the other engines to help them out. By findings settings that help them against Houdini 4.

Why do Houdini devotees always insist in this way of testing.

If CT=0 is best, then RH needs to make that the default setting.

I know of settings that also help SF, but in my ratings test I use default.
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Re: Stockfish 050314_4x - H4 (ct=0)4x - LTC match

Post by beram »

mwyoung wrote:
beram wrote:Inspired by the Riddick match I played a 50 games match between latest Stockfish 050314 against H4 (ct=0) under CCRL 40/40 TC conditions
After 50 games: 37 draws (74%) SF won 7 and H4 6 games

In comparison with earlier blitz matches with TC 3m2s, same openings set, against previous versions of Stockfish, Houdini 4 did quite better at this longer time control.

...

I don't understand your testing methodology Bram, are we to be Houdini devotees only as testers. And set Houdini 4 up in a way that always favors Houdini 4 in the rating list. And not do the same for Houdini 4's opposition engines.

Are we to set contempt = 0 when if seems to favor Houdini 4, and then set Houdini 4 to contempt = 1 when Houdini is not playing Stockfish and Komodo, because Houdini 4 can gain more rating points against weaker engines with contempt set to 1.

Why this bias to Houdini 4 only, and not to the other engines to help them out. By findings settings that help them against Houdini 4.

Why do Houdini devotees always insist in this way of testing.

If CT=0 is best, then RH needs to make that the default setting.

I know of settings that also help SF, but in my ratings test I use default.
Mark,
I am just curious whether you too will observe a considerable difference between H4 default and ct=0 in matches against SF
Just like Tom Casanovas I also prefers SF matches against the strongest possible opponents
Besides that the chess quality of the games than played will be highest
Of course feel free what and how to test, but there is no need in prooving SF is stronger than Houdini 4, because in matches that point already has been reached since SF DD came out.

happy testing
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Re: Stockfish 050314_4x - H4 (ct=0)4x - LTC match

Post by mwyoung »

beram wrote:
mwyoung wrote:
beram wrote:Inspired by the Riddick match I played a 50 games match between latest Stockfish 050314 against H4 (ct=0) under CCRL 40/40 TC conditions
After 50 games: 37 draws (74%) SF won 7 and H4 6 games

In comparison with earlier blitz matches with TC 3m2s, same openings set, against previous versions of Stockfish, Houdini 4 did quite better at this longer time control.

...

I don't understand your testing methodology Bram, are we to be Houdini devotees only as testers. And set Houdini 4 up in a way that always favors Houdini 4 in the rating list. And not do the same for Houdini 4's opposition engines.

Are we to set contempt = 0 when if seems to favor Houdini 4, and then set Houdini 4 to contempt = 1 when Houdini is not playing Stockfish and Komodo, because Houdini 4 can gain more rating points against weaker engines with contempt set to 1.

Why this bias to Houdini 4 only, and not to the other engines to help them out. By findings settings that help them against Houdini 4.

Why do Houdini devotees always insist in this way of testing.

If CT=0 is best, then RH needs to make that the default setting.

I know of settings that also help SF, but in my ratings test I use default.
Mark,
I am just curious whether you too will observe a considerable difference between H4 default and ct=0 in matches against SF
Just like Tom Casanovas I also prefers SF matches against the strongest possible opponents
Besides that the chess quality of the games than played will be highest
Of course feel free what and how to test, but there is no need in prooving SF is stronger than Houdini 4, because in matches that point already has been reached since SF DD came out.

happy testing
Yes overall I think CT=1 is stronger. When I run ratings test, I test against many programs.

I have posted test on this forum many times, because people claim CT=0 is best. Or some same if you would only test with CT=0 it would beat this program.

What I won't do as a tester is tune H4 or any program for every engine that program plays when I run my ratings test.

The only thing I generally change is threads, and something the programmer says I need to tune for my CPU.

CT=1 is default for H4 because RH deems it the strongest overall setting for his program. And my non rated matched seem to confirm this opinion. I have not found CT=0 to be a magic bullet for Houdini, as what it gives Houdini in one area, it takes away in the other areas.
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