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FCT1: SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64 is still running ...

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Hi there,

the next round Robin is SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64.
Round Robin LIVE table can be found on my webpage.

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Have fun!

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Re: FCT1: After 200 of 1.000, +26 Elo

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 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
     SmarThink 1.60 x64                2756  1.000  38.4%  36.8%   (predecessor)
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    800  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    700  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    600  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    500  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    400  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    300  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2782    200  41.8%  39.5%   22,0  20,5  42,5   24/37/39
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2777    100  41.0%  42.0%   24,5  16,5  41,0   20/42/38
  

                                          Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64       780.5/960  81.3%  3083  3115  19 19  32.8%     
 02. Komodo 7a x64                     758.5/960  79.0%  3059  3090  19 19  33.0%
 03. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64            725.0/960  75.5%  3026  3054  18 18  36.7%
 04. Fire 3.0 AVX x64                  631.5/960  65.8%  2948  2967  17 17  40.3%
 05. Protector 1.6.0 x64               560.5/960  58.4%  2896  2908  16 16  46.8% 
 06. Chiron 2.0 x64                    551.0/960  57.4%  2889  2900  17 17  41.5%
 07. Hannibal 1.4b x64                 523.5/960  54.5%  2870  2878  17 17  43.6%
 08. Texel 1.04 x64                    501.0/960  52.2%  2854  2861  17 17  41.5% 
 09. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64              469.0/960  48.9%  2832  2836  16 17  43.8%
 10. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32                463.0/960  48.2%  2828  2831  16 16  45.0%
 11. Shredder 12 x64                   422.5/960  44.0%  2800  2800  17 17  42.8%
 12. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32              405.0/960  42.2%  2788  2786  17 17  40.8%
 13. Junior 13.8.04 Yokohama x64       404.0/960  42.1%  2787  2785  17 17  42.7% 
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64            83.5/200  41.8%  2782  2780  38 38  39.5% 
 15. Quazar 0.4 x64                    384.5/960  40.1%  2773  2770  17 17  42.0% 
 16. Zappa Mexico II x64               374.0/960  39.0%  2766  2761  17 17  43.1%
 17. Spark 1.0 x64                     366.5/960  38.2%  2760  2755  17 18  38.2%
 18. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64         335.0/960  34.9%  2737  2729  17 17  40.4%
 19. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64               334.0/960  34.8%  2736  2728  18 18  38.1%
 20. Vajolet2 1.28 POP x64             333.0/960  34.7%  2735  2728  17 17  40.2%
 21. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64              294.5/960  30.7%  2705  2695  18 18  38.2%
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Re: FCT1: After 400 of 1.000, +03 Elo

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 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
     SmarThink 1.60 x64                2756  1.000  38.4%  36.8%   (predecessor)
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    800  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    700  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    600  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    500  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 16. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2759    400  38.6%  35.2%   21,0  13,5  34,5   20/29/51
 15. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2770    300  40.0%  37.7%   19,0  17,5  36,5   20/33/47
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2782    200  41.8%  39.5%   22,0  20,5  42,5   24/37/39
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2777    100  41.0%  42.0%   24,5  16,5  41,0   20/42/38
  

                                          Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64       789.5/970  81.4%  3082  3115  19 19  32.7%     
 02. Komodo 7a x64                     766.0/970  79.0%  3056  3088  19 19  32.8%
 03. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64            735.0/970  75.8%  3026  3055  18 18  36.3%
 04. Fire 3.0 AVX x64                  638.0/970  65.8%  2946  2965  17 17  40.4%
 05. Protector 1.6.0 x64               567.5/970  58.5%  2895  2907  16 16  46.5% 
 06. Chiron 2.0 x64                    559.0/970  57.6%  2889  2900  17 17  41.2%
 07. Hannibal 1.4b x64                 531.0/970  54.7%  2869  2878  16 16  43.5%
 08. Texel 1.04 x64                    508.5/970  52.4%  2854  2861  17 17  41.3% 
 09. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64              475.5/970  49.0%  2831  2835  16 16  43.8%
 10. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32                469.5/970  48.4%  2827  2831  16 16  44.8%
 11. Shredder 12 x64                   429.0/970  44.2%  2800  2800  17 17  42.5%
 12. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32              410.5/970  42.3%  2787  2785  17 17  40.9%
 12. Junior 13.8.04 Yokohama x64       410.5/970  42.3%  2787  2785  17 17  43.0% 
 14. Quazar 0.4 x64                    389.5/970  40.2%  2772  2769  17 17  42.2% 
 15. Zappa Mexico II x64               381.5/970  39.3%  2766  2762  17 17  43.0%
 16. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           154.5/400  38.6%  2759  2754  28 28  35.2% 
 16. Spark 1.0 x64                     371.5/970  38.3%  2759  2754  17 17  38.0%
 18. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64               339.5/970  35.05  2736  2728  17 18  38.2%
 19. Vajolet2 1.28 POP x64             339.0/970  34.9%  2735  2728  17 17  40.0%
 20. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64         338.0/970  34.8%  2734  2727  17 17  40.2%
 21. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64              297.0/970  30.6%  2703  2693  18 18  38.1%
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Re: FCT1: After 600 of 1.000, +07 Elo (unclear prognosis)

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Hi there,

this round-robin seems to be unclear if I am looking on the result in Elo.

Elo go down / go high ... but inside the normals max +-10 points from a 100 game stat.

Very interesting stats SmarThink produce. Never see that. Perhaps three bad series in the "Steven Seagal" means sequel.

If so, never see that in SWCR1 and SWCR2.
Means 3 times bad 100-games series (and I am playing around 200.000 games).

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 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
     SmarThink 1.60 x64                2756  1.000  38.4%  36.8%   (predecessor)
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    800  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----    700  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 16. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2763    600  39.1%  35.5%   24,5  19,5  44,0   29/30/41  +4,9% Elo go down
 17. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2755    500  38.1%  36.6%   21,0  15,0  36,0   15/42/43
 16. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2759    400  38.6%  35.2%   21,0  13,5  34,5   20/29/51  -4,1% Elo go high
 15. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2770    300  40.0%  37.7%   19,0  17,5  36,5   20/33/47  -3,5% Elo go high
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2782    200  41.8%  39.5%   22,0  20,5  42,5   24/37/39
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2777    100  41.0%  42.0%   24,5  16,5  41,0   20/42/38
  

                                          Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64       799.0/980  81.5%  3083  3116  19 19  32.4%     
 02. Komodo 7a x64                     775.5/980  79.1%  3058  3089  19 19  32.6%
 03. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64            743.5/980  75.9%  3027  3056  18 18  36.0%
 04. Fire 3.0 AVX x64                  647.0/980  66.0%  2948  2967  17 17  40.2%
 05. Protector 1.6.0 x64               571.5/980  58.3%  2893  2906  16 16  46.4% 
 06. Chiron 2.0 x64                    567.0/980  57.9%  2890  2902  17 17  41.0%
 07. Hannibal 1.4b x64                 534.5/980  54.5%  2868  2877  16 16  43.6%
 08. Texel 1.04 x64                    515.0/980  52.6%  2855  2862  17 17  41.2% 
 09. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64              482.5/980  49.2%  2833  2837  16 16  43.6%
 10. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32                475.0/980  48.5%  2828  2831  16 16  44.9%
 11. Shredder 12 x64                   433.5/980  44.2%  2800  2800  17 17  42.1%
 12. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32              416.5/980  42.5%  2788  2786  17 17  41.1%
 12. Junior 13.8.04 Yokohama x64       416.5/980  42.5%  2788  2786  16 16  43.2% 
 14. Quazar 0.4 x64                    395.5/980  40.4%  2773  2770  17 17  42.1% 
 15. Zappa Mexico II x64               386.0/980  39.4%  2767  2763  16 17  43.1%
 16. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           234.5/600  39.1%  2763  2759  23 23  35.5% 
 17. Spark 1.0 x64                     377.0/980  38.5%  2760  2756  17 17  38.2%
 18. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64               345.0/980  35.2%  2737  2730  17 17  38.2%
 19. Vajolet2 1.28 POP x64             343.0/980  35.0%  2736  2728  17 17  40.2%
 20. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64         341.0/980  34.8%  2734  2727  17 17  40.2%
 21. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64              301.0/980  30.7%  2703  2693  17 18  38.4%
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Re: FCT1: Bug report ... 28 results are wrong!

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Hi there,

update with the correct stats will be follow in the next 2 hours :-(

Best
Frank



Hi Sergei,

your latest release "SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 X64", tested in FCT1 have a bigger bug.

It must be do to with endgame databases.
In a still running game vs. Vajolet2 1.28 x64 (game from round 45 of 50 I saw the mistake and checked the complete database with 920 games so far).

In clearly won or draw positions Smarthink gave an half or in 1 of 28 cases the full point for nothing.

PGN download with games comments by Shredder Classic GUI:
http://www.amateurschach.de/download/sm ... -games.zip

Sergei, have a look in the games!
Hope you can find and fix it with your next update?

End results for FCT1 round Robin are corrected in tournament table.
Stats on my webpage will be updated and corrected soon!

At the moment 920 of 1.000 games played, 28 game results must be corrected.

Frank's Chess Page
http://www.amateurschach.de

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Frank
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Re: FCT1: After 900 of 1.000, +22 Elo * CORRECTION *

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

here the correction of all stats after 900 of 1.000 games. 28 game results are corrected. See my bug report I wrote in the message before.

Best
Frank

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 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
     SmarThink 1.60 x64                2756  1.000  38.4%  36.8%   (predecessor)
 --. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2778    900  41.2%  36.2%   24,0  22,0  46,0   29/34/37  +4,8% Elo go down
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2774    800  40.6%  36.5%   20,0  21,5  41,5   22/39/39
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2773    700  40.5%  36.1%   20,5  19,0  39,5   23/33/44
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2772    600  40.7%  36.7%   25,0  21,0  46,0   31/30/39  +5,3% Elo go down
 16. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2765    500  39.6%  38.0%   21,5  16,0  37,5   16/43/41
 15. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2770    400  40.1%  36.8%   22,0  13,5  35,5   21/29/50  -4,6% Elo go high
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2782    300  41.7%  39.3%   20,0  17,5  37,5   21/33/46  -4,2% Elo go high
 12. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2797    200  43.8%  42.5%   22,5  22,0  44,5   25/39/36
 12. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2790    100  43.0%  46.0%   25,5  17,5  43,0   20/46/34
  

                                          Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64       812.0/995  81.6%  3083  3116  19 19  32.4%     
 02. Komodo 7a x64                     788.0/995  79.2%  3058  3088  19 19  32.6%
 03. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64            756.0/995  76.0%  3027  3055  18 18  36.0%
 04. Fire 3.0 AVX x64                  657.5/995  66.1%  2947  2966  17 17  40.3%
 05. Protector 1.6.0 x64               581.5/995  58.4%  2893  2905  16 16  46.1% 
 06. Chiron 2.0 x64                    577.0/995  58.0%  2890  2902  17 17  41.2%
 07. Hannibal 1.4b x64                 544.0/995  54.7%  2868  2876  16 16  43.6%
 08. Texel 1.04 x64                    524.5/995  52.7%  2855  2861  17 17  40.9% 
 09. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64              489.5/995  49.2%  2831  2835  16 16  43.3%
 10. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32                483.5/995  48.6%  2827  2835  16 16  44.9%
 11. Shredder 12 x64                   442.0/995  44.4%  2800  2800  16 16  42.2%
 12. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32              423.5/995  42.6%  2787  2785  17 17  41.3%
 13. Junior 13.8.04 Yokohama x64       423.0/995  42.5%  2787  2785  16 16  43.4% 
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           371.0/900  41.2%  2778  2775  18 18  36.2% 
 15. Quazar 0.4 x64                    401.0/995  40.3%  2772  2768  17 17  42.0% 
 16. Zappa Mexico II x64               390.0/995  39.2%  2764  2760  16 16  42.8%
 17. Spark 1.0 x64                     382.5/995  38.4%  2759  2754  17 17  38.3%
 18. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64               351.5/995  35.3%  2737  2730  17 17  37.9%
 19. Vajolet2 1.28 POP x64             350.0/995  35.2%  2736  2728  17 17  40.4%
 20. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64         346.5/995  34.8%  2733  2726  17 17  40.1%
 21. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64              305.5/995  30.7%  2702  2692  17 17  38.1%
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Re: FCT1: After 1000 of 1.000, +18 Elo * FINAL *

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Hi there,

I found 4 games more up to move number 900 and corrected the stats again.

Here are the final results!
Possible that after a bad last serie "Elo go high" with more games.

Games and more can be found on my webapge under:

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Best
Frank

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 Version: 1.03
 Engine : SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64
 Result : +18 Elo
 Time   : August 21st - August 24tht, 2014

 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
     SmarThink 1.60 x64                2756  1.000  38.4%  36.8%   (predecessor)
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2774  1.000  40.8%  36.1%   20,0  14,5  34,5   19/31/50 -6,3% Elo go up
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2779    900  41.4%  36.7%   24,0  22,0  46,0   29/34/37 +4,6% Elo go down
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2776    800  40.9%  37.0%   20,0  21,5  41,5   22/39/39
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2775    700  40.8%  36.7%   21,0  19,0  40,0   23/34/43
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2776    600  40.9%  37.2%   25,0  21,0  46,0   31/30/39 +5,1% Elo go down
 15. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2767    500  39.9%  38.6%   22,0  16,0  38,0   16/44/40
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2771    400  40.4%  37.2%   22,0  13,5  35,5   21/29/50 -4,9% Elo go up
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2785    300  42.0%  40.0%   20,0  17,5  37,5   21/33/46 -4,5% Elo go up
 11. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2800    200  44.2%  43.5%   23,0  22,0  45,0   25/40/35
 12. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64           2795    100  43.5%  47.0%   26,0  17,5  43,0   20/47/33

     Programs                      Score       1-0  =  0-1          EloS  Baye  Ordo  +   -  Draws  MoveØ won<50 lost<50
 01. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64   816.5/1000  655 323  22  81.7%   3083  3060  3115  19 19  32.3%   80     34       0
 02. Komodo 7a x64                 792.5/1000  630 325  45  79.2%   3057  3043  3088  19 19  32.5%   84     24       1
 03. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64        759.0/1000  579 360  61  75.9%   3026  3014  3053  18 18  36.0%   86     20       3
 04. Fire 3.0 AVX x64              661.0/1000  459 404 137  66.1%   2946  2939  2965  17 17  40.4%   88      9       4
 05. Protector 1.6.0 x64           586.0/1000  356 460 184  58.6%   2893  2888  2905  16 16  46.0%   89     12       2
 06. Chiron 2.0 x64                581.0/1000  375 412 213  58.1%   2890  2887  2901  17 17  41.2%   87     16       5
 07. Hannibal 1.4b x64             546.0/1000  328 436 236  54.6%   2866  2863  2874  16 16  43.6%   89     10      11
 08. Texel 1.04 x64                527.5/1000  323 409 268  52.8%   2854  2852  2860  17 17  40.9%   89     15       5
 09. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64          493.5/1000  277 433 290  49.4%   2831  2828  2835  16 16  43.3%   88      5      15
 10. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32            487.0/1000  262 450 288  48.7%   2827  2825  2830  16 16  45.0%   88     10       7
 11. Shredder 12 x64               446.0/1000  236 420 344  44.6%   2800  2800  2800  16 16  42.0%   86      5      16
 12. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32          427.5/1000  221 413 366  42.8%   2787  2786  2786  17 17  41.3%   88      6      10
 13. Junior 13.8.04 Yokohama x64   425.5/1000  209 433 358  42.5%   2786  2784  2784  16 16  43.3%   84      5       1
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64       407.5/1000  227 361 412  40.8%   2774  2772  2771  17 17  36.1%   88     10       5
 16. SmarThink 1.60 x64            384.0/1000  200 368 432  38.4%   2756  2757  2750  17 17  36.8%   88      7      11   predecessor
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 15. Quazar 0.4 x64                406.0/1000  197 418 385  40.6%   2773  2773  2769  16 17  41.8%   99      3       8
 16. Zappa Mexico II x64           391.5/1000  178 427 395  39.1%   2763  2766  2758  16 16  42.7%   90      7       9
 17. Spark 1.0 x64                 385.5/1000  193 385 422  38.6%   2759  2759  2754  17 17  38.5%   88     15       2
 18. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64           353.0/1000  164 378 458  35.3%   2736  2738  2728  17 17  37.8%   86      3      25
 19. Vajolet2 1.28 POP x64         352.5/1000  150 405 445  35.2%   2735  2737  2728  17 17  40.5%   87      0      20
 20. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64     348.5/1000  148 401 451  34.8%   2732  2735  2725  17 17  40.1%   82      2      43
 21. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64          306.5/1000  116 381 503  30.6%   2701  2707  2690  17 17  38.1%   86      2      21
Frank Quisinsky
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Re: FCT1: Elo go up and go down ... explanation!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

Short hint:
after 220 100-game-series my prognosis with "Elo go up or go down" is to 94,7% right. It is a better information as ErrBar in rating tables because during a test it is to see what happens.

Statistic Gimmick!

Best
Frank