Chess Cheating

CRoberson · Post by **CRoberson** » Thu May 07, 2015 5:47 am

Instead of one person cheating, a team effort could be used. The person that is planned to win doesn't cheat. His team members cheat occasionally and only against those that challenge their friends score.

This is sort of like what Fischer claimed the Russians did in tournaments.

Norm Pollock · Post by **Norm Pollock** » Thu May 07, 2015 5:58 am

Back in Fischer's day, why wasn't the "40 move adjournment" rule considered cheating?

Terry McCracken · Post by **Terry McCracken** » Thu May 07, 2015 6:18 am

Norm Pollock wrote:Back in Fischer's day, why wasn't the "40 move adjournment" rule considered cheating?

Simple, no computers.

Terry McCracken · Post by **Terry McCracken** » Thu May 07, 2015 6:20 am

CRoberson wrote:Instead of one person cheating, a team effort could be used. The person that is planned to win doesn't cheat. His team members cheat occasionally and only against those that challenge their friends score.

This is sort of like what Fischer claimed the Russians did in tournaments.

They likely did.

Norm Pollock · Post by **Norm Pollock** » Thu May 07, 2015 10:36 pm

Terry McCracken wrote:
Norm Pollock wrote:Back in Fischer's day, why wasn't the "40 move adjournment" rule considered cheating?
Simple, no computers.

When Fischer played Spassky, Spassky had a whole team of Soviet GMs doing his analysis during the 40th move break. Fischer had 1 or 2 GMs. I would take a team of 24 Soviet GMs over Komodo/SF to analyze for me anytime, and it was considered legal.

APassionForCriminalJustic · Thu May 07, 2015 11:09 pm

Norm Pollock wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Norm Pollock wrote:Back in Fischer's day, why wasn't the "40 move adjournment" rule considered cheating?
Simple, no computers.
When Fischer played Spassky, Spassky had a whole team of Soviet GMs doing his analysis during the 40th move break. Fischer had 1 or 2 GMs. I would take a team of 24 Soviet GMs over Komodo/SF to analyze for me anytime, and it was considered legal.

24 soviet grandmasters isn't even an insect on the shoulder of Komodo or Stockfish.

Dirt · Post by **Dirt** » Thu May 07, 2015 11:13 pm

APassionForCriminalJustic wrote:24 soviet grandmasters isn't even an insect on the shoulder of Komodo or Stockfish.

True, but it was still unfair. Adjournments should have been banned much earlier than they were.

Terry McCracken · Post by **Terry McCracken** » Fri May 08, 2015 2:38 am

Norm Pollock wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Norm Pollock wrote:Back in Fischer's day, why wasn't the "40 move adjournment" rule considered cheating?
Simple, no computers.
When Fischer played Spassky, Spassky had a whole team of Soviet GMs doing his analysis during the 40th move break. Fischer had 1 or 2 GMs. I would take a team of 24 Soviet GMs over Komodo/SF to analyze for me anytime, and it was considered legal.

Fischer didn't take the advice of his seconds and he thrashed Spassky and his team.

There is nothing wrong with it.

Terry McCracken · Post by **Terry McCracken** » Fri May 08, 2015 2:40 am

Dirt wrote:
APassionForCriminalJustic wrote:24 soviet grandmasters isn't even an insect on the shoulder of Komodo or Stockfish.
True, but it was still unfair. Adjournments should have been banned much earlier than they were.

Why? The greatest matches were in the 20th century.

Today, it's a joke.

Terry McCracken · Post by **Terry McCracken** » Fri May 08, 2015 2:43 am

APassionForCriminalJustic wrote:
Norm Pollock wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Norm Pollock wrote:Back in Fischer's day, why wasn't the "40 move adjournment" rule considered cheating?
Simple, no computers.
When Fischer played Spassky, Spassky had a whole team of Soviet GMs doing his analysis during the 40th move break. Fischer had 1 or 2 GMs. I would take a team of 24 Soviet GMs over Komodo/SF to analyze for me anytime, and it was considered legal.
24 soviet grandmasters isn't even an insect on the shoulder of Komodo or Stockfish.

Where do you get such Keene insight, Raymond?

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