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FCP: Rating List after 51500 games, v2.07.s9 ... comments!

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After the Critter 1.6a x64 test run!

Now I added 4 older engines with:
1. Sjeng c't 2010 w32
2. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64
3. Nemo 1.01 Beta x64
4. Critter 1.6a x64

In the next months 4 other older engines follow:
1. Murka 3 x64
2. Scorpio 2.7.7 POP x64
3. Booot 5.2.0 x64
4. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64

Have a look in my ToDo Calendar:
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_todo.htm

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"FCP Rating List"
 Will be updated after ~ 1000 new games!
 ----------------------------------------

 Date             : May 24th, 2015 (12:00)
 Games            : 51500, 30600 games sorted out!
 Version          : 2.07.s9
 Hardware         : 2x Intel Core i7-4770K *4.3Ghz, 45-minutes games
 Engines          : Maximum allowed = two versions of same engine

 Calculation      : Ordo 1.0, "Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32" with 2.825 Elo / News 057 & News 062
 Parameter        : Ordo_10.exe -a 2825 -A "Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32" -p 1.pgn -o rating.txt -W -s1000 -D -E -V
 Conditions       : http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conditions.htm



      Program                          Elo    +    -   Games   Score  Av.Op.  Draw
  01. Stockfish 26.04.15 BMI2 x64      3151   16   16  1700    82.9%   2846   30.8%
  02. Komodo 9 x64                     3149   17   17  1700    82.6%   2847   29.5%
  --. Stockfish 6 BMI2 x64             3135   16   16  1700    83.8%   2823   28.9%
  --. Komodo 8 x64                     3105   15   15  1700    80.9%   2830   31.6%
  03. Fire 4 x64                       3047   13   13  2000    74.2%   2839   35.5%
  04. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64           3038   14   14  1850    72.0%   2853   40.8%
  05. Equinox 3.30 x64                 2990   12   12  2000    68.3%   2841   42.4%
  06. Critter 1.6a x64                 2981   14   14  1600    67.7%   2841   44.3%
  07. Sting SF 4.8.4 x64               2933   12   12  1900    60.8%   2850   45.4%
  08. Protector 1.7.0 x64              2911   13   13  1700    55.6%   2870   45.2%
  --. Critter 0.90 SSE4 x64            2900   13   13  1800    56.6%   2852   44.9%
  09. Chiron 2.0 x64                   2897   10   10  3000    61.5%   2809   40.5%
  09. Hannibal 1.5 x64                 2897   12   12  1900    56.7%   2847   44.9%
  11. Texel 1.05 x64                   2895   12   12  1950    56.7%   2846   43.0%
  12. Naum 4.6 x64                     2883   11   11  2200    57.5%   2826   43.3%
  --. Hannibal 1.4b x64                2863   10   10  2500    59.2%   2794   43.3%
  --. Texel 1.04 x64                   2848   10   10  2300    57.5%   2793   42.4%
  13. Nirvanachess 2.0a x64            2837   11   11  2250    52.1%   2826   44.8%
  14. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64             2830    9    9  3000    53.1%   2811   42.5%
  15. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32               2825    9    9  3000    52.4%   2811   42.9%
  16. Andscacs 0.72 POP x64            2814   11   11  2200    49.0%   2828   42.5%
  17. Sjeng c't 2010 w32               2798   12   12  2100    46.4%   2833   41.8%
  18. Shredder 12 x64                  2793   12   12  1900    42.8%   2855   42.5%
  19. Junior 13.3.00 x64               2785    9    9  2850    46.4%   2818   40.3%
  20. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32             2774   12   12  1800    39.4%   2864   41.5%
  21. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64    2758   11   11  2250    42.0%   2827   42.6%
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Current TOP-21, FCT0
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  22. Quazar 0.4 x64                   2757   13   13  1700    38.0%   2860   39.7%
  23. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64             2755   12   12  1850    37.7%   2859   37.7%
  24. Cheng4 0.38 x64                  2753   12   12  1700    43.8%   2809   41.6%
  25. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64            2752    9    9  3250    44.2%   2802   43.8%
  26. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64          2749    9    9  3000    42.4%   2814   37.6%
  27. Spark 1.0 x64                    2748    9    9  3100    43.5%   2805   41.8%
  28. Zappa Mexico II x64              2745   14   14  1450    35.6%   2870   39.7%
  29. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64                  2742   12   12  1900    41.6%   2815   40.8%
  30. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64           2733   12   12  2100    38.2%   2834   41.0%
  31. Vajolet2 1.45 POP x64            2727    9    9  3450    41.4%   2800   41.8%
  --. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64        2722   13   13  1550    42.8%   2781   42.1%
  32. Atlas 3.80 x64                   2717   13   13  1600    39.8%   2806   40.2%
  32. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64              2717    9    9  3450    40.1%   2800   38.0%
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Qualificated for Special 2900+ test-runs
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  34. Arasan 17.5 POP x64              2715   14   14  1350    42.7%   2774   43.3%
  35. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64       2686   15   15  1150    40.7%   2756   42.7%
  --. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64             2686   14   14  1550    36.9%   2794   38.5%
  36. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64           2686   13   13  1600    38.8%   2770   42.8%
  --. Arasan 17.4 POP x64              2683   12   12  1800    38.6%   2772   41.1%
  --. Cheng4 0.36c x64                 2679   13   13  1600    39.0%   2766   41.9%
  --. Fizbo 1.2 x64                    2677   14   14  1300    37.0%   2782   38.2%
  37. EXchess 7.51b x64                2674   13   13  1650    36.7%   2780   41.2%
  38. DisasterArea 1.54 x64            2673   13   13  1500    38.7%   2759   43.6%
  39. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64              2665   15   15  1200    38.3%   2752   44.3%
  --. Rodent 1.6 Build 6 POP x64       2658   15   15  1350    34.8%   2778   37.4%
  40. Crafty 24.1 SSE42 x64            2647   12   12  2000    35.7%   2758   37.0%
	  
	  
 
 Move average                : 176.43 / 88.21
 White advantage             : 40.57  +/- 1.23
 Draw rate (equal opponents) : 48.68% +/- 0.26
 
 White Wins   :  17746 (34.5%)
 Black Wins   :  12734 (24.7%)
 Draws        :  21020 (40.8%)
 Unfinished   :      0

 White Perf.  :  54.9%
 Black Perf.  :  45.1%

 ECO A        =   8632 Games (16.8%)
 ECO B        =  12126 Games (23.5%)
 ECO C        =  11140 Games (21.6%)
 ECO D        =   9945 Games (19.3%)
 ECO E        =   9657 Games (18.8%)
 
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Re: FCP: Rating List after 82100 games (all games)

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 "FCP Rating List"
 Will be updated after ~ 1000 new games!
 ----------------------------------------

 Date             : May 24th, 2015 (12:00)
 Games            : 82100
 Version          : apg (all played games) 
 Hardware         : 2x Intel Core i7-4770K *4.3Ghz, 45-minutes games
 Engines          : All tested engines!
 
 Calculation      : Ordo 1.0, "Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32" with 2.825 Elo / News 057 & News 062
 Parameter        : Ordo_10.exe -a 2825 -A "Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32" -p 1.pgn -o rating.txt -W -s1000 -D -E -V
 Conditions       : http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conditions.htm
 


      Program                          Elo    +    -   Games   Score  Av.Op.  Draw
  01. Stockfish 26.04.15 BMI2 x64      3152   17   17  1700    82.9%   2847   30.8%
  02. Komodo 9 x64                     3149   17   17  1700    82.6%   2847   29.5%
  --. Stockfish 6 BMI2 x64             3135   16   16  1700    83.8%   2824   28.9%
  --. Stockfish 02.10.14 BMI2 x64 C    3106   19   19  1150    79.5%   2846   34.6%
  --. Komodo 8 x64                     3104   14   14  2100    79.8%   2837   32.7%
  --. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64      3104   15   15  2100    81.1%   2824   32.5%
  --. Stockfish 26.03.14 SSE42 x64     3084   20   20  1050    81.8%   2800   31.5%
  --. Komodo 7a x64                    3079   18   18  1250    79.6%   2817   31.9%
  --. Stockfish 5 SSE42 x64            3078   20   20  1000    79.6%   2819   35.4%
  --. Komodo TCECr x64                 3048   19   19  1050    78.5%   2802   33.0%
  03. Fire 4 x64                       3047   13   13  2350    74.3%   2835   35.1%
  04. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64           3038   12   12  2500    71.3%   2856   40.5%
  --. GullChess 2.8 Beta BMI2 x64      2989   18   18  1050    72.4%   2805   39.3%
  05. Equinox 3.30 x64                 2989   12   12  2300    67.8%   2841   42.3%
  06. Critter 1.6a x64                 2981   14   14  1600    67.7%   2841   44.3%
  --. Fire 3.0 AVX x64                 2953   12   12  2100    64.8%   2832   41.7%
  07. Sting SF 4.8.4 x64               2933   12   12  1950    59.9%   2857   45.5%
  08. Protector 1.7.0 x64              2910   12   12  1950    54.4%   2878   45.1%
  --. Critter 0.90 SSE4 x64            2900   11   11  2150    55.9%   2856   44.6%
  09. Hannibal 1.5 x64                 2898   12   12  1950    56.0%   2854   45.0%
  10. Texel 1.05 x64                   2897   12   12  2050    56.5%   2849   42.6%
  11. Chiron 2.0 x64                   2894    8    8  4050    59.5%   2822   39.9%
  12. Naum 4.6 x64                     2883   11   11  2300    57.2%   2830   42.8%
  --. Protector 1.6.0 x64              2882   14   14  1600    58.7%   2817   44.4%
  --. Hannibal 1.4b x64                2862    9    9  3550    56.6%   2813   42.8%
  --. Texel 1.04 x64                   2848   10   10  3000    55.8%   2807   41.1%
  --. Protector 1.5.0 JA x64           2847   16   16  1050    55.0%   2811   45.3%
  13. Nirvanachess 2.0a x64            2839   11   11  2350    51.9%   2829   44.2%
  14. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64             2831    8    8  4050    51.6%   2823   41.1%
  15. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32               2825    8    8  4050    50.9%   2823   42.7%
  16. Andscacs 0.72 POP x64            2813   11   11  2250    48.1%   2834   42.0%
  17. Sjeng c't 2010 w32               2798   11   11  2100    46.4%   2833   41.8%
  18. Shredder 12 x64                  2794   10   10  2900    42.6%   2859   40.5%
  --. Texel 1.03 x64                   2789   16   16  1050    47.1%   2814   41.9%
  19. Junior 13.3.00 x64               2784   10   10  3100    45.4%   2826   39.8%
  --. Junior 12.5.03 x64               2780   15   15  1400    42.2%   2847   38.4%
  --. Junior 13.8.04 Yokohama x64      2776   13   13  1700    42.6%   2841   40.5%
  20. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32             2774   10   10  2600    38.9%   2869   40.0%
  21. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64    2759   11   11  2350    41.9%   2831   42.6%
  22. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64            2756    8    8  4200    47.4%   2782   43.0%
  23. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64             2755   12   12  2150    36.6%   2869   36.7%
  24. Cheng4 0.38 x64                  2754   12   12  1700    43.8%   2809   41.6%
  25. Quazar 0.4 x64                   2752   10   10  2700    37.3%   2862   39.2%
  26. Spark 1.0 x64                    2751    8    8  4700    45.5%   2794   41.0%
  27. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64          2750    9    9  3550    41.8%   2821   37.3%
  28. Zappa Mexico II x64              2744   11   11  2250    35.0%   2874   39.1%
  --. SmarThink 1.60 x64               2741   16   16  1100    38.0%   2842   36.2%
  29. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64                  2740   12   12  1950    41.7%   2813   40.9%
  30. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64           2733   12   12  2100    38.2%   2834   41.0%
  31. Vajolet2 1.45 POP x64            2727    8    8  4500    43.5%   2785   41.1%
  --. Vajolet2 1.28 POP x64            2723   14   14  1500    35.5%   2846   38.1%
  --. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64        2721   10   10  3100    43.8%   2778   39.6%
  32. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64              2721    8    8  5050    42.0%   2791   37.0%
  33. Atlas 3.80 x64                   2718   13   13  1600    39.8%   2806   40.2%
  34. Arasan 17.5 POP x64              2716   15   15  1350    42.7%   2774   43.3%
  35. Tornado 5.0 SSE4 x64             2715   12   12  2300    42.9%   2777   37.0%
  --. Andscacs 0.70 POP x64            2702   16   16  1150    39.7%   2783   41.1%
  --. SmarThink 1.50 SSE3 x64          2699   17   17  1050    35.3%   2818   35.8%
  --. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64             2693   11   11  2500    41.4%   2767   38.4%
  36. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64       2687   14   14  1150    40.7%   2756   42.7%
  37. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64           2686   13   13  1600    38.8%   2770   42.8%
  --. Arasan 17.4 POP x64              2683   11   11  2400    43.7%   2734   41.4%
  --. Fizbo 1.2 x64                    2681   12   12  2100    41.8%   2751   39.0%
  --. Nirvanachess 1.6 x64             2676   16   16  1400    29.0%   2856   33.3%
  38. EXchess 7.51b x64                2676   13   13  1700    37.1%   2778   41.1%
  --. Cheng4 0.36c x64                 2674   11   11  2200    43.6%   2726   41.8%
  39. DisasterArea 1.54 x64            2671   13   13  1550    38.6%   2757   43.5%
  40. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64              2665   15   15  1200    38.3%   2753   44.3%
  --. Rodent 1.6 Build 6 POP x64       2657   14   14  1400    34.9%   2776   37.4%
  41. Crafty 24.1 SSE42 x64            2648   10   10  2600    40.0%   2726   36.7%
  --. EXchess 7.31b x64                2644   16   16  1100    45.0%   2688   39.0%
  42. Glaurung 2.2 JA x64              2635   16   16  1000    47.1%   2656   40.9%
  --. Crafty 24.0 SSE42 x64            2632   18   18  1050    27.3%   2822   33.3%
  --. Rodent 1.4 Build 2 POP x64       2631   17   17  1000    46.6%   2656   40.4%
  --. Atlas 3.70em x64                 2630   16   16  1050    44.6%   2675   38.7%
  43. OctoChess r5190 SSE4 x64         2626   17   17  1000    45.9%   2656   45.5%
  44. Rhetoric 1.4.1 x64               2600   13   13  2000    31.9%   2754   35.8%
  --. Andscacs 0.64 POP x64            2598   16   16  1000    41.9%   2658   39.8%
  45. Godel 3.4.9 x64                  2587   17   17  1000    40.4%   2658   39.3%
  46. Djinn 1.021 POP x64              2518   18   18  1000    31.2%   2662   36.6%
  47. ProDeo 1.87 w32                  2511   18   18  1000    30.4%   2662   31.3%	  
	  
 

 Move average                : 175.11 / 87.55
 White advantage             : 40.50  +/- 0.96
 Draw rate (equal opponents) : 48.18% +/- 0.20
 
 White Wins   :  28651 (34.9%)
 Black Wins   :  20817 (25.4%)
 Draws        :  32632 (39.7%)
 Unfinished   :      0

 White Perf.  :  54.8%
 Black Perf.  :  45.2%

 ECO A        =  14086 Games (17.2%)
 ECO B        =  19365 Games (23.6%)
 ECO C        =  17459 Games (21.3%)
 ECO D        =  16096 Games (19.6%)
 ECO E        =  15094 Games (18.4%)
 
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Re: FCP: Rating List after 51500 games, v2.07.s9 ... comment

Post by Graham Banks »

Frank Quisinsky wrote:After the Critter 1.6a x64 test run!

Now I added 4 older engines with:
1. Sjeng c't 2010 w32
2. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64
3. Nemo 1.01 Beta x64
4. Critter 1.6a x64
From an ICGA point of view, isn't Thinker under suspicion of being a clone?
If you include Thinker, you should probably look at including Rybka too. :wink:
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Re: Thinker and ICGA

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Graham,

from which engine Thinker should be a clone?
Thinker 5.4d Inert was available a long time before Igorit was available!

I can see nothing here in stats with Thinker!

The playing style of Thinker is complete an other as all other engines I have in my list. I can see nothing Graham! Thinker is a wonderful engine and I like the interview I made with Lance Perkins in the past (available on Arena webpages).

Thinker 5.4d are available 2009, Igorit 2010!!
At the time Thinker are available ... Thinker are a TOP-8 engine!

And to ICGA:
I not give a f.u.c.k of ICGA!
So many years our organisation do nothing around computer chess. OK, I like the decision to Rybka from ICGA but I dislike 100 other things in the past from ICGA.

For me ICGA isn't existing!
Sorry!

I believe ICGA have a Problem after Lance wrote a lot to Houdini, in the time Houdini 1 was available. Lance and others gave us Information that Houdini 1.0 is to 99% a Robbodini version and based on the sources Norman Schmidt created.

A while later I hear nothing from Lance.
I think we have enough honest programmers scares away and we should scares away this group of programmers which working with sources by others. Lance is the wrong person ... sorry!

Best
Frank
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Re: Thinker and ICGA

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No problem Frank. I was just teasing you. :P
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Re: Thinker and ICGA

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Graham,

you are a bad boy.
But I do the same with you ...

:-)

Enough chess for today.
Sittting now 8 hours on my Notebook with updates.
To complicated what I try to display on my older *.html site.

I think I should produced an other chaos.
Perhaps with my girlfriend, I don't know ...

Best
Frank