Which side do you prefer here?

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Which side do you prefer here?

White
5
83%
Black
0
No votes
Either sides seems desirable | Position is in balance
1
17%
 
Total votes: 6
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Nordlandia
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Which side do you prefer here?

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2r3k1/4npp1/7p/pB6/P4B2/1P6/5PPP/3K4 b - - 0 33
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[pgn][Event "Reykjavik op"]
[Site "1"]
[Date "1982.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Dimitri Gurevich"]
[Black "Elvar Gudmundsson"]
[ECO "D37"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "249"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Bf4 O-O 6.e3 c5 7.dxc5
Bxc5 8.cxd5 Nxd5 9.Nxd5 exd5 10.Bd3 Bb4+ 11.Ke2 Be7 12.Qc2 h6
13.Rhd1 Nc6 14.a3 Be6 15.Rd2 Rc8 16.Qa4 Bf6 17.Rad1 Qb6 18.Qb5
Qxb5 19.Bxb5 Na5 20.Nd4 Bxd4 21.Rxd4 a6 22.Bd3 Nc6 23.Ra4 d4
24.Bc4 Bf5 25.Bb3 a5 26.Rc4 Be6 27.exd4 Bxc4+ 28.Bxc4 Rfd8
29.d5 Ne7 30.b3 b5 31.Bxb5 Rxd5 32.a4 Rxd1 33.Kxd1 Nd5 34.Bd2
Nb4 35.Be3 Nd5 36.Bd2 Nb4 37.Be3 Kf8 38.Bb6 Ra8 39.Kd2 Ke7
40.Bc5+ Ke6 41.Kc3 Nd5+ 42.Kd4 Ne7 43.Bc4+ Kd7 44.Bxf7 Rf8
45.Bh5 Rxf2 46.Bg4+ Kc7 47.Bf3 Nc6+ 48.Kc4 Rb2 49.Kc3 Ra2
50.Bf8 Ne5 51.Bd5 Ng4 52.Bxg7 Ne3 53.Bf3 Nxg2 54.Bxh6 Rf2
55.Be4 Nh4 56.Be3 Rf7 57.Bd5 Rd7 58.Bf4+ Kb6 59.Be4 Rf7 60.Bg5
Nf3 61.Bd8+ Ka6 62.Bd3+ Ka7 63.Bxa5 Nxh2 64.Bb4 Rc7+ 65.Bc4
Nf3 66.Bd6 Rc6 67.Bf4 Rf6 68.Be3+ Kb7 69.b4 Ne5 70.Bd5+ Ka6
71.Be4 Nd7 72.Bd3+ Kb7 73.b5 Re6 74.Bd4 Nb6 75.a5 Nd5+ 76.Kc4
Nc7 77.Bf5 Nxb5 78.Kxb5 Re7 79.Bg4 Rf7 80.Bh3 Re7 81.Bg2+ Kb8
82.Bc5 Rg7 83.Be4 Rf7 84.Bg1 Rg7 85.Bf2 Re7 86.Bc6 Re6 87.Bd7
Re7 88.Bg4 Rg7 89.Bd1 Rf7 90.Bc5 Rd7 91.Bf3 Rf7 92.Be4 Rf4
93.Bd5 Rf5 94.Bc4 Rg5 95.Bd3 Rd5 96.Bc2 Rd2 97.Be4 Re2 98.Bf3
Rh2 99.Bg4 Rh4 100.Be2 Rh6 101.Bf2 Re6 102.Bc4 Rh6 103.Be3 Rh4
104.Ba2 Rh3 105.Bc5 Rh6 106.Bb1 Rh1 107.Bd3 Rd1 108.Bg6 Rd7
109.Kb6 Rb7+ 110.Ka6 Rd7 111.Be4 Rd1 112.Ba7+ Kc7 113.Bf2 Rd6+
114.Ka7 Rd7 115.a6 Rg7 116.Bb7 Rg6 117.Ba8 Rg7 118.Bb6+ Kc8
119.Bb7+ Kd7 120.Be3 Rg6 121.Bd4 Kc7 122.Be5+ Kd7 123.Be4 Rg5
124.Kb6 Rxe5 125.Bc6+ 1-0[/pgn]
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Graham Banks
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Re: Which side do you prefer here?

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Pretty sure that top engines would win this with white.
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Re: Which side do you prefer here?

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It looks roughly even with black to move. I think it is easier for the white side to play than for black.
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Sean Evans
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Re: Which side do you prefer here?

Post by Sean Evans »

Looks approximately equal to me! Anyone check on their favourite bot yet?
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Dann Corbit
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Re: Which side do you prefer here?

Post by Dann Corbit »

Stockfish:

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Searching: 2r3k1/4npp1/7p/pB6/P4B2/1P6/5PPP/3K4 b - - 0 1
infinite: 0 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0

 1   +1.08   00:00      31  g5 
 2   +0.27   00:00      96  Nd5 Be5 
 3   +0.32   00:00     313  Rc5 Be3 Rd5+ Kc2 
 4   +0.26   00:00     477  Rd8+ Kc2 Nd5 Bd2 Nb4+ Bxb4 axb4 
 5   +0.19   00:00     982  Nf5 Bd2 Nd6 Be2 Rc5 
 6   +0.16   00:00    1187  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Bxb4 axb4 a5 
 7   +0.44   00:00    1508  Nf5 Bd2 Rc5 b4 axb4 Bxb4 Rc8 
 8   +0.30   00:00    2082  Nf5 Bd2 Rc5 h3 Nd6 Bd3 Kf8 Ke2 
 9   +0.30   00:00    2696  Rc5 Bc4 Nf5 g3 g5 Bc1 Rc8 Bd2 Nd6 
10   +0.21   00:00    5280  Rc5 Bd2 Nf5 f4 f6 g4 Nd6 Be2 Kf7 b4 
11   +0.26   00:00    7572  Rc5 Bd2 Nf5 Bc4 g5 f4 Nd6 Bd3 f6 g4 Kg7 Ke2 
12   +0.32   00:00   37108  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 g3 Kf8 Be3 Nd5 Bd4 Rd8 Bc5+ Kg8 Kc2 Rb8 Bc4 
13   +0.29   00:00   43266  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Ke2 Ke7 Ke3 f6 Ke4 Kd6 Kf5 Nc6 Kg6 Ne5+ Kxg7 Nxc4 
14   +0.24   00:00   57117  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Ke2 Ke7 Ke3 f6 Ke4 Rc5 f4 Rc8 Kf5 Rd8 Be3 
15   +0.29   00:00   93634  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Be3 Ke7 Bb6 Ra8 Kd2 f6 Kc3 Nc6 Bc5+ Kd7 Bb5 Kc7 Be3 
16   +0.24   00:00  240485  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 Ke2 Kf7 Kf3 Nc6 Bb6 Rb8 Be3 Ne5+ Ke4 Ke6 f4 f5+ Kd4 Rd8+ Kc3 
17   +0.33   00:00  317937  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Be3 Ke7 Bb6 Ra8 Kd2 f6 Kc3 Nc6 Bc5+ Kd7 Bd5 Rb8 f3 Nb4 Be4 
18   +0.34   00:00  365742  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Be3 Ke7 Bb6 Ra8 Kd2 f6 Kc3 Nc6 Bb5 Kd6 f3 Rb8 Be3 Ne5 f4 Rc8+ Kd4 
19   +0.32   00:00  437104  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Be3 Ke7 Bb6 Ra8 Bc5+ Kf6 Bd4+ Kg6 Bc3 f6 Ke2 Kf5 Kf3 h5 g3 g5 Bf7 Rd8 Ke2 h4 g4+ Kxg4 
20   +0.25   00:00  540763  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Be3 Ke7 Bb6 Ra8 Bc5+ Kf6 Bd4+ Kg6 Bc3 f6 Ke2 Kf5 Kf3 h5 h3 Nc6 Bb5 Rd8 g4+ Kg5 Ke4 Nb4 gxh5 Kxh5 
21   +0.20   00:00  650154  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Be3 Ke7 Bb6 Ra8 Bc5+ Kf6 Bd4+ Kg6 Bc3 f6 Ke2 Kf5 Kf3 h5 h3 Rb8 g4+ Kg5 Kg3 Kg6 f4 hxg4 hxg4 
22   +0.24   00:01  893401  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 Be3 Ke7 Bb6 Ra8 Bc5+ Kf6 Bd4+ Kg6 Bc3 f6 Ke2 h5 Kf3 Kf5 h3 h4 g4+ hxg3 fxg3 Nc6 g4+ Kg6 Bd3+ Kf7 Bb5 Ne5+ Ke4 
23   +0.22   00:03   2914K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 h4 Kf8 Bc4 Ke7 Ke2 f6 Ke3 Rd8 g4 Rd6 Ke2 Nc6 Bc3 Rd7 Ke3 Rd1 g5 hxg5 hxg5 fxg5 Bxg7 
24   +0.18   00:05   4335K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 h4 Ke7 Ke2 f6 Ke3 Rd8 g4 Rd6 Ke2 Kd7 f4 Kc6 Bc3 Kc5 Kf3 Rd1 Ke4 Rc1 Bd4+ Kc6 Bb5+ Kc7 g5 hxg5 hxg5 
25   +0.19   00:07   5437K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 h4 Ke7 Ke2 f6 Ke3 Rd8 g3 Rd6 Ke2 Rd7 Be3 Rd8 Bb6 Ra8 Ke3 Kd6 Ke4 Kc6 Be3 Rd8 Kf5 Nc2 Bb5+ Kb7 
26   +0.24   00:08   6316K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 h4 Ke7 Ke2 f6 Ke3 Rd8 g3 Rd6 Ke2 Rd7 Be3 Rd8 Kf3 Kd7 Bb6 Ra8 Ke4 Nc6 Be3 Kd6 Bd2 Ne5 Bd5 f5+ Kd4 Nc6+ Kc4 
27   +0.24   00:09   6968K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 h4 Ke7 Ke2 f6 Ke3 Rd8 g4 Rd6 Ke2 Rd7 Ke3 Rd8 h5 Rd6 Ke2 Kd7 f4 Kc6 Bc3 Kc7 Kf3 Rd1 Ke4 Rg1 
28   +0.24   00:13   9942K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 h4 f6 Ke2 Nc6 Ke3 Ke7 Bd5 Nb4 Bc4 Rd8 g4 Rd6 Ke2 Rd7 Ke3 Rd8 h5 Rd6 Ke2 Rd7 Be3 Rd8 Kf3 Nd3 Ke4 Ne5 
29   +0.23   00:15  11761K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Bc4 Kf8 h4 f6 Ke2 Nc6 Ke3 Ke7 Bd5 Nb4 Bc4 Rd8 g4 Rd6 Ke2 Kd7 Bb5+ Kd8 Bc3 Ke7 f4 Rd8 Bc4 Nc6 Ke1 Kd6 Kf2 Kc5 g5 fxg5 
30   +0.17   01:13  56361K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 Bb6 Ra8 f4 Kh7 Bc4 g5 Ke2 Kg6 Kf3 f5 h3 Nc6 Bb5 Rb8 Bc5 Nb4 Bc4 Rb7 g3 Nc2 g4 Nb4 Be3 gxf4 Kxf4 fxg4 Kxg4 h5+ Kf3 
31   +0.24   01:34  72432K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 g5 Bb6 Ra8 Ke2 Kg7 fxg5 hxg5 Kf3 Nd5 Bd4 Rh8 Bc4 Nb4 h3 Kg6 Bc3 Rb8 g3 Rh8 Bxb4 axb4 a5 Kf5 a6 Ke5 Kg4 Ra8 
32   +0.24   01:52  85981K  Nd5 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 g5 Bb6 Ra8 Ke2 Kg7 fxg5 hxg5 Kf3 Nd5 Bd4 Rh8 Bc4 Nb4 h3 Kg6 Bc3 Rb8 g3 Rh8 Bxb4 axb4 a5 Kf5 a6 Ke5 Kg4 Ra8 h4 gxh4 gxh4 Kd4 
33   +0.21   02:50 130487K  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 g5 Bb6 Ra8 Ke2 Kg7 Bc4 Nc6 g3 Rb8 Be3 Kg6 Bb5 gxf4 gxf4 Ne7 Bd2 Nf5 Bc3 Nd6 Bd3+ Kf7 Bc2 Rc8 Kd2 Ra8 b4 axb4 Bxb4 Ke6 
34   +0.19   03:28 159632K  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 f5 Bb6 Ra8 Bc5 Kf7 Bc4+ Kg6 Ke2 Nc6 Bb5 Nd8 Bc4 Rc8 Bb6 Nc6 Bb5 Rb8 Be3 Nb4 Bd4 Nc2 Be5 Rd8 Bc4 Nd4+ Ke3 Nc6 Bc3 Rd1 g3 Rc1 Kd3 
35   +0.17   04:14 195942K  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 f5 Bb6 Ra8 Bc4+ Kf8 Bc5+ Ke8 Bb5+ Kf7 Bc4+ Kg6 Ke2 Nc6 Bb5 Nd8 Bc4 Rc8 Bb6 Nc6 Bb5 Rb8 Be3 Nb4 Bd4 Nc2 Be5 Rd8 Bc4 Nd4+ Ke3 Nc6 Bc3 Rd1 g3 Nb4 Bxb4 axb4 
36   +0.17   04:54 227743K  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 f5 Bb6 Ra8 Bc4+ Kf8 Bc5+ Ke8 Bb5+ Kf7 Bc4+ Kg6 Ke2 Nc6 Bb5 Nd8 Bc4 Rc8 Bb6 Nc6 Bb5 Rb8 Be3 Nb4 Bd4 Nc2 Be5 Rd8 Bc4 Nd4+ Ke3 Nc6 Bc3 Rd1 Bb5 Nb4 Kf3 Rc1 Be8+ Kh7 
37   +0.24   11:08 520521K  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 f5 Bb6 Ra8 Bc4+ Kf8 Bc5+ Ke8 Bb5+ Kd8 Bf8 Ra7 Bc5 Rb7 Bd4 g6 Bf6+ Kc8 g3 Rb6 Bg7 h5 Be5 Re6 Bc4 Re7 Bd6 Re8 Be5 Rf8 Ke2 Nc6 Bc3 Kc7 Bb5 Rb8 Kd3 Kd6 
38   +0.24   11:43 548570K  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 f5 Bb6 Ra8 Bc4+ Kf8 Bc5+ Ke8 Bb5+ Kd8 Bf8 Ra7 Bc5 Rb7 Bd4 g6 Bf6+ Kc8 Bd4 Re7 Bc5 Re6 Bc4 Rc6 Be7 Kc7 g3 Rb6 Kd2 Kd7 Bf8 Rb8 Bg7 h5 Be5 Rc8 Bd4 Kd6 Be5+ Ke7 Ke2 Nc6 
39   +0.24   12:32 584659K  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 f4 f5 Bb6 Ra8 Bc4+ Kf8 Bc5+ Ke8 Bb5+ Kd8 Bf8 Ra7 Bc5 Rb7 Bd4 g6 Bf6+ Kc8 Bd4 Re7 Bc5 Re6 Bc4 Rc6 Be7 Kc7 g3 Rb6 Kd2 Kd7 Bf8 Rb8 Bg7 h5 Be5 Rc8 Bd4 Kd6 Bc3 Ke7 Ke3 
40   +0.25   22:26   1057M  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 Bb6 Ra8 f4 g6 Bc4+ Kf8 Kd2 Ke7 Bc5+ Kd7 Kc3 Nc6 h4 f5 g3 Rc8 Kd2 Nd8 Bb6 Ra8 Kc3 Kd6 b4 axb4+ Kxb4 Nc6+ Kb5 Na7+ Kb4 Rb8 a5 Nc8 Kb5 Nxb6 axb6 Re8 Bf7 Re3 b7 Kc7 Bxg6 Kxb7 Bxf5 Rxg3 
41   +0.23   24:07   1135M  Nc6 Bd2 Nb4 Be3 f6 Bb6 Ra8 f4 g6 Bc4+ Kf8 Kd2 Ke7 Bc5+ Kd7 Kc3 Nc6 h4 f5 g3 Re8 Kd2 Rb8 Kd3 Rc8 Ke3 Rd8 Ke2 Ra8 Ke3 Rc8 Bb5 Re8+ Kf2 Ra8 Ke3 Kc7 Bc4 Rb8 Ke2 Rd8 Bf7 Nd4+ Bxd4 Rxd4 Bxg6 Rb4
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