Much too difficult

[Henk]

In this position I was thinking about half an hour during a real game. I could not decide what to play. Actually I almost wanted to resign because I could not make a decision.


[d] r2q3r/2p1nkb1/p3bp1p/1pB1p1p1/3nP3/2N2NQ1/PPP2PPP/R3RBK1 b - - 1 17

[S.Taylor]

First thought is night takes night followed by k-side pawn thrust, and queen to g8 perhaps, and Rd8 perhaps. And there might develope a king side attack.
Don't play Nxc2.

[Henk]

Of course I played Nc2: Fortunately my opponent did not free his queen quickly so I was still able to win. [He did not play Ne1 after the exchange but Be2 ? Although after Ne1 Rd2 apparently does not look good as well]

Perhaps chess is too difficult for me in long time control games.

[Henk]

Winning for white for there is a Nd5

[d] 7r/2p1nkb1/p3bp1p/1pB1p1p1/4P3/2N1Q3/PP1r1PPP/n3NBK1 b - - 3 21

[S.Taylor]

Of course I played Nc2: Fortunately my opponent did not free his queen quickly so I was still able to win. [He did not play Ne1 after the exchange but Be2 ? Although after Ne1 Rd2 apparently does not look good as well]

I don't understand. Obviously, a simple reply to N:c2 would be Re1d1 before anything else.

[Henk]

Of course I played Nc2: Fortunately my opponent did not free his queen quickly so I was still able to win. [He did not play Ne1 after the exchange but Be2 ? Although after Ne1 Rd2 apparently does not look good as well]

I don't understand. Obviously, a simple reply to N:c2 would be Re1d1 before anything else.

I meant Rd1, Na1, Rd8, Rad8, Ne1, Rd2, Qe3

[whereagles]

Position is very messed up, with both black and white pieces cramped up.. this really is the sort of situation you have to sit down and think for 15+ mins, especially since Nxc2 is on the air.

[Henk]

I should not have allowed Bc5 earlier in the game. Maybe I should include the whole game when I have time. Actually I forgot Bc5 for it was not possible even earlier.

[yurikvelo]

If it is too messed up - simplify

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]

[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r2q3r/2p1nkb1/p3bp1p/1pB1p1p1/3nP3/2N2NQ1/PPP2PPP/R3RBK1 b - - 1 17"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "2"]

17. ... Nxf3+ (17. .. Nxc2 18. Red1 Nxa1 19. Rxd8 Rhxd8 20. Ne1 Nc6 21. Qe3
Nd4 22. Qc1 Ndb3 23. axb3 Nxb3 24. Qe3 c6 25. Be2 Kg8 26. Bb6 Rd7 27. Nd3
Bf8 28. Bd1 a5 29. h3 Nd4 30. Ne2 Rb8 31. Bxd4 exd4 32. Qf3 Bc4 33. e5 Rf7
34. e6 Bxe6 35. Nxd4 Bc4 36. Nxc6 Rb6 37. Nxa5 Rc7 38. Ne1 Bf7 39. Bb3 Rd6
40. Nd3 Kg7 41. Bxf7 Rxf7 42. Nb3 Be7 43. Nbc5 Kg8 44. Qf5 Bf8 45. Nb3 Kh8
46. Qxb5 Rfd7 47. Nbc5 Re7 48. b4 Kg7 49. Qb8 h5 50. b5 Rf7 51. Qe8 Re7 52.
Qxh5 Rc7 53. f4 gxf4 54. Qe2 f3 55. Qxf3 Re7 56. Ne4 Rb6 57. Qg4+ Kf7 58.
Qh5+ Kg8 59. Nf4 f5 60. Nd5 fxe4 61. Nxb6 Bg7 62. Nd5 Bd4+ 63. Kh2 Rf7 64.
Qg6+ Kf8 65. Qxe4 Bc5 66. Qe5 Rb7 67. Qh8+ Kf7 68. Qh7+ Ke6 69. Nf4+ Kf6
70. Qxb7 Bf2 71. Qe4 Bc5 72. Qc6+ Kf7 73. Qxc5 Kf6 74. Qd6+ Kf7 75. Qc7+
Kf6 76. g4 Kg5 77. Qf7 Kh6 78. Qg6#) 18. Qxf3 1-0

[/pgn]

D=29/45, 2 443 MN
+0,66 17. ... Nxf3+ 18.Qxf3 h5 19.Qe3 c6 20.a4 Ng6
+0,89 17. ... Nec6 18.Rad1 h5 19.Nxd4 Nxd4 20.Qe3 Bh6
+0,95 17. ... Bf8 18.Nxd4 exd4 19.Nd5 Nxd5 20.exd5 Qxd5
+1,12 17. ... Ndc6 18.a4 b4 19.Rad1 Qc8 20.Nd5 Bf8
+1,15 17. ... h5 18.Nxd4 exd4 19.Ne2 h4 20.Qd3 Nc6

17. ... Nxf3+ 18. Qxf3
D=26/39, 410 MN
+0,69 18. ... h5 19.Red1 Qc8 20.Bxe7 Bg4 21.Qd3 Bxd1
+0,69 18. ... g4 19.Qe3 c6 20.f4 exf4 21.Qxf4 Ng6
+0,72 18. ... c6 19.Ne2 h5 20.a4 h4 21.Red1 Qc8
+0,80 18. ... Bf8 19.a4 c6 20.Red1 Qc8 21.Ne2 Ng6
+0,81 18. ... Qc8 19.Bxe7 g4 20.Qg3 Kxe7 21.f4 h5