FCP: Komodo 10.2 x64 C15 is still running vs. 49 opp.

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FCP: Komodo 10.2 x64 C15 is still running vs. 49 opp.

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Hi there,

as next one Komodo 10.2 x64 C15 is still running vs. 49 opp.

If you like to follow:
http://www.amateurschach.de/ftptrigger/ ... 4-c15.html

I am using the settings Larry gave me in the Komodo 10.2 release thread here in TalkChess.

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[ENGINE]
Name=Komodo 10.2 x64 C15
Author=Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman, Mark Lefler
Filename=C:\Chess\Shredder_12\Engines\Komodo\Komodo_102-x64.exe
[OPTIONS]
Table Memory=256
Book File=<empty>
SyzygyPath=c:\Chess\_syzygybases
Contempt=15
Good luck to the Komodo team!

Best
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Re: FCP: Komodo 10.2 x64 C15 is still running vs. 49 opp.

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Hi there,

I think a good start after 250 games.
3x lost ... 2x vs. SF and 1x vs. Fizbo ... for second the first won game vs. SF.

Move average with Contempt = 15 OK ... 80 at the moment!
Many fast and nice won games I saw ...

Yes, Fizbo is very very danger with the very spekulative aggressive style. Komodo programmers should look in the games vs. Fizbo later.

All is OK after the first games ... Elo will go high.
I await around 87.5%.

Best Komodo version (10.0) in my list have 86.1%

Enough for the moment!
But my feeling is ... best Komodo version and around 3.215 is possible.

Best
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Re: After round 13/50 (26%) = 3192.91 Elo, -3.07 (Nr.02)

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  FCP Rating List (during a LIVE Test-Run)
  ----------------------------------------

  Date           : November 02nd, 2016 (10:45)
  Games          : 59.437
  Version        : 4.40 Beta 1
  Conditions     : http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conditions.htm

  Generated with : Ordo 1.2.6 x64 (Ratings for chess and other games)
  https://sites.google.com/site/gaviotachessengine/ordo
  by Miguel A. Ballicora (Argentina)


  **************************************************
  Still running after round  13/50    =  26%
  Komodo 10.2 x64                     =  - 3.070 Elo


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3192.91    637    85.9   466   162     9   547.0   25.4  28.22  2845.94  10.59   49.0
   2 Komodo 10 x64                    :  3195.98   2450    86.1  1802   614    34  2109.0   25.1  14.47  2845.45  10.49   49.0
  ****************************************************************************************************************************


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 SF 18Sep2016 BMI2 x64 C10        :  3218.20   2413    88.0  1841   565     7  2123.5   23.4  15.29  2840.09  10.58   48.6
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3192.91    637    85.9   466   162     9   547.0   25.4  28.22  2845.94  10.59   49.0
   3 Houdini 4 STD B x64              :  3088.08   2413    78.2  1507   760   146  1887.0   31.5  12.50  2842.79  10.64   48.6
   4 Fire 4 x64                       :  3035.31   2413    73.0  1297   931   185  1762.5   38.6  11.45  2843.88  10.66   48.6
   5 GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64           :  3029.93   2413    72.5  1259   980   174  1749.0   40.6  11.33  2844.00  10.67   48.6
   6 Andscacs 0.872 BMI2 x64          :  3002.38   2413    69.5  1173  1008   232  1677.0   41.8  11.70  2844.57  10.66   48.6
   7 Equinox 3.30 x64                 :  2996.06   2413    68.8  1115  1090   208  1660.0   45.2  11.25  2844.70  10.67   48.6
   8 Fizbo 1.8 BMI2 x64               :  2992.23   2413    68.4  1137  1025   251  1649.5   42.5  10.80  2844.78  10.68   48.6
   9 Critter 1.6a x64                 :  2980.59   2413    67.0  1091  1053   269  1617.5   43.6  10.78  2845.02  10.68   48.6
  10 Fritz 15 x64                     :  2980.10   2413    67.0  1083  1066   264  1616.0   44.2  10.73  2845.03  10.68   48.6
  11 Nirvanachess 2.3 POP x64         :  2961.71   2413    64.8   980  1168   265  1564.0   48.4  10.32  2845.41  10.69   48.6
  12 Hannibal 1.7 x64                 :  2958.09   2413    64.4  1016  1075   322  1553.5   44.6  10.41  2845.48  10.68   48.6
  13 Chiron 3 x64                     :  2948.43   2413    63.2   964  1123   326  1525.5   46.5   9.92  2845.68  10.69   48.6
  14 Protector 1.9.0 x64              :  2932.87   2413    61.3   918  1123   372  1479.5   46.5  10.31  2846.01  10.69   48.6
  15 Texel 1.06 x64                   :  2931.18   2413    61.1   943  1063   407  1474.5   44.1  10.28  2846.04  10.69   48.6
  16 iCE 3.0 v658 POP x64             :  2921.87   2413    59.9   915  1063   435  1446.5   44.1  10.51  2846.23  10.68   48.6
  17 Booot 6.0.2 POP x64              :  2902.30   2413    57.5   798  1178   437  1387.0   48.8  10.43  2846.64  10.68   48.6
  18 Naum 4.6 x64                     :  2885.00   2413    55.3   759  1149   505  1333.5   47.6  10.09  2847.00  10.69   48.6
  19 SmarThink 1.96 SSE4 x64          :  2883.54   2413    55.1   834   990   589  1329.0   41.0  10.37  2847.03  10.69   48.6
  20 Hakkapeliitta TCEC v2 x64        :  2880.02   2413    54.6   801  1034   578  1318.0   42.9  10.28  2847.10  10.69   48.6
  21 Vajolet2 2.2 POP x64             :  2837.65   2413    49.1   637  1096   680  1185.0   45.4  10.04  2847.98  10.69   48.6
  22 Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64             :  2832.90   2413    48.5   624  1092   697  1170.0   45.3  10.41  2848.08  10.68   48.6
  23 Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32               :  2824.17   2413    47.3   611  1063   739  1142.5   44.1   9.86  2848.26  10.70   48.6
  24 Pedone 1.4.1 BMI2 x64            :  2816.08   2413    46.3   522  1190   701  1117.0   49.3  10.48  2848.43  10.68   48.6
  25 Cheng 4.39 x64                   :  2804.92   2413    44.8   544  1076   793  1082.0   44.6   9.97  2848.66  10.69   48.6
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  26 Sjeng c't 2010 w32               :  2804.62   2413    44.8   567  1028   818  1081.0   42.6   9.90  2848.66  10.70   48.6
  27 Arasan 19.1 POP x64              :  2800.94   2413    44.3   535  1069   809  1069.5   44.3   9.58  2848.74  10.70   48.6
  28 Shredder 12 x64                  :  2798.71   2413    44.0   508  1109   796  1062.5   46.0  10.20  2848.79  10.69   48.6
  29 Junior 13.3.00 x64               :  2794.07   2413    43.4   536  1024   853  1048.0   42.4  10.12  2848.88  10.69   48.6
  30 Nemorino 1.02 POP x64            :  2793.10   2413    43.3   494  1102   817  1045.0   45.7  10.28  2848.90  10.69   48.6
  31 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32             :  2785.25   2413    42.3   495  1051   867  1020.5   43.6  10.32  2849.07  10.69   48.6
  32 Wasp 1.25 BMI2 x64               :  2785.07   2413    42.3   465  1110   838  1020.0   46.0  10.04  2849.07  10.69   48.6
  33 Quazar 0.4 x64                   :  2774.56   2413    40.9   466  1043   904   987.5   43.2  10.10  2849.29  10.69   48.6
  34 Rodent II 0.9.64 x64             :  2773.27   2413    40.8   460  1047   906   983.5   43.4  10.42  2849.31  10.68   48.6
  35 DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64             :  2772.78   2413    40.7   497   970   946   982.0   40.2   9.97  2849.32  10.69   48.6
  36 Bobcat 7.6 x64                   :  2767.09   2413    40.0   424  1081   908   964.5   44.8  10.05  2849.44  10.69   48.6
  37 Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64    :  2762.99   2413    39.5   411  1082   920   952.0   44.8  10.49  2849.53  10.68   48.6
  38 Zappa Mexico II x64              :  2755.27   2413    38.5   382  1093   938   928.5   45.3  10.05  2849.69  10.69   48.6
  39 Spark 1.0 x64                    :  2754.95   2413    38.4   421  1013   979   927.5   42.0  10.57  2849.69  10.68   48.6
  40 TogaII 280513 Intel w32          :  2739.65   2413    36.5   392   979  1042   881.5   40.6  10.42  2850.01  10.68   48.6
  41 Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64              :  2737.29   2413    36.2   413   923  1077   874.5   38.3  10.85  2850.06  10.68   48.6
  42 Dirty 03NOV2015 POP x64          :  2729.05   2413    35.2   360   980  1073   850.0   40.6  10.81  2850.23  10.68   48.6
  43 Crafty 25.0.1 JA POP x64         :  2728.17   2413    35.1   365   965  1083   847.5   40.0  10.63  2850.25  10.68   48.6
  44 EXchess 7.92b x64                :  2727.48   2413    35.0   323  1045  1045   845.5   43.3  10.43  2850.26  10.68   48.6
  45 Laser 1.2 POP x64                :  2717.88   2413    33.9   334   967  1112   817.5   40.1  10.33  2850.46  10.69   48.6
  46 Atlas 3.80 x64                   :  2715.98   2413    33.7   333   958  1122   812.0   39.7  10.66  2850.50  10.68   48.6
  47 DisasterArea 1.65 POP x64        :  2715.63   2413    33.6   299  1024  1090   811.0   42.4  10.84  2850.51  10.68   48.6
  48 Murka 3 x64                      :  2710.25   2413    33.0   283  1025  1105   795.5   42.5  10.71  2850.62  10.68   48.6
  49 Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64           :  2702.48   2413    32.1   298   951  1164   773.5   39.4  10.66  2850.78  10.68   48.6
  50 Octochess r5506 DC x64           :  2660.89   2413    27.4   219   882  1312   660.0   36.6  10.79  2851.64  10.68   48.6
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  White advantage = 33.46 +/- 1.10
  Draw rate (equal opponents) = 51.78 % +/- 0.24
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Re: No explanation!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hm ...
If I am looking on other rating systems ...

Here is all fully OK, I too and my systems too!
No explanation.

But maybe after three years optimations my opening book is the reason for it. Only very equal lines are in my book, optimized again and again in test-runs by 50 engines.

- or Komodo is only stronger with faster time controls, others are using?
- or I am to old for all this?
- or more optimated for AMD processors?
- or not enough games at the moment ...
- testing method with many weaker opponents (Komodo view) in my group of engines?

I think not enough games at the moment and I am to old for all this.

Same opinion all the time.
The endgame from Komodo is a bit stronger as the endgame from SF. But in the game phases before Stockfish have the advantage.

Move average = 81 ... the same as Komodo 10 or Komodo 10.1 with standard setting Contempt = 10.

We have to wait of the final results.

But for the moment ...
Strongest Komodo version here is 10.0!
Not 10.1 and not 10.2!

Best
Frank

To test engines can be very hard!
My list is very strong I think but not perfect for such strong engines Komodo is.
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Re: No explanation!

Post by APassionForCriminalJustic »

Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hm ...
If I am looking on other rating systems ...

Here is all fully OK, I too and my systems too!
No explanation.

But maybe after three years optimations my opening book is the reason for it. Only very equal lines are in my book, optimized again and again in test-runs by 50 engines.

- or Komodo is only stronger with faster time controls, others are using?
- or I am to old for all this?
- or more optimated for AMD processors?
- or not enough games at the moment ...
- testing method with many weaker opponents (Komodo view) in my group of engines?

I think not enough games at the moment and I am to old for all this.

Same opinion all the time.
The endgame from Komodo is a bit stronger as the endgame from SF. But in the game phases before Stockfish have the advantage.

Move average = 81 ... the same as Komodo 10 or Komodo 10.1 with standard setting Contempt = 10.

We have to wait of the final results.

But for the moment ...
Strongest Komodo version here is 10.0!
Not 10.1 and not 10.2!

Best
Frank

To test engines can be very hard!
My list is very strong I think but not perfect for such strong engines Komodo is.
You need Stockfish 8 in that list!
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Re: After round 32/50 (64%) = 3203.33 Elo, +7.35 (Nr.02)

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Komodo 10 is in my list around 9.5 Elo better as Komodo 10.1.
Improvements now = 16-17 Elo from 10.1 to 10.2!

Looks better now after 64%!

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  FCP Rating List (during a LIVE Test-Run)
  ----------------------------------------

  Date           : November 04th, 2016 (09:45)
  Games          : 60.368
  Version        : 4.40 Beta 2
  Conditions     : http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conditions.htm

  Generated with : Ordo 1.2.6 x64 (Ratings for chess and other games)
  https://sites.google.com/site/gaviotachessengine/ordo
  by Miguel A. Ballicora (Argentina)


  **************************************************
  Still running after round  32/50     =  64%
  Komodo 10.2 x64                      =  + 7.35 Elo


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3203.33   1568    86.5  1159   395    14  1356.5   25.2  18.04  2846.12  10.56   49.0
   2 Komodo 10 x64                    :  3195.98   2450    86.1  1802   614    34  2109.0   25.1  14.47  2845.45  10.49   49.0
  ****************************************************************************************************************************


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 SF 18Sep2016 BMI2 x64 C10        :  3217.49   2432    87.7  1843   578    11  2132.0   23.8  15.58  2843.19  10.56   48.9
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3203.33   1568    86.5  1159   395    14  1356.5   25.2  18.04  2846.12  10.56   49.0
   3 Houdini 4 STD B x64              :  3087.67   2432    77.8  1508   768   156  1892.0   31.6  11.85  2845.86  10.63   48.9
   4 Fire 4 x64                       :  3035.81   2432    72.7  1297   943   192  1768.5   38.8  11.54  2846.93  10.64   48.9
   5 GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64           :  3030.50   2432    72.2  1259   992   181  1755.0   40.8  11.09  2847.03  10.65   48.9
   6 Andscacs 0.872 BMI2 x64          :  3002.01   2432    69.1  1173  1014   245  1680.0   41.7  10.98  2847.62  10.65   48.9
   7 Equinox 3.30 x64                 :  2996.49   2432    68.5  1116  1098   218  1665.0   45.1  10.84  2847.73  10.65   48.9
   8 Fizbo 1.8 BMI2 x64               :  2992.30   2432    68.0  1137  1033   262  1653.5   42.5  10.90  2847.82  10.65   48.9
   9 Critter 1.6a x64                 :  2980.94   2432    66.7  1091  1062   279  1622.0   43.7  10.80  2848.05  10.65   48.9
  10 Fritz 15 x64                     :  2979.90   2432    66.6  1083  1072   277  1619.0   44.1  10.67  2848.07  10.66   48.9
  11 Nirvanachess 2.3 POP x64         :  2962.18   2432    64.5   980  1177   275  1568.5   48.4  10.91  2848.44  10.65   48.9
  12 Hannibal 1.7 x64                 :  2957.86   2432    64.0  1016  1080   336  1556.0   44.4  10.41  2848.53  10.66   48.9
  13 Chiron 3 x64                     :  2948.29   2432    62.8   964  1128   340  1528.0   46.4  10.97  2848.72  10.65   48.9
  14 Protector 1.9.0 x64              :  2933.13   2432    61.0   919  1128   385  1483.0   46.4  10.38  2849.04  10.66   48.9
  15 Texel 1.06 x64                   :  2931.30   2432    60.8   943  1069   420  1477.5   44.0  10.36  2849.07  10.66   48.9
  16 iCE 3.0 v658 POP x64             :  2922.51   2432    59.7   915  1072   445  1451.0   44.1  10.07  2849.25  10.67   48.9
  17 Booot 6.0.2 POP x64              :  2901.92   2432    57.1   798  1180   454  1388.0   48.5  10.22  2849.68  10.67   48.9
  18 Naum 4.6 x64                     :  2885.00   2432    54.9   759  1153   520  1335.5   47.4  10.57  2850.03  10.66   48.9
  19 SmarThink 1.96 SSE4 x64          :  2883.72   2432    54.7   834   995   603  1331.5   40.9  10.26  2850.05  10.66   48.9
  20 Hakkapeliitta TCEC v2 x64        :  2880.04   2432    54.3   801  1038   593  1320.0   42.7  10.12  2850.13  10.67   48.9
  21 Vajolet2 2.2 POP x64             :  2838.63   2432    48.9   637  1105   690  1189.5   45.4  10.33  2850.98  10.66   48.9
  22 Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64             :  2833.73   2432    48.3   624  1100   708  1174.0   45.2   9.79  2851.08  10.67   48.9
  23 Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32               :  2824.24   2432    47.0   611  1066   755  1144.0   43.8  10.12  2851.27  10.67   48.9
  24 Pedone 1.4.1 BMI2 x64            :  2816.01   2432    46.0   522  1192   718  1118.0   49.0   9.90  2851.44  10.67   48.9
  25 Cheng 4.39 x64                   :  2804.90   2432    44.5   544  1078   810  1083.0   44.3   9.89  2851.67  10.67   48.9
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  26 Sjeng c't 2010 w32               :  2804.58   2432    44.5   567  1030   835  1082.0   42.4  10.11  2851.68  10.67   48.9
  27 Arasan 19.1 POP x64              :  2801.24   2432    44.1   535  1073   824  1071.5   44.1   9.81  2851.75  10.67   48.9
  28 Shredder 12 x64                  :  2799.17   2432    43.8   508  1114   810  1065.0   45.8  10.41  2851.79  10.66   48.9
  29 Junior 13.3.00 x64               :  2794.38   2432    43.2   536  1028   868  1050.0   42.3  10.53  2851.89  10.66   48.9
  30 Nemorino 1.02 POP x64            :  2793.58   2432    43.1   494  1107   831  1047.5   45.5  10.46  2851.91  10.66   48.9
  31 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32             :  2785.92   2432    42.1   495  1057   880  1023.5   43.5  10.20  2852.06  10.67   48.9
  32 Wasp 1.25 BMI2 x64               :  2784.93   2432    42.0   465  1111   856  1020.5   45.7  10.06  2852.08  10.67   48.9
  33 Quazar 0.4 x64                   :  2774.94   2432    40.7   466  1047   919   989.5   43.1  10.18  2852.29  10.67   48.9
  34 Rodent II 0.9.64 x64             :  2773.48   2432    40.5   460  1050   922   985.0   43.2  10.40  2852.32  10.66   48.9
  35 DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64             :  2772.83   2432    40.4   497   972   963   983.0   40.0  10.04  2852.33  10.67   48.9
  36 Bobcat 7.6 x64                   :  2767.48   2432    39.7   424  1085   923   966.5   44.6   9.92  2852.44  10.67   48.9
  37 Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64    :  2763.57   2432    39.2   411  1087   934   954.5   44.7  10.21  2852.52  10.67   48.9
  38 Zappa Mexico II x64              :  2755.86   2432    38.3   382  1098   952   931.0   45.1  10.21  2852.68  10.67   48.9
  39 Spark 1.0 x64                    :  2754.88   2432    38.2   421  1014   997   928.0   41.7  10.32  2852.70  10.66   48.9
  40 TogaII 280513 Intel w32          :  2739.61   2432    36.3   392   980  1060   882.0   40.3  10.52  2853.01  10.66   48.9
  41 Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64              :  2737.43   2432    36.0   413   925  1094   875.5   38.0  10.52  2853.06  10.66   48.9
  42 Dirty 03NOV2015 POP x64          :  2729.53   2432    35.0   360   984  1088   852.0   40.5  10.32  2853.22  10.66   48.9
  43 Crafty 25.0.1 JA POP x64         :  2728.15   2432    34.9   365   966  1101   848.0   39.7  10.14  2853.25  10.67   48.9
  44 EXchess 7.92b x64                :  2727.30   2432    34.8   323  1045  1064   845.5   43.0  10.21  2853.27  10.67   48.9
  45 Laser 1.2 POP x64                :  2718.06   2432    33.7   334   969  1129   818.5   39.8  10.09  2853.46  10.67   48.9
  46 Atlas 3.80 x64                   :  2716.33   2432    33.4   333   961  1138   813.5   39.5  10.66  2853.49  10.66   48.9
  47 DisasterArea 1.65 POP x64        :  2715.81   2432    33.4   299  1026  1107   812.0   42.2  10.96  2853.50  10.65   48.9
  48 Murka 3 x64                      :  2710.78   2432    32.8   283  1029  1120   797.5   42.3  10.96  2853.61  10.65   48.9
  49 Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64           :  2702.51   2432    31.8   298   952  1182   774.0   39.1  10.40  2853.78  10.66   48.9
  50 Octochess r5506 DC x64           :  2661.17   2432    27.2   219   884  1329   661.0   36.3  11.24  2854.63  10.64   48.9
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  White advantage = 33.56 +/- 1.06
  Draw rate (equal opponents) = 51.85 % +/- 0.24
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Re: No explanation!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Adam,

thinking a longer time ...
I have Stockfish 18Sep2016 BMI2 x64 with and without Contempt (compiles from ii u. ll) in my list. It seems that the release of Stockfish 8 is 10 Elo better as the version I have in my list. No reason to test Stockfish 8 from my view!!

Version number 8 or a fast compile from a dev. Version from the site I am using: http://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html

That is around the same!

NOTE:
Have a look on the site ...
From ii u. ll is now also a Stockfish 8 version available!

I will see ASM Fish 17Oct2016 BMI2 x64 with Contempt = 15.
This is the strongest SF and the 10 Elo more I wrote before and maybe 5 Elo more for the fast ASM = 3.235 max. is possible.

I think after all I saw that the final result from Komodo 10.2 will be around 3.210, ASM maybe 3.235 ... the different will be around 25 Elo ... think so.

Best
Frank

PS: If in th next 8 days a newer ASM version available I will used this one.
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Re: After round 46/50 (92%) = 3202.65 Elo, +6.67 (Nr.02)

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

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  FCP Rating List (during a LIVE Test-Run)
  ----------------------------------------

  Date           : November 05th, 2016 (21:45)
  Games          : 61.054
  Version        : 4.40 Beta 3
  Conditions     : http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conditions.htm

  Generated with : Ordo 1.2.6 x64 (Ratings for chess and other games)
  https://sites.google.com/site/gaviotachessengine/ordo
  by Miguel A. Ballicora (Argentina)


  **************************************************
  Still running after round  46/50     =  92%
  Komodo 10.2 x64                      =  + 6.67 Elo


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3202.65   2254    86.5  1669   560    25  1949.0   24.8  15.12  2846.12  10.47   49.0
   2 Komodo 10 x64                    :  3195.98   2450    86.1  1802   614    34  2109.0   25.1  14.47  2845.45  10.49   49.0
  ****************************************************************************************************************************


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 SF 18Sep2016 BMI2 x64 C10        :  3217.62   2446    87.5  1846   587    13  2139.5   24.0  14.72  2845.23  10.47   49.0
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3202.65   2254    86.5  1669   560    25  1949.0   24.8  15.12  2846.12  10.47   49.0
   3 Houdini 4 STD B x64              :  3087.98   2446    77.6  1510   775   161  1897.5   31.7  12.43  2847.88  10.52   49.0
   4 Fire 4 x64                       :  3036.03   2446    72.5  1297   952   197  1773.0   38.9  11.54  2848.95  10.54   49.0
   5 GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64           :  3029.59   2446    71.8  1259   995   192  1756.5   40.7  11.37  2849.08  10.54   49.0
   6 Andscacs 0.872 BMI2 x64          :  3001.67   2446    68.8  1173  1019   254  1682.5   41.7  10.73  2849.65  10.56   49.0
   7 Equinox 3.30 x64                 :  2996.92   2446    68.3  1117  1105   224  1669.5   45.2  10.89  2849.75  10.55   49.0
   8 Fizbo 1.8 BMI2 x64               :  2992.02   2446    67.7  1137  1038   271  1656.0   42.4  10.32  2849.85  10.56   49.0
   9 Critter 1.6a x64                 :  2980.90   2446    66.4  1092  1066   288  1625.0   43.6  10.85  2850.07  10.55   49.0
  10 Fritz 15 x64                     :  2979.86   2446    66.3  1083  1078   285  1622.0   44.1  10.49  2850.09  10.56   49.0
  11 Nirvanachess 2.3 POP x64         :  2962.57   2446    64.3   980  1185   281  1572.5   48.4  10.64  2850.45  10.56   49.0
  12 Hannibal 1.7 x64                 :  2957.76   2446    63.7  1016  1085   345  1558.5   44.4  10.59  2850.55  10.56   49.0
  13 Chiron 3 x64                     :  2947.88   2446    62.5   964  1131   351  1529.5   46.2  10.38  2850.75  10.56   49.0
  14 Protector 1.9.0 x64              :  2933.13   2446    60.7   919  1133   394  1485.5   46.3  10.46  2851.05  10.56   49.0
  15 Texel 1.06 x64                   :  2931.30   2446    60.5   943  1074   429  1480.0   43.9  10.10  2851.09  10.57   49.0
  16 iCE 3.0 v658 POP x64             :  2923.04   2446    59.5   917  1076   453  1455.0   44.0  10.16  2851.26  10.57   49.0
  17 Booot 6.0.2 POP x64              :  2901.86   2446    56.8   798  1184   464  1390.0   48.4  10.32  2851.69  10.56   49.0
  18 Naum 4.6 x64                     :  2885.00   2446    54.7   759  1157   530  1337.5   47.3  10.08  2852.03  10.57   49.0
  19 SmarThink 1.96 SSE4 x64          :  2883.72   2446    54.5   834   999   613  1333.5   40.8   9.77  2852.06  10.58   49.0
  20 Hakkapeliitta TCEC v2 x64        :  2879.89   2446    54.0   801  1041   604  1321.5   42.6  10.08  2852.14  10.57   49.0
  21 Vajolet2 2.2 POP x64             :  2838.91   2446    48.7   637  1110   699  1192.0   45.4  10.08  2852.98  10.57   49.0
  22 Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64             :  2833.71   2446    48.1   624  1103   719  1175.5   45.1   9.74  2853.08  10.58   49.0
  23 Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32               :  2823.93   2446    46.8   611  1067   768  1144.5   43.6   9.42  2853.28  10.58   49.0
  24 Pedone 1.4.1 BMI2 x64            :  2816.03   2446    45.8   522  1195   729  1119.5   48.9  10.09  2853.44  10.57   49.0
  25 Cheng 4.39 x64                   :  2804.79   2446    44.3   544  1080   822  1084.0   44.2  10.10  2853.67  10.57   49.0
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  26 Sjeng c't 2010 w32               :  2804.47   2446    44.3   567  1032   847  1083.0   42.2  10.53  2853.68  10.56   49.0
  27 Arasan 19.1 POP x64              :  2801.14   2446    43.8   535  1075   836  1072.5   43.9  10.26  2853.75  10.57   49.0
  28 Shredder 12 x64                  :  2799.87   2446    43.7   509  1119   818  1068.5   45.7  10.36  2853.77  10.56   49.0
  29 Junior 13.3.00 x64               :  2794.45   2446    43.0   537  1029   880  1051.5   42.1  10.10  2853.88  10.57   49.0
  30 Nemorino 1.02 POP x64            :  2793.34   2446    42.8   494  1108   844  1048.0   45.3  10.17  2853.91  10.57   49.0
  31 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32             :  2786.01   2446    41.9   495  1060   891  1025.0   43.3   9.73  2854.06  10.58   49.0
  32 Wasp 1.25 BMI2 x64               :  2784.86   2446    41.8   465  1113   868  1021.5   45.5  10.20  2854.08  10.57   49.0
  33 Quazar 0.4 x64                   :  2774.73   2446    40.5   466  1048   932   990.0   42.8  10.24  2854.29  10.57   49.0
  34 Rodent II 0.9.64 x64             :  2773.60   2446    40.3   460  1053   933   986.5   43.0  10.13  2854.31  10.57   49.0
  35 DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64             :  2772.63   2446    40.2   497   973   976   983.5   39.8   9.86  2854.33  10.57   49.0
  36 Bobcat 7.6 x64                   :  2767.44   2446    39.6   424  1087   935   967.5   44.4  10.13  2854.44  10.57   49.0
  37 Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64    :  2763.70   2446    39.1   411  1090   945   956.0   44.6  10.25  2854.51  10.57   49.0
  38 Zappa Mexico II x64              :  2756.01   2446    38.1   382  1101   963   932.5   45.0   9.73  2854.67  10.58   49.0
  39 Spark 1.0 x64                    :  2754.86   2446    38.0   421  1016  1009   929.0   41.5  10.75  2854.69  10.55   49.0
  40 TogaII 280513 Intel w32          :  2739.95   2446    36.1   392   984  1070   884.0   40.2  10.21  2855.00  10.57   49.0
  41 Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64              :  2737.61   2446    35.9   413   928  1105   877.0   37.9  10.85  2855.05  10.55   49.0
  42 Dirty 03NOV2015 POP x64          :  2729.22   2446    34.8   360   984  1102   852.0   40.2  10.16  2855.22  10.57   49.0
  43 Crafty 25.0.1 JA POP x64         :  2728.17   2446    34.7   365   968  1113   849.0   39.6  10.58  2855.24  10.56   49.0
  44 EXchess 7.92b x64                :  2727.67   2446    34.6   323  1049  1074   847.5   42.9  10.51  2855.25  10.56   49.0
  45 Laser 1.2 POP x64                :  2717.76   2446    33.5   334   969  1143   818.5   39.6  10.22  2855.45  10.57   49.0
  46 Atlas 3.80 x64                   :  2716.38   2446    33.3   333   963  1150   814.5   39.4  10.64  2855.48  10.56   49.0
  47 DisasterArea 1.65 POP x64        :  2715.69   2446    33.2   299  1027  1120   812.5   42.0  10.41  2855.49  10.56   49.0
  48 Murka 3 x64                      :  2710.84   2446    32.6   283  1031  1132   798.5   42.2  10.43  2855.59  10.56   49.0
  49 Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64           :  2702.41   2446    31.7   298   953  1195   774.5   39.0  10.58  2855.77  10.56   49.0
  50 Octochess r5506 DC x64           :  2661.12   2446    27.0   219   885  1342   661.5   36.2  10.82  2856.61  10.55   49.0
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  White advantage = 33.70 +/- 1.08
  Draw rate (equal opponents) = 51.89 % +/- 0.23
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Final = 3204.46 Elo, +8.48 (Nr.02)

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Comparsion will be follow in the next hours ...

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  FCP Rating List (during a LIVE Test-Run)
  ----------------------------------------

  Date           : November 06th, 2016 (09:00)
  Games          : 61.250
  Version        : 4.40
  Conditions     : http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conditions.htm

  Generated with : Ordo 1.2.6 x64 (Ratings for chess and other games)
  https://sites.google.com/site/gaviotachessengine/ordo
  by Miguel A. Ballicora (Argentina)


  *************************************************
  Final results after round  50/50    =  100%
  Komodo 10.2 x64 C15                 =  + 8.48 Elo


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3204.46   2450    86.6  1818   607    25  2121.5   24.8  14.26  2845.96  10.48   49.0
   2 Komodo 10 x64                    :  3195.98   2450    86.1  1802   614    34  2109.0   25.1  14.47  2845.45  10.49   49.0
  ****************************************************************************************************************************


   # Player                           :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 SF 18Sep2016 BMI2 x64 C10        :  3217.14   2450    87.4  1846   590    14  2141.0   24.1  14.61  2845.70  10.47   49.0
   2 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15              :  3204.46   2450    86.6  1818   607    25  2121.5   24.8  14.26  2845.96  10.48   49.0
   3 Houdini 4 STD B x64              :  3087.69   2450    77.5  1510   777   163  1898.5   31.7  11.90  2848.34  10.52   49.0
   4 Fire 4 x64                       :  3035.47   2450    72.4  1297   952   201  1773.0   38.9  10.94  2849.41  10.54   49.0
   5 GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64           :  3029.43   2450    71.7  1259   997   194  1757.5   40.7  10.83  2849.53  10.55   49.0
   6 Andscacs 0.872 BMI2 x64          :  3001.37   2450    68.7  1173  1020   257  1683.0   41.6  11.09  2850.10  10.54   49.0
   7 Equinox 3.30 x64                 :  2996.62   2450    68.2  1117  1106   227  1670.0   45.1  10.98  2850.20  10.54   49.0
   8 Fizbo 1.8 BMI2 x64               :  2991.73   2450    67.6  1137  1039   274  1656.5   42.4  10.77  2850.30  10.55   49.0
   9 Critter 1.6a x64                 :  2980.99   2450    66.4  1092  1069   289  1626.5   43.6  10.34  2850.52  10.56   49.0
  10 Fritz 15 x64                     :  2979.60   2450    66.2  1083  1079   288  1622.5   44.0  10.79  2850.55  10.55   49.0
  11 Nirvanachess 2.3 POP x64         :  2962.50   2450    64.2   980  1187   283  1573.5   48.4  10.75  2850.90  10.55   49.0
  12 Hannibal 1.7 x64                 :  2957.52   2450    63.6  1016  1086   348  1559.0   44.3  10.29  2851.00  10.56   49.0
  13 Chiron 3 x64                     :  2947.83   2450    62.5   964  1133   353  1530.5   46.2  10.23  2851.20  10.56   49.0
  14 Protector 1.9.0 x64              :  2933.25   2450    60.7   919  1136   395  1487.0   46.4  10.31  2851.49  10.56   49.0
  15 Texel 1.06 x64                   :  2930.93   2450    60.4   943  1074   433  1480.0   43.8  10.36  2851.54  10.56   49.0
  16 iCE 3.0 v658 POP x64             :  2923.18   2450    59.4   917  1079   454  1456.5   44.0  10.56  2851.70  10.55   49.0
  17 Booot 6.0.2 POP x64              :  2901.69   2450    56.8   798  1185   467  1390.5   48.4  10.14  2852.14  10.56   49.0
  18 Naum 4.6 x64                     :  2885.00   2450    54.6   759  1159   532  1338.5   47.3   9.84  2852.48  10.57   49.0
  19 SmarThink 1.96 SSE4 x64          :  2883.56   2450    54.4   834  1000   616  1334.0   40.8  10.47  2852.51  10.55   49.0
  20 Hakkapeliitta TCEC v2 x64        :  2879.74   2450    54.0   801  1042   607  1322.0   42.5  10.47  2852.59  10.55   49.0
  21 Vajolet2 2.2 POP x64             :  2838.79   2450    48.7   637  1111   702  1192.5   45.3   9.94  2853.42  10.56   49.0
  22 Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64             :  2833.43   2450    48.0   624  1103   723  1175.5   45.0   9.80  2853.53  10.57   49.0
  23 Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32               :  2823.82   2450    46.7   611  1068   771  1145.0   43.6  10.11  2853.73  10.56   49.0
  24 Pedone 1.4.1 BMI2 x64            :  2816.08   2450    45.7   522  1197   731  1120.5   48.9  10.39  2853.89  10.56   49.0
  25 Cheng 4.39 x64                   :  2804.69   2450    44.3   544  1081   825  1084.5   44.1  10.11  2854.12  10.56   49.0
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  26 Sjeng c't 2010 w32               :  2804.37   2450    44.2   567  1033   850  1083.5   42.2  10.20  2854.12  10.56   49.0
  27 Arasan 19.1 POP x64              :  2800.88   2450    43.8   535  1075   840  1072.5   43.9   9.93  2854.20  10.56   49.0
  28 Shredder 12 x64                  :  2799.61   2450    43.6   509  1119   822  1068.5   45.7   9.88  2854.22  10.57   49.0
  29 Junior 13.3.00 x64               :  2794.20   2450    42.9   537  1029   884  1051.5   42.0  10.29  2854.33  10.56   49.0
  30 Nemorino 1.02 POP x64            :  2793.24   2450    42.8   494  1109   847  1048.5   45.3   9.57  2854.35  10.57   49.0
  31 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32             :  2785.76   2450    41.8   495  1060   895  1025.0   43.3  10.28  2854.50  10.56   49.0
  32 Wasp 1.25 BMI2 x64               :  2784.61   2450    41.7   465  1113   872  1021.5   45.4  10.27  2854.53  10.56   49.0
  33 Quazar 0.4 x64                   :  2774.64   2450    40.4   466  1049   935   990.5   42.8  10.13  2854.73  10.56   49.0
  34 Rodent II 0.9.64 x64             :  2773.35   2450    40.3   460  1053   937   986.5   43.0  10.19  2854.76  10.56   49.0
  35 DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64             :  2772.70   2450    40.2   497   975   978   984.5   39.8  10.70  2854.77  10.55   49.0
  36 Bobcat 7.6 x64                   :  2767.20   2450    39.5   424  1087   939   967.5   44.4  10.04  2854.88  10.56   49.0
  37 Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64    :  2763.46   2450    39.0   411  1090   949   956.0   44.5   9.64  2854.96  10.57   49.0
  38 Zappa Mexico II x64              :  2755.77   2450    38.1   382  1101   967   932.5   44.9   9.94  2855.12  10.56   49.0
  39 Spark 1.0 x64                    :  2754.79   2450    37.9   421  1017  1012   929.5   41.5  10.20  2855.14  10.56   49.0
  40 TogaII 280513 Intel w32          :  2740.06   2450    36.1   392   986  1072   885.0   40.2  10.42  2855.44  10.55   49.0
  41 Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64              :  2737.55   2450    35.8   413   929  1108   877.5   37.9  10.38  2855.49  10.56   49.0
  42 Dirty 03NOV2015 POP x64          :  2729.00   2450    34.8   360   984  1106   852.0   40.2  10.27  2855.66  10.56   49.0
  43 Crafty 25.0.1 JA POP x64         :  2727.95   2450    34.7   365   968  1117   849.0   39.5  10.15  2855.68  10.56   49.0
  44 EXchess 7.92b x64                :  2727.44   2450    34.6   323  1049  1078   847.5   42.8  10.77  2855.69  10.55   49.0
  45 Laser 1.2 POP x64                :  2717.53   2450    33.4   334   969  1147   818.5   39.6  10.86  2855.90  10.55   49.0
  46 Atlas 3.80 x64                   :  2716.16   2450    33.2   333   963  1154   814.5   39.3  10.76  2855.92  10.55   49.0
  47 DisasterArea 1.65 POP x64        :  2715.47   2450    33.2   299  1027  1124   812.5   41.9  10.18  2855.94  10.56   49.0
  48 Murka 3 x64                      :  2710.79   2450    32.6   283  1032  1135   799.0   42.1  10.20  2856.03  10.56   49.0
  49 Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64           :  2702.36   2450    31.6   298   954  1198   775.0   38.9  10.77  2856.21  10.55   49.0
  50 Octochess r5506 DC x64           :  2661.10   2450    27.0   219   886  1345   662.0   36.2  11.33  2857.05  10.54   49.0
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  White advantage = 33.68 +/- 1.07
  Draw rate (equal opponents) = 51.90 % +/- 0.25
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Modern Times
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Re: Final = 3204.46 Elo, +8.48 (Nr.02)

Post by Modern Times »

Your work is superb Frank, I value it very highly. So you have +8 Elo from Komodo 10 to 10.2.

Perhaps as you say it is the volume of weaker opponents that holds Komodo back, although that would also hold back Stockfish as well.

What is the download link to your complete database ? The top one on your download page ?
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