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carldaman
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obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by carldaman »

I ran a no-book 2-game match, pitting Mediocre 0.5 (by Jonatan Pettersson, Sweden) against Magnum (by Eric Stock, Canada) 4.0, two java engines that are not exactly household names, even among hardcore computer chess buffs. To my delight, the games were very entertaining, and total slugfests. The TC was 15m+10s inc. Enjoy! :)

[pgn]
[Event "15m10s"]
[Date "2017.03.14"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mediocre_v0.5"]
[Black "Magnum 4.0"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2325"]
[BlackElo "2425"]
[PlyCount "50"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

1. Nc3 {[%eval 10,14] [%emt 0:00:32]} d5 {[%eval -25,15] [%emt 0:00:27]} 2. Nf3
{[%eval 10,14] [%emt 0:00:31]} Nc6 {[%eval -20,15] [%emt 0:00:31]} 3. d4 {
[%eval 12,13] [%emt 0:00:31]} Bf5 {[%eval -12,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} 4. e3 {
[%eval 27,14] [%emt 0:00:29]} Nf6 {[%eval -18,14] [%emt 0:00:33]} 5. Bd3 {
[%eval 28,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} Ne4 {[%eval -21,14] [%emt 0:00:25]} 6. O-O {
[%eval 39,14] [%emt 0:00:29]} e6 {[%eval -3,15] [%emt 0:00:27]} 7. Bxe4 {
[%eval 45,15] [%emt 0:00:29]} dxe4 {[%eval 13,16] [%emt 0:00:32]} 8. Nd2 {
[%eval 53,14] [%emt 0:00:28]} Qh4 {[%eval 16,14] [%emt 0:00:31]} 9. Qe2 {
[%eval 58,13] [%emt 0:00:28]} O-O-O {[%eval -2,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} 10. Ndxe4 {
[%eval 59,14] [%emt 0:00:26]} e5 {[%eval -33,14] [%emt 0:00:28]} 11. dxe5 {
[%eval 83,13] [%emt 0:00:27]} Nxe5 {[%eval -39,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} 12. f4 {
[%eval 72,14] [%emt 0:00:27]} Nc6 {[%eval -55,14] [%emt 0:00:24]} 13. Ng5 {
[%eval 92,14] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bg6 {[%eval -68,14] [%emt 0:00:22]} 14. g3 {
[%eval 95,13] [%emt 0:00:26]} Qh6 {[%eval -75,13] [%emt 0:00:29]} 15. e4 {
[%eval 79,13] [%emt 0:00:25]} Nd4 {[%eval -89,13] [%emt 0:00:28]} 16. Qf2 {
[%eval 155,13] [%emt 0:00:25]} Qh5 {[%eval -36,13] [%emt 0:00:28]} 17. f5 {
[%eval 126,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} h6 {[%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:00:21]} 18. fxg6 {
[%eval 100,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} hxg5 {[%eval 122,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} 19. gxf7 {
[%eval 43,12] [%emt 0:00:24]} Bc5 {[%eval 778,15] [%emt 0:00:26]} 20. Be3 {
[%eval -336,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} Nf3+ {[%eval 812,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} 21. Kg2 {
[%eval -519,15] [%emt 0:00:23]} Bxe3 {[%eval 829,14] [%emt 0:00:21]} 22. Qxe3 {
[%eval -547,15] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qxh2+ {[%eval 872,14] [%emt 0:00:20]} 23. Kxf3
{[%eval -578,17] [%emt 0:00:22]} g4+ {[%eval 1017,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} 24. Kf4 {
[%eval -588,16] [%emt 0:00:22]} Qh6+ {[%eval 1246,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} 25. Kf5 {
[%eval -619,15] [%emt 0:00:22]} Qxe3 {[%eval 1292,13] [%emt 0:00:24] User Adjudication} 0-1
[/pgn]

Magnum really delivered a swift and hard puncher's blow to the head and White was quickly KO'd.

The second game was an epic, intense battle that swung back and forth, ending up as a hard-fought fortress draw. Neither participant deserved to lose such a game.

[pgn]
[Event "Tourn07j-15m10s"]
[Site "BILLY-PC"]
[Date "2017.03.14"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Magnum 4.0"]
[Black "Mediocre_v0.5"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D01"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[PlyCount "170"]
[EventDate "2017.??.??"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

1. d4 {[%eval 28,15] [%emt 0:00:34]} Nf6 {[%eval -8,14] [%emt 0:00:32]} 2. Nc3
{[%eval 22,14] [%emt 0:00:27]} d5 {[%eval -12,14] [%emt 0:00:31]} 3. Bf4 {
[%eval 14,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} c5 {[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:00:31]} 4. e3 {[%eval
22,13] [%emt 0:00:26]} cxd4 {[%eval -12,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} 5. Nb5 {[%eval 31,
13] [%emt 0:00:33]} Qa5+ {[%eval 62,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} 6. b4 {[%eval 0,15]
[%emt 0:00:32]} Qxb4+ {[%eval 72,15] [%emt 0:00:28]} 7. c3 {[%eval 0,16] [%emt
0:00:29]} Qa5 {[%eval 72,14] [%emt 0:00:29]} 8. Nc7+ {[%eval 123,14] [%emt 0:
00:24]} Kd8 {[%eval 138,13] [%emt 0:00:28]} 9. Qb3 {[%eval 104,14] [%emt 0:00:
24]} Nh5 {[%eval 90,13] [%emt 0:00:28]} 10. Nxa8 {[%eval 160,14] [%emt 0:00:30]
} Nxf4 {[%eval 101,14] [%emt 0:00:27]} 11. exf4 {[%eval 165,15] [%emt 0:00:23]}
dxc3 {[%eval 101,12] [%emt 0:00:27]} 12. Nf3 {[%eval 170,13] [%emt 0:00:23]} e6
{[%eval 107,12] [%emt 0:00:27]} 13. Bb5 {[%eval 138,13] 68} Nd7 {[%eval 84,12]
[%emt 0:00:26]} 14. Bxd7 {[%eval 157,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} Bxd7 {[%eval 81,13]
[%emt 0:00:26]} 15. O-O {[%eval 143,15] 62} Bd6 {[%eval 93,14] [%emt 0:00:25]}
16. Qxb7 {[%eval 181,15] [%emt 0:00:23]} Bxf4 {[%eval 90,13] [%emt 0:00:25]}
17. g3 {[%eval 179,15] [%emt 0:00:56]} Bd6 {[%eval 74,14] [%emt 0:00:25]} 18.
Rfe1 {[%eval 137,14] [%emt 0:00:56]} Re8 {[%eval 76,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} 19.
Rac1 {[%eval 186,13] [%emt 0:00:17]} e5 {[%eval 54,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} 20. Ng5
{[%eval 121,13] [%emt 0:00:17]} f6 {[%eval 73,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} 21. Nf7+ {
[%eval 65,14] [%emt 0:00:17]} Ke7 {[%eval 77,16] [%emt 0:00:23]} 22. Nxd6 {
[%eval 75,13] [%emt 0:00:22]} Kxd6 {[%eval 82,16] [%emt 0:00:23]} 23. h4 {
[%eval 31,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} d4 {[%eval 171,13] [%emt 0:00:22]} 24. f4 {
[%eval -73,13] [%emt 0:00:51]} Rc8 {[%eval 213,13] [%emt 0:00:22]} 25. fxe5+ {
[%eval -205,13] [%emt 0:00:48]} fxe5 {[%eval 216,14] [%emt 0:00:22]} 26. Re4 {
[%eval -233,14] [%emt 0:00:43]} c2 {[%eval 265,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} 27. Re2 {
[%eval -276,15] [%emt 0:00:41]} d3 {[%eval 211,13] [%emt 0:00:21]} 28. Re3 {
[%eval -293,14] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qa3 {[%eval 276,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} 29. Kh2 {
[%eval -257,13] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bf5 {[%eval 276,13] [%emt 0:00:21]} 30. Qxg7 {
[%eval -283,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Qc3 {[%eval 255,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} 31. Qh6+ {
[%eval -321,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Be6 {[%eval 255,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} 32. Rf3 {
[%eval -284,13] [%emt 0:00:17]} Rxa8 {[%eval 247,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} 33. Qe3 {
[%eval -359,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} e4 {[%eval 293,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} 34. Rf4 {
[%eval -278,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} Bd5 {[%eval 297,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} 35. Rf5 {
[%eval -295,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rd8 {[%eval 297,11] [%emt 0:00:19]} 36. Rcf1 {
[%eval -301,10] [%emt 0:00:16]} Be6 {[%eval 300,10] [%emt 0:00:19]} 37. Qf4+ {
[%eval -192,13] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kd7 {[%eval 293,11] [%emt 0:00:19]} 38. Rh5 {
[%eval -222,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rh8 {[%eval 220,11] [%emt 0:00:18]} 39. Qe3 {
[%eval -120,12] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qc4 {[%eval 132,11] [%emt 0:00:18]} 40. Qxa7+ {
[%eval -15,12] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kc6 {[%eval 61,13] [%emt 0:00:18]} 41. Rh6 {
[%eval 64,12] [%emt 0:00:14]} Rd8 {[%eval 90,13] [%emt 0:00:17]} 42. Rf7 {
[%eval 49,12] [%emt 0:00:37]} c1=Q {[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:00:18]} 43. Rc7+ {
[%eval 46,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} Kd6 {[%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:00:17]} 44. Qb6+ {
[%eval 50,13] [%emt 0:00:11]} Ke5 {[%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:00:17]} 45. Rh5+ {
[%eval 41,13] [%emt 0:00:11]} Kf6 {[%eval -9,16] [%emt 0:00:17]} 46. Qf2+ {
[%eval 29,14] [%emt 0:00:11]} Kg6 {[%eval -9,16] [%emt 0:00:17]} 47. Rxc4 {
[%eval 108,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rf8 {[%eval -28,16] [%emt 0:00:17]} 48. Qxf8 {
[%eval 110,14] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qd2+ {[%eval -39,15] [%emt 0:00:16]} 49. Kh1 {
[%eval 124,15] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qe1+ {[%eval -39,15] [%emt 0:00:16]} 50. Kg2 {
[%eval 20,17] [%emt 0:00:11]} Qe2+ {[%eval -75,16] [%emt 0:00:16]} 51. Qf2 {
[%eval 34,17] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qxf2+ {[%eval -76,17] [%emt 0:00:16]} 52. Kxf2 {
[%eval 18,18] [%emt 0:00:14]} Bxc4 {[%eval -37,19] [%emt 0:00:16]} 53. Rg5+ {
[%eval 182,18] [%emt 0:00:12]} Kf6 {[%eval -72,20] [%emt 0:00:16]} 54. Ke3 {
[%eval 153,19] [%emt 0:00:11]} Bxa2 {[%eval -97,20] [%emt 0:00:15]} 55. Rg4 {
[%eval 146,19] [%emt 0:00:12]} Bd5 {[%eval -128,20] [%emt 0:00:15]} 56. h5 {
[%eval 166,19] [%emt 0:00:11]} Bc6 {[%eval -95,22] [%emt 0:00:15]} 57. h6 {
[%eval 160,16] [%emt 0:00:14]} Be8 {[%eval -117,24] [%emt 0:00:15]} 58. Rxe4 {
[%eval 152,22] [%emt 0:00:12]} Bg6 {[%eval -148,27] [%emt 0:00:15]} 59. Rg4 {
[%eval 152,21] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kf5 {[%eval -119,28] [%emt 0:00:15]} 60. Rf4+ {
[%eval 129,24] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kg5 {[%eval -119,29] [%emt 0:00:15]} 61. Rh4 {
[%eval 133,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bf5 {[%eval -119,29] [%emt 0:00:15]} 62. Kd2 {
[%eval 130,21] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bg6 {[%eval -119,32] [%emt 0:00:14]} 63. Kc3 {
[%eval 137,20] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bf5 {[%eval -119,28] [%emt 0:00:14]} 64. Kc4 {
[%eval 125,21] [%emt 0:00:10]} Bg6 {[%eval -119,27] [%emt 0:00:14]} 65. Kb3 {
[%eval 132,20] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bf5 {[%eval -119,27] [%emt 0:00:14]} 66. Kc3 {
[%eval 92,21] [%emt 0:00:10]} Bg6 {[%eval -119,31] [%emt 0:00:14]} 67. Kd2 {
[%eval 87,21] [%emt 0:00:11]} Bf5 {[%eval -119,30] [%emt 0:00:12]} 68. Rh1 {
[%eval 95,21] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bg6 {[%eval -119,30] [%emt 0:00:14]} 69. Ke1 {
[%eval 91,21] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kg4 {[%eval -119,29] [%emt 0:00:14]} 70. Kf2 {
[%eval 95,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bf7 {[%eval -119,27] [%emt 0:00:14]} 71. Rh4+ {
[%eval 106,22] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kg5 {[%eval -119,27] [%emt 0:00:13]} 72. Ke3 {
[%eval 73,22] [%emt 0:00:30]} Bg6 {[%eval -119,29] [%emt 0:00:13]} 73. Rh2 {
[%eval 72,21] [%emt 0:00:11]} Bf5 {[%eval -119,28] [%emt 0:00:13]} 74. g4 {
[%eval 93,19] [%emt 0:00:11]} Bg6 {[%eval -63,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} 75. Kf3 {
[%eval 69,18] [%emt 0:00:11]} Bf7 {[%eval -69,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} 76. Rb2 {
[%eval 63,19] [%emt 0:00:11]} Kxh6 {[%eval -69,22] [%emt 0:00:12]} 77. Kf4 {
[%eval 67,19] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kg7 {[%eval -69,21] [%emt 0:00:13]} 78. Kg5 {
[%eval 63,18] [%emt 0:00:09]} Bg6 {[%eval -71,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} 79. Rb7+ {
[%eval 62,18] [%emt 0:00:11]} Kf8 {[%eval -70,22] [%emt 0:00:13]} 80. Kf4 {
[%eval 64,18] [%emt 0:00:10]} Ke8 {[%eval -69,22] [%emt 0:00:12]} 81. Rb6 {
[%eval 62,19] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kd7 {[%eval -59,25] [%emt 0:00:13]} 82. Ke3 {
[%eval 62,19] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kc7 {[%eval -59,28] [%emt 0:00:12]} 83. Re6 {
[%eval 62,18] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kd7 {[%eval -59,28] [%emt 0:00:11]} 84. Ra6 {
[%eval 56,19] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kc7 {[%eval -59,28] [%emt 0:00:12]} 85. Ra5 {
[%eval 56,19] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kd7 {[%eval -57,24] [%emt 0:00:12] User
Adjudication} 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

I tip my hat to the two contestants,
CL :o
adams161
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by adams161 »

I was able to download Magnum 4.0 at its project page, https://code.google.com/archive/p/magnumchess/ ,(It's GPL) and extract the zip which extracted to folder MagnumChess_v4.00 then take the MagnumChess.jar out of the /dist sub folder and load it into Lantern Chess, http://www.lanternchess.com , with Options menu / Load UCI Engine and load the jar which i placed in the Lantern folder.

It seems to get similar depth to Mediocre Chess V0.5 in my limited analysis so far. but it might be a little positionally smarter. Testing a book move position in the Petrov Defense, Magnum found the #2 book move choice (using lantern's opening book) were Mediocre found a much less common choice that almost always drew. Have to play with it some more and compare the two. I"m particularly interested in how natural the play is i.e. can it find book moves seems to be one test.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ does not seem to have a rating for Magnum 4.0. I haven't been able to find a rating so far. I might be interested in including a second Java engine with Lantern as long as license is good to use which both Magnum 4.0 and Mediocre v0.5 are.
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by adams161 »

i tried cuckoo112.jar and it also looks very promising. it gets about 5 more plays depth than mediocre and magnum. Its rating appears to be 2576.

I might want to have one main engine to open on the Lantern options menu then below it a sub menu of 'other engines' and include some other java engines.
carldaman
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by carldaman »

adams161 wrote:I was able to download Magnum 4.0 at its project page, https://code.google.com/archive/p/magnumchess/ ,(It's GPL) and extract the zip which extracted to folder MagnumChess_v4.00 then take the MagnumChess.jar out of the /dist sub folder and load it into Lantern Chess, http://www.lanternchess.com , with Options menu / Load UCI Engine and load the jar which i placed in the Lantern folder.

It seems to get similar depth to Mediocre Chess V0.5 in my limited analysis so far. but it might be a little positionally smarter. Testing a book move position in the Petrov Defense, Magnum found the #2 book move choice (using lantern's opening book) were Mediocre found a much less common choice that almost always drew. Have to play with it some more and compare the two. I"m particularly interested in how natural the play is i.e. can it find book moves seems to be one test.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ does not seem to have a rating for Magnum 4.0. I haven't been able to find a rating so far. I might be interested in including a second Java engine with Lantern as long as license is good to use which both Magnum 4.0 and Mediocre v0.5 are.
My strength estimate for Magnum is about 100 Elo points above Mediocre_v0.5.
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by BrendanJNorman »

carldaman wrote:
adams161 wrote:I was able to download Magnum 4.0 at its project page, https://code.google.com/archive/p/magnumchess/ ,(It's GPL) and extract the zip which extracted to folder MagnumChess_v4.00 then take the MagnumChess.jar out of the /dist sub folder and load it into Lantern Chess, http://www.lanternchess.com , with Options menu / Load UCI Engine and load the jar which i placed in the Lantern folder.

It seems to get similar depth to Mediocre Chess V0.5 in my limited analysis so far. but it might be a little positionally smarter. Testing a book move position in the Petrov Defense, Magnum found the #2 book move choice (using lantern's opening book) were Mediocre found a much less common choice that almost always drew. Have to play with it some more and compare the two. I"m particularly interested in how natural the play is i.e. can it find book moves seems to be one test.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ does not seem to have a rating for Magnum 4.0. I haven't been able to find a rating so far. I might be interested in including a second Java engine with Lantern as long as license is good to use which both Magnum 4.0 and Mediocre v0.5 are.
My strength estimate for Magnum is about 100 Elo points above Mediocre_v0.5.
Any luck getting Magnum to use an opening book? It seems to ignore the book in Arena. :cry:
carldaman
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by carldaman »

BrendanJNorman wrote:
carldaman wrote:
adams161 wrote:I was able to download Magnum 4.0 at its project page, https://code.google.com/archive/p/magnumchess/ ,(It's GPL) and extract the zip which extracted to folder MagnumChess_v4.00 then take the MagnumChess.jar out of the /dist sub folder and load it into Lantern Chess, http://www.lanternchess.com , with Options menu / Load UCI Engine and load the jar which i placed in the Lantern folder.

It seems to get similar depth to Mediocre Chess V0.5 in my limited analysis so far. but it might be a little positionally smarter. Testing a book move position in the Petrov Defense, Magnum found the #2 book move choice (using lantern's opening book) were Mediocre found a much less common choice that almost always drew. Have to play with it some more and compare the two. I"m particularly interested in how natural the play is i.e. can it find book moves seems to be one test.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ does not seem to have a rating for Magnum 4.0. I haven't been able to find a rating so far. I might be interested in including a second Java engine with Lantern as long as license is good to use which both Magnum 4.0 and Mediocre v0.5 are.
My strength estimate for Magnum is about 100 Elo points above Mediocre_v0.5.
Any luck getting Magnum to use an opening book? It seems to ignore the book in Arena. :cry:
Yes, it can use an Arena abk book. You have to first go under Book>Manage> and check the "Use Arena engine books" box. Then choose a specific book from Magnum's own Books tab (under Engine>Manage). It works for me. :)
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by BrendanJNorman »

carldaman wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:
carldaman wrote:
adams161 wrote:I was able to download Magnum 4.0 at its project page, https://code.google.com/archive/p/magnumchess/ ,(It's GPL) and extract the zip which extracted to folder MagnumChess_v4.00 then take the MagnumChess.jar out of the /dist sub folder and load it into Lantern Chess, http://www.lanternchess.com , with Options menu / Load UCI Engine and load the jar which i placed in the Lantern folder.

It seems to get similar depth to Mediocre Chess V0.5 in my limited analysis so far. but it might be a little positionally smarter. Testing a book move position in the Petrov Defense, Magnum found the #2 book move choice (using lantern's opening book) were Mediocre found a much less common choice that almost always drew. Have to play with it some more and compare the two. I"m particularly interested in how natural the play is i.e. can it find book moves seems to be one test.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ does not seem to have a rating for Magnum 4.0. I haven't been able to find a rating so far. I might be interested in including a second Java engine with Lantern as long as license is good to use which both Magnum 4.0 and Mediocre v0.5 are.
My strength estimate for Magnum is about 100 Elo points above Mediocre_v0.5.
Any luck getting Magnum to use an opening book? It seems to ignore the book in Arena. :cry:
Yes, it can use an Arena abk book. You have to first go under Book>Manage> and check the "Use Arena engine books" box. Then choose a specific book from Magnum's own Books tab (under Engine>Manage). It works for me. :)
Thanks Carl!

I just bought Komodo 10.4 today and still haven't made any Rodent III personalities and like this Magnum engine as well and...Geeee...

How am I gonna get any work done? :D
carldaman
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by carldaman »

BrendanJNorman wrote:
carldaman wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:
carldaman wrote:
adams161 wrote:I was able to download Magnum 4.0 at its project page, https://code.google.com/archive/p/magnumchess/ ,(It's GPL) and extract the zip which extracted to folder MagnumChess_v4.00 then take the MagnumChess.jar out of the /dist sub folder and load it into Lantern Chess, http://www.lanternchess.com , with Options menu / Load UCI Engine and load the jar which i placed in the Lantern folder.

It seems to get similar depth to Mediocre Chess V0.5 in my limited analysis so far. but it might be a little positionally smarter. Testing a book move position in the Petrov Defense, Magnum found the #2 book move choice (using lantern's opening book) were Mediocre found a much less common choice that almost always drew. Have to play with it some more and compare the two. I"m particularly interested in how natural the play is i.e. can it find book moves seems to be one test.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ does not seem to have a rating for Magnum 4.0. I haven't been able to find a rating so far. I might be interested in including a second Java engine with Lantern as long as license is good to use which both Magnum 4.0 and Mediocre v0.5 are.
My strength estimate for Magnum is about 100 Elo points above Mediocre_v0.5.
Any luck getting Magnum to use an opening book? It seems to ignore the book in Arena. :cry:
Yes, it can use an Arena abk book. You have to first go under Book>Manage> and check the "Use Arena engine books" box. Then choose a specific book from Magnum's own Books tab (under Engine>Manage). It works for me. :)
Thanks Carl!

I just bought Komodo 10.4 today and still haven't made any Rodent III personalities and like this Magnum engine as well and...Geeee...

How am I gonna get any work done? :D
Good problems to have, Brendan! :roll:

Cheers,
CL 8-)
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Re: obscure java engines duking it out on a high level :)

Post by jswaff »

I have a Winboard based Java engine you might check out.. chess4j. It's probably a good bit weaker than those but it is very stable and includes a small but fairly high quality opening book.

http://chess4j.sourceforge.net/

It's released under the MIT license.

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James